HITMAN™ 2

HITMAN™ 2

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FoutBallon Mar 26, 2019 @ 9:07am
DirectX 12 vs 11 on GTX 960 2GB
Hi,
Using the Miami & Mumbai benchmarking maps, here's the results
- In-game settings are a mix of medium, low and off. https://imgur.com/NS2twR1
- GTX 960 2GB not overclocked, Driver 419.35.
- AMD FX 8320 not overclocked.
- 16GB Dual Channel RAM at 1600 MHz.
- No open background applications besides Windows Defender & FRAPS.
- 3 consecutive 170 second runs were done on each map. There was only a ±1 FPS difference between each run.

DirectX 11:
Miami
Average: 54 FPS
1%: 29 FPS
0.1%: 15 FPS

Mumbai
Average: 54 FPS
1%: 27 FPS
0.1%: 18 FPS

Direct X 12:
Miami
Average: 40 FPS
1%: 24 FPS
0.1%: 12 FPS

Mumbai
Average: 37 FPS
1%: 27 FPS
0.1%: 12 FPS

Average FPS performance is a -26% change in Miami and a -31.5% change in Mumbai.

Update: To conclude, I'm no programming expert and I don't know how IOI implemented DirectX 12 into the game but if you're deciding between Direct3D 11 & 12, Nvidia Pascal/Turing and AMD Polaris graphic cards will likely get a greater benefit with the new API. As for older GPUs like mine, Direct3D 11 is a safe choice.
Last edited by FoutBallon; Mar 26, 2019 @ 4:36pm
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LagMan_PT Mar 26, 2019 @ 9:12am 
yeah it sucks so far for me as well, maybe it needs new drivers or something, its weird considering how good it worked in hitman 2016
Kunovega Mar 26, 2019 @ 11:47am 
Older cards were never great for dx12

I Love Emma Stone Mar 26, 2019 @ 12:39pm 
Game crashing on me with DX 12. I also have a 960.
Pellarome Mar 26, 2019 @ 1:04pm 
You should forget about DX12 if you have an Nvidia card older than Turing. They just don't properly support it at the hardware level. AMD had been ahead of Nvidia on that front (but it's equal now).
KING OF THE FROGS Mar 26, 2019 @ 1:49pm 
I seem to get a little more fps..but i got stutter lag now which i didn't have with 11. (1060 3GB) so can't say im too comfortable with 12 lol
Within Mar 26, 2019 @ 2:51pm 
Performance in this game in general is a joke anyways. The visuals look straight up dated in some areas, no excuse for such ♥♥♥♥♥♥ performance.
kth Mar 26, 2019 @ 2:55pm 
went from 40 fps to 100 fps after today's patch, 2080
randir14 Mar 26, 2019 @ 2:55pm 
Originally posted by LagMan_pt:
yeah it sucks so far for me as well, maybe it needs new drivers or something, its weird considering how good it worked in hitman 2016

It only worked well on AMD cards. Go look up some benchmarks for the first game, you'll see DX12 ran worse than DX11 for Nvidia.
Hardware Mar 26, 2019 @ 2:58pm 
Some examples with i7 9700K / RTX2080 / 16GB RAM

DX11 :

https://i.imgur.com/5MMXWHz.jpg 37fps -- Colorado
https://i.imgur.com/wzAWLpo.jpg 50fps -- Sapienza
https://i.imgur.com/kW07nE8.jpg 64fps -- Paris
https://i.imgur.com/K0UMnhC.jpg 52fps -- Marrakech

DX12 :

https://i.imgur.com/RqmL4uw.png 110fps -- Colorado
https://i.imgur.com/qaToXs5.png 98fps -- Sapienza
https://i.imgur.com/8GiOPLC.png 108fps -- Paris
https://i.imgur.com/f1TUr0M.png 100fps -- Marrakech

DX11 scenes pictures taken in November 2018. All are CPU limited with DX11. DX12 game implementation with Turing works really really great.
Last edited by Hardware; Mar 26, 2019 @ 2:58pm
randir14 Mar 26, 2019 @ 3:00pm 
Originally posted by Hardware:
Some examples with i7 9700K / RTX2080 / 16GB RAM

DX11 :

https://i.imgur.com/5MMXWHz.jpg 37fps -- Colorado
https://i.imgur.com/wzAWLpo.jpg 50fps -- Sapienza
https://i.imgur.com/kW07nE8.jpg 64fps -- Paris
https://i.imgur.com/K0UMnhC.jpg 52fps -- Marrakech

DX12 :

https://i.imgur.com/RqmL4uw.png 110fps -- Colorado
https://i.imgur.com/qaToXs5.png 98fps -- Sapienza
https://i.imgur.com/8GiOPLC.png 108fps -- Paris
https://i.imgur.com/f1TUr0M.png 100fps -- Marrakech

DX11 scenes pictures taken in November 2018. All are CPU limited with DX11. DX12 game implementation with Turing works really really great.

There's obviously something else going on, because simply switching to DX12 isn't going to give you 60 more fps.
Hardware Mar 26, 2019 @ 3:03pm 
Originally posted by randir14:
Originally posted by Hardware:
Some examples with i7 9700K / RTX2080 / 16GB RAM

DX11 :

https://i.imgur.com/5MMXWHz.jpg 37fps -- Colorado
https://i.imgur.com/wzAWLpo.jpg 50fps -- Sapienza
https://i.imgur.com/kW07nE8.jpg 64fps -- Paris
https://i.imgur.com/K0UMnhC.jpg 52fps -- Marrakech

DX12 :

https://i.imgur.com/RqmL4uw.png 110fps -- Colorado
https://i.imgur.com/qaToXs5.png 98fps -- Sapienza
https://i.imgur.com/8GiOPLC.png 108fps -- Paris
https://i.imgur.com/f1TUr0M.png 100fps -- Marrakech

DX11 scenes pictures taken in November 2018. All are CPU limited with DX11. DX12 game implementation with Turing works really really great.

There's obviously something else going on, because simply switching to DX12 isn't going to give you 60 more fps.

What are you talking about ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/HiTMAN/comments/b5p79r/some_hitman_2_directx12_benchmarks_massive_fps/

Multiple sources confirm that FPS gains are massive with Pascal/Turing and a good CPU, between 20fps and 55fps in multiple areas. Look at my GPU usage, it's day and night.

Same hardware, same settings, same resolution, only API change between november 2018 and march 2019. I wanted to show the progression that was made in 5 months by IOI.
Last edited by Hardware; Mar 26, 2019 @ 3:08pm
LagMan_PT Mar 26, 2019 @ 3:09pm 
your probably stressing out the gpu already, thats why it wont respond well to dx12, you need to have gpu headroom for proper dx12, i think thats why my gtx 1060 is breaking with dx12 here, im running on a ultrawide 1440p now as before in hitman 2016 i was using an old 1680x1050 monitor,uw1440p its quite a push for a gtx 1060, at 1680x1050 i had a good increase with dx12 but at 1440p my board is sweating. I did read something about this somewhere
Last edited by LagMan_PT; Mar 26, 2019 @ 3:13pm
randir14 Mar 26, 2019 @ 3:18pm 
Originally posted by Hardware:
Originally posted by randir14:

There's obviously something else going on, because simply switching to DX12 isn't going to give you 60 more fps.

What are you talking about ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/HiTMAN/comments/b5p79r/some_hitman_2_directx12_benchmarks_massive_fps/

Multiple sources confirm that FPS gains are massive with Pascal/Turing and a good CPU, between 20fps and 55fps in multiple areas. Look at my GPU usage, it's day and night.

Same hardware, same settings, same resolution, only API change between november 2018 and march 2019. I wanted to show the progression that was made in 5 months by IOI.

I went to the same spot in your Marrakesh screenshot and was getting 66 fps in DX11 and 72 in DX12. So there is an improvement, it's just weird that you would get such a massive difference. In areas where the CPU isn't stressed DX12 was actually giving me worse fps though. Like in the beginning of Sapienza - 100 fps DX11, 92 DX12
Last edited by randir14; Mar 26, 2019 @ 3:20pm
Hardware Mar 26, 2019 @ 3:23pm 
Originally posted by randir14:
Originally posted by Hardware:

What are you talking about ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/HiTMAN/comments/b5p79r/some_hitman_2_directx12_benchmarks_massive_fps/

Multiple sources confirm that FPS gains are massive with Pascal/Turing and a good CPU, between 20fps and 55fps in multiple areas. Look at my GPU usage, it's day and night.

Same hardware, same settings, same resolution, only API change between november 2018 and march 2019. I wanted to show the progression that was made in 5 months by IOI.

I went to the same spot in your Marrakesh screenshot and was getting 66 fps in DX11 and 72 in DX12. So there is an improvement, it's just weird that you would get such a massive difference. In areas where the CPU isn't stressed DX12 was actually giving me worse fps though. Like in the beginning of Sapienza - 100 fps DX11, 92 DX12

What is your configuration, specs, resolution ? A lot of things can explain that. And I saw some people and a friend with Pascal GPU and worse perf with DX12 strangely. IOI will probably patch it :)
Last edited by Hardware; Mar 26, 2019 @ 3:27pm
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