so what happened to the original hitman number 1?

[PainKiller]

if u really palid the series so we know he is clone number 47/// so who is the first?

[Kunovega]

Not all of them were hitmen.

Ortmeyer was trying to produce super soldiers. Many of the early experiments died.

47 went and joined the ICA and became a hitman, which had nothing to do with the original cloning program. He chose to keep the number as his name.

The clones that didn't die on their own were mostly killed by 47 in the early games. Several were sent to hunt him for being a traitor to their creator.

If any survived their condition and escaped the purge they are not currently noted anywhere in the storyline.

[PainKiller]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Not all of them were hitmen.

Ortmeyer was trying to produce super soldiers. Many of the early experiments died.

47 went and joined the ICA and became a hitman, which had nothing to do with the original cloning program. He chose to keep the number as his name.

The clones that didn't die on their own were mostly killed by 47 in the early games. Several were sent to hunt him for being a traitor to their creator.

If any survived their condition and escaped the purge they are not currently noted anywhere in the storyline.

yeah but what happened to the FIRST!!
in contracts u see many incubators with hitmans...
but all i want to know what happened to 1...

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by PainKiller:

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Not all of them were hitmen.

Ortmeyer was trying to produce super soldiers. Many of the early experiments died.

47 went and joined the ICA and became a hitman, which had nothing to do with the original cloning program. He chose to keep the number as his name.

The clones that didn't die on their own were mostly killed by 47 in the early games. Several were sent to hunt him for being a traitor to their creator.

If any survived their condition and escaped the purge they are not currently noted anywhere in the storyline.

yeah but what happened to the FIRST!!
in contracts u see many incubators with hitmans...
but all i want to know what happened to 1...

The lowest number ever shown was 6 and 47 kills him when they were 12 years old. There is no evidence of #1 specifically ever being shown or discussed other than as part of the group when it's mentioned that all the others are dead

However, that's only within clone series 4.

47 is the 47th clone of the 4th series of clones of which 81 were made. He's the only one known to still be alive.

Series 1 to 3 have never been explained in detail and are just mentioned in passing as having been failures and they were killed off

The series 4 were the first ones to be viable, but then everything falls apart and all the clones were killed, most of them by 47 directly

So whether you mean series 1 number 1 or series 4 number 1 the answer is the same: they are dead and that's all that was ever mentioned

You are asking for details that were never written

[PainKiller]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Originally posted by PainKiller:

yeah but what happened to the FIRST!!
in contracts u see many incubators with hitmans...
but all i want to know what happened to 1...

The lowest number ever shown was 6 and 47 kills him when they were 12 years old. There is no evidence of #1 specifically ever being shown or discussed other than as part of the group when it's mentioned that all the others are dead

However, that's only within clone series 4.

47 is the 47th clone of the 4th series of clones of which 81 were made. He's the only one known to still be alive.

Series 1 to 3 have never been explained in detail and are just mentioned in passing as having been failures and they were killed off

The series 4 were the first ones to be viable, but then everything falls apart and all the clones were killed, most of them by 47 directly

So whether you mean series 1 number 1 or series 4 number 1 the answer is the same: they are dead and that's all that was ever mentioned

You are asking for details that were never written

but this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ story.. the original story is that was created adults... i ssume u never played the first hitman and the contracts hitman.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by PainKiller:

Originally posted by Kunovega:

The lowest number ever shown was 6 and 47 kills him when they were 12 years old. There is no evidence of #1 specifically ever being shown or discussed other than as part of the group when it's mentioned that all the others are dead

However, that's only within clone series 4.

47 is the 47th clone of the 4th series of clones of which 81 were made. He's the only one known to still be alive.

Series 1 to 3 have never been explained in detail and are just mentioned in passing as having been failures and they were killed off

The series 4 were the first ones to be viable, but then everything falls apart and all the clones were killed, most of them by 47 directly

So whether you mean series 1 number 1 or series 4 number 1 the answer is the same: they are dead and that's all that was ever mentioned

You are asking for details that were never written

but this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ story.. the original story is that was created adults... i ssume u never played the first hitman and the contracts hitman.

I've not only played all of the games, but I've been playing them since they first came out 18 years ago from day one.

I've also taken the time to read the books and the comics all of which are considered canon by the developers (side note: the movies are NOT canon)

You are in fact wrong, there is nothing in the original games that imply they were "created as adults" the story simply picks up with them being adults in the games

If you bother to look into the complete story (which I have) you would understand the cloning process starts them as children and grows them into adults

They were kept in an orphanage to cover up their origins, ortmeyer went through 4 series of clones before he created one capable of surviving into adulthood

He created 81 clones in series 4 and began letting them out to experiment and see if he had finally created a successful super soldier. Because of how long it took him to complete his work he was finding it difficult to find buyers to invest in creating an entire clone army, he began experimenting with using them for other purposes such as professional assassins

You have to understand his original goal: he wanted to create clones that were emotionless and easily controlled that he could put into production and produce 1000's easily, he never achieved that success. His first batches were complete failures and his series 4 all had specific problems

47 showed signs of emotional bonding, something ortmeyer did not want, he originally labeled 47 a failure along with the rest, but as it turns out 47's touch of humanity was enough to make him a better killer. He was emotionless enough to get the jobs done but human enough to anticipate the behavior of those around him in an almost supernatural way, he made him a perfect hunter/killer, but not a good "soldier" which was the goal of the original program

Then 47 bonds with Diana and not his creator (ortmeyer) and the rest as they say is history. Ortmeyer sends clones after 47 and 47 kills them all, and that's the remaining ones that hadn't already been killed as children or during training, simply not all of them even survived into adulthood

Where the games pick up is actually when the original program is pretty much already defunct, what clones are alive are full grown adults, they were rounded back up, some of them mind wiped and put into stasis for storage in an asylum

Ortmeyer begins letting them out one by one to see if he can use them for other things and decide if he should make a series 5 and try again

47 escapes, gets hunted by the remaining clones and in the process the reamaining clones are killed, at least that's the story so far.

By the time 47 officially joins the ICA he's already bonded with Diana, the asylum has been closed and there's no trace remaining of ortmeyer (presumed dead) or any other clones (all presumed dead)

If ortmeyer is alive or any clones remain they have not been covered by any of the books or games at this point

You may also notice that in Absolution a rogue branch of the ICA attempts to start their own clone program, they've seen what 47 can do compared to their "normal" agents and that group decides they wanted more. The girl you rescue (for DIana) was their first success, you fake Diana's death, take down the rogue ICA group and shut down the ICA clone program

By the time you get to Hitman(2016) you are 7 years past that (except for the prologue which takes place prior to most of the othr games and then shows you flashes of all the games before dumping you in Paris in the year 2019)

You can argue with me all you want, but I didn't write the story, I'm just quoting you from what I've been reading/playing for the last 20 years. You can find out large pieces of 47's life from childhood through adulthood if you pay attention to all of it

What you won't find are specific details about each individual clone number or the final resting place of ortmeyer (who may have found a way to survive), only some of the clones have been shown by number and #1 (in series 4) is not one of them (yet)

I'm not sure what makes you think the clones were created as adults, this was never implied in the games, only that you wake up already an adult and carry on from there

[MiloshKeat]

You did a great job summarizing the plot and the origin @Kunovega
Good stuff!