HITMAN™ 2

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Thunder Bagel Apr 21, 2019 @ 12:36pm
Do you ever kill non-targets?
I try painstakingly hard not to kill anyone who's not a target since you get that big penalty for doing so but at the same time, everyone always has that impulse to kill whoever they want and with the wide variety of assault rifles, shotguns, and pistols the game offers, IO is obviously encouraging those impulses.

So do you ever go in guns blazing? I feel like I would only ever do so if I've severely botched the mission and I'm just messing around before I die and restart. I would never bring a rifle or shotgun into a mission
Last edited by Thunder Bagel; Apr 21, 2019 @ 12:37pm
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spoopyghost Apr 21, 2019 @ 1:19pm 
I like to roleplay. That means handling the unexpected with an ICA19, where necessary.

I try to avoid collateral, but I'm not that interested in the score.
Beef Hammer Apr 21, 2019 @ 2:28pm 
I've gone rambo a few times right from the start, it can be entertaining.
Kunovega Apr 21, 2019 @ 2:45pm 
It really depends on what I'm doing. You ask this question as if you only play through the game once.

Personally I replay every mission in every possible way. I've done them all purist, no non targets, suit only, silent assassin, even done them without knock outs and not touching anyone but targets. I've also killed 100% every single npc on every map. And every variation in between.

My first play through was "whatever" just to learn maps. Second play through was pure silent assassin / suit only followed by sniper challenge, basically 2nd/3rd play through on master were to complete 100% of the classic challenges.

The next however many completions were to fill in the rest of the challenges, I typically don't care about collateral damage and focus on the actual challenge requirements as quickly as possible if I'm doing a challenge run.

With 100% of the challenges done I'll go back through and play purist, no knock outs, no non targets just to prove to myself I can. Then I'll play again and aim for a decent leaderboard score. After that I'll play again and kill every npc on every map if I hadn't already done it during a challenge run.

And that's on top of ghost mode, contracts and occasionally toying with sniper assassin.



Kalvix Apr 21, 2019 @ 2:55pm 
I'm doing it as I always do in Hitman games, knock people out as I need to for disguises or to get into places but try my best to avoid it where I can and go for an accident so people are left not knowing if there even was an assassination.
Mongrel Games Apr 21, 2019 @ 3:39pm 
I usaly just knock then out when I can but sometimes il just set up some heavy items and run through the map taking out everyone including the civs sometimes so they cant go tell someone where I am. It depends on how much time I have and if im going for a specific challenge.
Mr_Faorry Apr 21, 2019 @ 3:42pm 
It depends, sometimes I''ll play the proper way, othertimes I'll play like Dishonored and kill who ever is in my way, occasionally I'll play like Call of Duty and gun everyone down and of course there are the times when I play with self imposed restrictions of some sort.
burningmime Apr 21, 2019 @ 7:15pm 
Almost never; my usual playstyle is Master+SO/SA+No KOs. I do enjoy going Rambo then switching disguises and having no one notice me; that's fun for like 20 minutes.
Face_roll_dude Apr 21, 2019 @ 10:44pm 
my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ autistic mind forces me to execute everything as stealthily and as invisible as possible. the only time i feel loosened up to do a bit of a killing spree is only to complete really hard challenges or challenges that require you to go nuts anyway
JackTheRipper Apr 22, 2019 @ 12:27am 
Diana - "47 what are you doing?"

Me - "NO WITNESSES!"

Diana - "Oh my god 47 stop you where just supposed to kill the 2 targets, you've killed 1/2 of Marrakesh. Lets not turn this into another how many corpses can I fit in a bathroom on the Paris mission"

Me not paying attention and singing as i walk through the crowd meat cleavering people
"I saw the sigh and it opened up my eyes...oh I saw the sign"

So ya I guess you could say sometimes I kill a few non targets....

I mean the Devs did take the time to make several automatic weapon unlocks and it feels like a dis service not to inappropriately use them to make mountains of corpses for 47 to dive into like piles of leaves...

And lets not forget all the insults about bad breath that the npcs throw at poor 47.
Last edited by JackTheRipper; Apr 22, 2019 @ 12:29am
Xeno Metora Apr 22, 2019 @ 2:35am 
YES...sometimes if some guards stand in my way i will kill them or beat them cause i don't feel like bothering to sneak around them

i feel like this is what agent 47 would do in real life cause it makes little sense to waste time and overcomplicate things just because 2 clowns are guarding a door

i feel like when you have the ability to dispose of anyone with your bare hands in a matter of seconds you don't bother doing too much unnecessary sneaking around
Last edited by Xeno Metora; Apr 22, 2019 @ 2:43am
Eddo Apr 22, 2019 @ 3:23am 
I try not to.

Look, it depends on what you are doing. If you want to play perfectly, of course not. If you are doing in-game challenges or just messing around, who cares? All killing non-targets does it lower your score and prevent SA. People get way too hung up on the penalty I think.
Dominian Apr 22, 2019 @ 5:51am 
Absolutely. After doing all the story missions, getting all the disguises and doing challenges like SA/SO I did "kill everyone" runs.

I also have savegames where I am armed to the teeth with all available explosives and have cleared most of the levels guards without alerting anyone. I then try to cause as much death as possible while not being detected and escaping with a disguise. Of course this has to be done on master difficulty to be a challenge.

The fashion show is excellent for this. You can run throw explosives down from the gallery and start shooting at the people running out through the main hall. I put a bunch of guns there for ammo and the only place guards can come up is via the stairwell.

In Miami it's quite the challenge to shoot up the disco, VIP area, the stands and the normal area around the stands.

In Marrakesh it's not that hard, but you have the most explosives available. There are nine remote explosives in that level. You can clear out the entire embassy+yard without the demonstration stopping. After that just place the explosives in the crowd and get out one of the many AKs in that level to blast away the people running to the sides and to shoot into the market for extra carnage. Clearing the market becomes super tedious, because the pipless npcs don't even have a run-to-exit script function. They just stand there while you can knife a hundred of them.

In Sapienza there is the level with Marco Abbiati where you can collect propane from the church garden shed and put it into the concert crowd to cause a chain reaction with explosives+propane flasks+propane heaters. Then you can shoot at the crowd from the balcony.

The goal is still to eliminate the target and get away incognito. The terrorism is just role-play viable distraction. Maybe that's why we don't get the newspapers feature anymore after a level. That would be quite cool, but also disturbing.

So to answer your question: Yes. I do kill A LOT of non-targets and it's fun to a twisted basterd like me.
If i'm after a silent assassin rating i will do everything in my power to get it, given how elusive targets are and ill never be able to attempt to get the rating again i will always do my utmost, If however if I'm done with silent assassin on that mission don't need it in that particular run either and I'm after specific challenges i have absolutely no issues whatsoever in just shooting enforcers,people who might see me do something, people with a disguise i need, an entire security detail in the skull, I've also run kill them all playthrough's using only katana stealth kills in hitman 1 and am verymuch looking forward to the return of masamune so i can do so in hitman 2
Kunovega Apr 22, 2019 @ 12:50pm 
Originally posted by Team Петро:
On some levels it feels like stupid NOT to kill targets, such as colorado

On this map, everyone is basicly a terrorist, so why would you bother not killing that guard or the guy researching explosives ?

Same for colorado, is it really bad to kill a sicario or others trafickers ?

47 is not a hero

It's not about whether it's good or bad to kill anyone, it's about whether or not he's been paid to do it

Killing random people is giving away work for free. He kills who he get's paid to kill

This seasons story is garbage because it's falling into the cliche revenge plot and not just having 47 at work doing his dam job
Thunder Bagel Apr 22, 2019 @ 5:44pm 
Originally posted by Kunovega:
Originally posted by Team Петро:
On some levels it feels like stupid NOT to kill targets, such as colorado

On this map, everyone is basicly a terrorist, so why would you bother not killing that guard or the guy researching explosives ?

Same for colorado, is it really bad to kill a sicario or others trafickers ?

47 is not a hero

It's not about whether it's good or bad to kill anyone, it's about whether or not he's been paid to do it

Killing random people is giving away work for free. He kills who he get's paid to kill

This seasons story is garbage because it's falling into the cliche revenge plot and not just having 47 at work doing his dam job

Yeah, I prefer there not to be an interconnecting story but just tell us the backstory of the characters and why they deserve to die.
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