Just realized you can still be spotted by the target and still get Silent Assassin.

[Hayden]

I've put 150 hours into S2 and a bit more into S1 and never knew this.

You can let a target see you, but as long as you kill them you will keep your SA rating. This makes perfect sense because they're dead and can't ever say anything. That's a cool little detail. Sometimes I like confronting the targets, pointing a gun at them and shooting them from the front. It's nice you don't get penalized for that.

[Mr_Faorry]

This wasn't the case in Season 1, it was only new to this game.
IIRC it wasn't even like this at launch, they only changed it around the same time trespassing broke a month or two after launch.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Mr_Faorry:

This wasn't the case in Season 1, it was only new to this game.
IIRC it wasn't even like this at launch, they only changed it around the same time trespassing broke a month or two after launch.

Additionally you still need to follow the original SA rules for no evidence challenge completion

[🎇TYPHOON🎇]

They added it in the Apil update and it was about time they did. Really made no sense to lose SA rating just because the target spotted you...moments before his death.

[n00bdragon]

I kind of dislike how arbitrary SA is. I'd rather there simply be a set of sore modifiers for almost everything and then put a few more titles in there. Maybe if you have something like never spotted (target or otherwise), no evidence, suit recovered, no bodies found (even for accidents or poison), no weapons reloaded, no items seized, never recorded, targets only, no knockouts, all bodies hidden, and no guards alerted to explosions or alarms then you get a Ghostly Assassin rating or something silly.

[Pilzquadrat]

That change makes sense but it also made the game insanely more easy and bland.

For example, knife kills on two separate targets in the same room (contratcs) now turned into "just storm in and slay them both from the front" - SA.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Pilzquadrat:

That change makes sense but it also made the game insanely more easy and bland.

For example, knife kills on two separate targets in the same room (contratcs) now turned into "just storm in and slay them both from the front" - SA.

In contracts mode you can still enforce the old rules by requiring "don't be spotted"

SA let's you be seen by a target you are about to kill, but you would still fail the "don't be spotted" requirement if they see you

[Mo0rk]

That is most certainly not the case in Colorado legacy. I just redid this mission and killed Pavati using the car ramming machine thing and forgot to crouch when I pressed the button. As she was facing me, she saw me do it, and I lost my "unseen" bonus points and my SA rank.

It must be just the Hitman 2 missions where this applies.

Actually I disagree with losing your SA rank in such cases anyway, because IMO it should not matter if the person seeing you is dead, it's not like they could testify against you!

[Jacko]

I must mention that this is not just the case for targets. Killing witnesses can salvage your "Never Spotted" and "No Bodies Found" bonuses, meaning it's actually beneficial to kill an isolated witness if possible. This is only useful if you care about a higher score, though, you will still lose SA.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Mo0rk:

That is most certainly not the case in Colorado legacy. I just redid this mission and killed Pavati using the car ramming machine thing and forgot to crouch when I pressed the button. As she was facing me, she saw me do it, and I lost my "unseen" bonus points and my SA rank.

It must be just the Hitman 2 missions where this applies.

Actually I disagree with losing your SA rank in such cases anyway, because IMO it should not matter if the person seeing you is dead, it's not like they could testify against you!

Rules apply to all missions, legacy or not

Likely that one situation may have been due to her proximity to others. If a target sees you and gets near other people, the game thinks they had time to tell on you and you still lose SA

In most cases this would be a target running away and alerting guards before you could silence whatever they witnessed, in this case you had guards nearby but killed her possibly before they were alerted but still within proximity of losing the not-spotted effect