What's the secret to late tricks?

[it's a gabe]

I'm having trouble understand when I should try and do them. So far I've managed to do the one foot tricks (front and back) and regular flips (right stick down, left stick left or right, for example). It's not consistent, though, as I can't pull them off on the first try and sometimes they come as an accident. I even did a shuv by accident but couldn't figure out how.

Flips seem to use the same control scheme for late tricks as they do when on the ground, but what about others such as shuvs, etc.? I've been practicing these more involved tricks (e.g. pop shuvit 360) and I'm not doing too bad on ground, but I guess I'm not fast enough to pull them as late tricks.

[lordasphyxia]

I find late shuvs harder to do, but they're the same inputs as on ground also. The late tricks, well first make sure they're enabled (somewhere in the options you'll see it).

To practice, I'd first just ollie and wait until you're in the air, then flick the stick to the right or left. Either stick will work - one will be your front foot, the other back of course.

Next step would be probably 180 ollies with late flip. You can also mix it up to do fun stuff down stairs, like a tre-flip late back foot heel, or multiple late flips.

[it's a gabe]

That's what I've been practicing with, but it seems there's a very narrow window to do late tricks. If I'm still in the air but am "too late" according to whatever the game deems appropriate, they won't trigger. The only way I found was to do them immediately after I ollie, and even then they've been quite difficult to pull off.

I just don't know if I have to be faster with my input or if I'm not understanding the window in which they're available at all. I was practicing at the Crea-true park, where I found a huge gap right by the entrance, so I had a lot of air time.

[Pig Mac]

The late shuvs you have to start from the 'side' so if your skating regular you can (practice down a stair or so with some air time) hold the stick for the foot you want to shuv to one side.. for example if you tap your right stick right. you will late back foot heel flip, but holding it to the right and move it in a quarter or half circle down(/left) you will do the shuv..
Same with starting from the left... or rather reversed :)
For the front you do the same but with the left stick to one direction and upwards and to direction of the shuv.

They are quite hard to mix in with hardcore mid-tricks, but not that much harder than a really clean manual catch during the same trick.

It's just avoiding 'tapping' in any direction and to follow thought the motion before release, that takes a bit of time to nail.

[it's a gabe]

Originally posted by Pig Mac:

The late shuvs you have to start from the 'side' so if your skating regular you can (practice down a stair or so with some air time) hold the stick for the foot you want to shuv to one side.. for example if you tap your right stick right. you will late back foot heel flip, but holding it to the right and move it in a quarter or half circle down(/left) you will do the shuv..
Same with starting from the left... or rather reversed :)
For the front you do the same but with the left stick to one direction and upwards and to direction of the shuv.

They are quite hard to mix in with hardcore mid-tricks, but not that much harder than a really clean manual catch during the same trick.

It's just avoiding 'tapping' in any direction and to follow thought the motion before release, that takes a bit of time to nail.

OOOH, so late tricks don't use the same commands as ground tricks! That's why I've been doing it wrong this whole time and why I had so much trouble pulling off the most simple ones.

I just did some late shuv (didn't quite catch the whole name) by just using the right stick instead of right stick + a flick of the left.

Thanks, man!

[Pig Mac]

..and unless something have changed recently, make sure you have the scoop set to normal instead of short, as it registered the scoop inputs wrong when set to short (that is the default for hardcore settings for some odd reason)

[it's a gabe]

Originally posted by Pig Mac:

..and unless something have changed recently, make sure you have the scoop set to normal instead of short, as it registered the scoop inputs wrong when set to short (that is the default for hardcore settings for some odd reason)

Noted! tysm!