Is this game too easy?

[Phil.]

So I completed the first 5 runs and it feels too easy for me. Is it just me? Is this game harder in the "late" game?

[Jackeea]

It gets REALLY harder in the late game, yeah. The first episode for each character is purposely easy so you can get to grips with how they work!

[inappropriately_gendered_fungus]

Originally posted by Jackeea:

It gets REALLY harder in the late game, yeah. The first episode for each character is purposely easy so you can get to grips with how they work!

You say this, but I never won a run with the Witch in the Alpha after trying several times (and always gunning for Hall of Mirrors, to be fair).

[Iron Cookie 53]

It may be easy for you but the elimination round area cost me more than my fair share of do overs! Angry face!!

[okcomputing]

You should try the other episodes for each character. They get a lot more challenging.

[Iron Cookie 53]

I am, guy with Jake as their profile pic.

[okcomputing]

Well then. You're pretty decent at this game (or I'm awful)! Isn't there a hard mode that can be unlocked? I seem to remember that from the early-access releases, but I'm not sure if that's still in. I assume it would be.

[Arganadar]

Originally posted by daxy:

You should try the other episodes for each character. They get a lot more challenging.

Glad to hear that, winning on my first try is so discouraging in a Rogue-lite. First impressions matter, and this one left me lukewarm. They should find a way to fix that.

[MimicMachine]

Originally posted by Arganadar:

Originally posted by daxy:

You should try the other episodes for each character. They get a lot more challenging.

Glad to hear that, winning on my first try is so discouraging in a Rogue-lite. First impressions matter, and this one left me lukewarm. They should find a way to fix that.

Besides ye old styled Rogue-lites I've usually not had problems in first runs of a lot of rogue-lites that well received.

[Arganadar]

Originally posted by Kraj of the Mimics:

Besides ye old styled Rogue-lites I've usually not had problems in first runs of a lot of rogue-lites that well received.

I just don't like feeling like the Warrior is over. I've won, first try without even knowing anything about the game. Why would I play it again?

It seems there will be new episodes with more difficulty, which might be interesting. But they only come after I've won. I want a game to kick my ass if I don't know how to play. It can't be so easy that I figure it out as I go.

[MimicMachine]

Originally posted by Arganadar:

I just don't like feeling like the Warrior is over. I've won, first try without even knowing anything about the game. Why would I play it again?

It seems there will be new episodes with more difficulty, which might be interesting. But they only come after I've won. I want a game to kick my ass if I don't know how to play. It can't be so easy that I figure it out as I go.

Warrior and Thief are pretty easy, the other characters can bring you some pain if you haven't figured out how to use them immediately enough that you mistakenly grab something you can't properly use or unknowingly didn't want.

The later episodes will really change stuff up, even two and three can add some difficulty for Warrior and Thief. It can feel like playing a different character at that. But you will certainly not win if you didn't understand how a character worked in the first place and thus why the first round is a case of "easy enough to get used to the character".

I do get what you mean though. Its just not something that happens in recent games as much if they are not trying to be ye old roguelikes. . . or maybe its a case of getting used to these types of games and they aren't hard anymore.

[Iron Cookie 53]

It is me, the guy who is wasting one retry too many on the Elemination Round area with another character! All those failures of mine make me angry!! But I am not quitting until I win!

[Cambo]

I'd say if I were to compare this to a game like slay the spire this game is much harder. I fully completed the entire slay the spire game in under an hour and got it refunded.

[Wexmajor]

Originally posted by Cambo:

I'd say if I were to compare this to a game like slay the spire this game is much harder. I fully completed the entire slay the spire game in under an hour and got it refunded.

Wow, that's amazing. You beat the heart on ascension level 20 with all three characters in under an hour?

[Arganadar]

Originally posted by Kraj of the Mimics:

I do get what you mean though. Its just not something that happens in recent games as much if they are not trying to be ye old roguelikes. . . or maybe its a case of getting used to these types of games and they aren't hard anymore.

Is it really "old roguelikes", though? I recently got "Frost" (2017), which is basically a card game that you could print, maybe you add a dice and you can play it. Not only it killed me while I was trying to figure it out (after playing the tutorial) but it also quickly showed me the settings to adjust difficulty. Only now, after almost 2 hours, I get to see this game has episodes and characters aren't done.

I get the idea of offering an easy intro to make sure people aren't turned off quickly. I guess I was just expecting clear indication of the difficulty scaling up before I'm reaching the refund window.

Even the one that beat Slay the Spire first try got Ascension to signal "Hey, we can ramp up the difficulty" pretty quickly.

[NoSeKe]

Originally posted by Cambo:

I'd say if I were to compare this to a game like slay the spire this game is much harder. I fully completed the entire slay the spire game in under an hour and got it refunded.

So you play one run of a game with huge variance in terms of RNG, without unlocking other characters, cards, relics or the other 20 levels of difficulty and you dare say the game is too easy? StS is huge, you can't drop "facts" like that after playing one run. You basically beat the tutorial.
It's funny how you're trying to flex and you ended up sounding like... well, I'm not gonna say it.