Dicey Dungeons

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Aoife is such bull$hit
Let's see...12 shield and (at least) 13 damage (probably much more) every single turn?!

Yeah, I'd love to build that character.

#broken

Refund very likely.
Last edited by TheronGodspeed; Aug 24, 2019 @ 12:03pm
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Powa Aug 24, 2019 @ 12:14pm 
Mate, calm down! If she beats you too hard in the face, then make a normal suggestion post ;-) Otherwise you need to adapt your build. I beat her once in the first encounter with her.
READ HOUSEPETS Aug 24, 2019 @ 12:21pm 
That just means you need to up your build efficiency. You need to be doing about 30+ damage on your best rounds with basically any character. (well...except the witch, I don't know how you beat her playing the witch except attrition)
Jackeea Aug 24, 2019 @ 12:23pm 
12 shield is the worst case scenario! Also, she's a boss... she's not meant to be a pushover.
pop pop Aug 24, 2019 @ 12:26pm 
Imagine what i felt getting pummeled by her with 14 max hp...

Cause of this dice nature of the game despite any clever game design you are destined to sometimes get "oh crap" moments
I've beaten Aoife with her own build, it's pretty great. The thing is, if you're doing nothing but pure damage, you'd better have a LOT of it or you're toast. But freeze, lock, and especially shock will really set her back, more than the other bosses. She's sort of the opposite of Scathach in that respect. It wouldn't be a bad time to bring out curse gear if you have it!
Last edited by Mahaveez -WRITE mode-; Aug 24, 2019 @ 12:50pm
TheronGodspeed Aug 24, 2019 @ 12:58pm 
She rolled at least 2 sixes each turn for the first three turns. RNG for FtL, I guess.

After that, it was at least 10 shield each turn, so then (13+ dmg) each turn, which with her number of dice is not completely unreasonable.

In the end, I've got much better roguelikes to play.
Jackeea Aug 24, 2019 @ 12:59pm 
Yeah, that's just bad RNG then. If you're just running a "hit the enemies until they die" build, then Aoife is the worst boss to be up against.
Mulzaro Aug 24, 2019 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by READ HOUSEPETS:
That just means you need to up your build efficiency. You need to be doing about 30+ damage on your best rounds with basically any character. (well...except the witch, I don't know how you beat her playing the witch except attrition)

Witch is actually pretty strong against her because you usually get atleast 2 or 3 offered freezing spells during the run. Aoife is completely useless if you just freeze all her dice.
TheronGodspeed Aug 24, 2019 @ 1:02pm 
I wasn't running pure dmg. I was running with Warrior, upgraded Spike shield, upgraded healing crystal, upgraded bump, upgraded Axe(?) (double dmg, max 4 thing), upgraded cookie.

Which, was essentially a weaker version of her own game + a bit of healing.

I stomped (at full health!) through the entire run, never using/needed a healing heart, then just got destroyed.
Last edited by TheronGodspeed; Aug 24, 2019 @ 1:07pm
TheronGodspeed Aug 24, 2019 @ 1:05pm 
And, on top of all that, I had fps drops, 1 crash, and the whole thing just feels unstable.
Ugh...
Jackeea Aug 24, 2019 @ 1:35pm 
So you... had two usable weapons against her, and healing? Yeah, that's not going to beat Aoife!
TheronGodspeed Aug 24, 2019 @ 1:46pm 
ok
TheronGodspeed Aug 24, 2019 @ 2:06pm 
Question: Is that an appropriate difficulty curve?

-I literally went through the run ending each fight with full health. It was a flawless victory until the boss.

-Is the boss fight the only battle that matters in the entire run? What does that say, when the only challenging battle is the boss? I mean, why even go through the rest of the run? Why not just offer a quick draft of card after after card and a random assortment of upgrades, items, etc...and then just offer the boss fight?

In the end, the Journey has to matter. This is a roguelike, right? The journey to the boss has to be challenging, interesting, and meaningful. My experience with this game is that the entire run is Milk-toast until the boss.
Last edited by TheronGodspeed; Aug 24, 2019 @ 2:07pm
Jackeea Aug 24, 2019 @ 2:11pm 
* Skeleton and Banshee have almost the same damage as Aoife, but with Curse and Silence

* Sneezy (a level 2 enemy!) has a similar damage maximum to Aoife

Really, your build just wasn't... well, good. I genuinely have zero idea how you made it through! You had 2 weapons (one of which is basically a shield); of course you're not going to beat a boss. Madison would have kicked your ass, Beatrice would have been a pain because of her dodge, and even Scathach (the weakest boss) would have destroyed you.
TheronGodspeed Aug 24, 2019 @ 2:17pm 
Well, the run offered me 2 other bumps, a shovel, and 1 large poison card (does dmg, poisons on a 6). I was offered a trade for something completely useless...trying to remember...It was a ton of crap with Zero freezes, weakens, shocks, etc... The shovel was the one card capable of a debuff in my equipment.

I mean, I can only use what was given. And, yeah, I know it's a rogue-like, but like I've said...no battle threatened my build, until the boss.

That's a crap difficulty curve, regardless.
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Date Posted: Aug 24, 2019 @ 12:02pm
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