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dabeast91701 Nov 2, 2023 @ 10:06pm
How to Get New Military Tradition Trees
I'm playing as rome, I have integrated the Punic culture which is the second largest culture in my empire but it doesn't unlock the Punic military traditions or any other ones. Also there is no decision having to do with it either. PLEASE HELP!:steamsad:
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Jean-Maurice Nya Nov 3, 2023 @ 12:11am 
If I recall, you cannot unlock it with the Italic military traditions tree, just with the Levantine one and the Barbaric one.
So you have to integrate a Celtic/Iberic/Germanic culture first, or more easily Egyptian. You'll probably need at least 500 pops of that culture. Then you can aim for the North African military tradition tree.

To fasten the process, have legions and train them, have a good Tribune of the Soldiers with high martial skill and a high war exhaustion to get a massive % bonus. You can unlock traditions pretty fast (every 80-100 months if you max everything).
Beware with the war exhaustion, you should consider having a high stability and a high happiness to counter its effects. High stability can be hard to get as you need to be constantly at war to increase your war exhaustion, meaning a probably high aggressive expansion that plunders stability.
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jomigaru Nov 3, 2023 @ 5:12am 
Originally posted by dabeast91701:
I'm playing as rome, I have integrated the Punic culture which is the second largest culture in my empire but it doesn't unlock the Punic military traditions or any other ones. Also there is no decision having to do with it either. PLEASE HELP!:steamsad:

Is it Vanilla or Invictus? Because rules are different
galadon3 Nov 3, 2023 @ 7:55am 
If it is standard, as rome try to get the greek-trads very early on, you get quite some greek pops when conquering southern italy. Just make sure you don't conquer stuff too soon, since you need ONE culture with the pop-number needed and the needed number goes up with your total pop-count (limitet at a max of 500 pops needed).
So its kinda crucial to unlock greece very early on.
Greece can unlock levantine, wich in turn can unlock northern african.
Punic as a culture is a bit of a joker, since they count for unlocking levantine as well as northern african.
Then the only ones you miss are barbarian, persian and indian.
Barbarian can be unlocked from romes own italic tree, having enough pops shouldn't be a problem. Persian can be unlocked from greek, wich should also not be a problem even if you missed it earlier from southern italian greeks, if you integrate macedon culture. By the time you conquer the east the Diadochi should have assimilated enough pops into that.
Only one possibly a bit tricky is getting enough ppl of persian culture-groups, but if you are a bit lucky one of the northern rider-tribes will have managed to build a big enough empire.
Unlocking indian should then not be too difficult since the Maurya might be in eternal civil wars but usually retain a big enough pop-count so that you get the needed number.
Last edited by galadon3; Nov 3, 2023 @ 12:16pm
dabeast91701 Nov 5, 2023 @ 6:42pm 
Originally posted by jomigaru:
Originally posted by dabeast91701:
I'm playing as rome, I have integrated the Punic culture which is the second largest culture in my empire but it doesn't unlock the Punic military traditions or any other ones. Also there is no decision having to do with it either. PLEASE HELP!:steamsad:

Is it Vanilla or Invictus? Because rules are different
vanilla
dabeast91701 Nov 5, 2023 @ 6:45pm 
Originally posted by galadon3:
If it is standard, as rome try to get the greek-trads very early on, you get quite some greek pops when conquering southern italy. Just make sure you don't conquer stuff too soon, since you need ONE culture with the pop-number needed and the needed number goes up with your total pop-count (limitet at a max of 500 pops needed).
So its kinda crucial to unlock greece very early on.
Greece can unlock levantine, wich in turn can unlock northern african.
Punic as a culture is a bit of a joker, since they count for unlocking levantine as well as northern african.
Then the only ones you miss are barbarian, persian and indian.
Barbarian can be unlocked from romes own italic tree, having enough pops shouldn't be a problem. Persian can be unlocked from greek, wich should also not be a problem even if you missed it earlier from southern italian greeks, if you integrate macedon culture. By the time you conquer the east the Diadochi should have assimilated enough pops into that.
Only one possibly a bit tricky is getting enough ppl of persian culture-groups, but if you are a bit lucky one of the northern rider-tribes will have managed to build a big enough empire.
Unlocking indian should then not be too difficult since the Maurya might be in eternal civil wars but usually retain a big enough pop-count so that you get the needed number.
It is standard. I'm new to the game so can you give step by step on how to get ANY other tradition tree? It's a bit confusing. Thanks
dabeast91701 Nov 5, 2023 @ 6:46pm 
Originally posted by Jean-Maurice Nya:
If I recall, you cannot unlock it with the Italic military traditions tree, just with the Levantine one and the Barbaric one.
So you have to integrate a Celtic/Iberic/Germanic culture first, or more easily Egyptian. You'll probably need at least 500 pops of that culture. Then you can aim for the North African military tradition tree.

To fasten the process, have legions and train them, have a good Tribune of the Soldiers with high martial skill and a high war exhaustion to get a massive % bonus. You can unlock traditions pretty fast (every 80-100 months if you max everything).
Beware with the war exhaustion, you should consider having a high stability and a high happiness to counter its effects. High stability can be hard to get as you need to be constantly at war to increase your war exhaustion, meaning a probably high aggressive expansion that plunders stability.
It is standard. I'm new to the game so can you give step by step on how to get ANY other tradition tree? It's a bit confusing. Thanks
Jean-Maurice Nya Nov 5, 2023 @ 9:50pm 
I explained it already.
galadon3 Nov 6, 2023 @ 12:39am 
1. When you look through your two italic trad-trees you find "embrace italo-greek influence" in the "Roman Traditions" tree and "Embrace italo-celtic influence" in the "Italic Tribe Traditions" tree.
Those are the two techs you can unlock either the greek-trees or the barbarian-trees with.
2. Those techs list what you need. They name a number of culture groups.
What you need is to integrate (give citizens rights to) a culture from any of those groups that count a number of pops equaling 25% of your roman (your main culture) pops, capping at 500 pops (so you never need more then 500 pops of the integrated culture no matter how many pops of your main-culture you have)
Its important to note that you need ONE culture with that number of pops. So if you need 200 pops you need to integrate ONE culture of wich you have 200 pops in your realm, integrating like 3 who have 100, 50 and 50 wouldn't work.
3. unlock the embrace-influence tech while you fullfill the pop-requirement.

That pop-requirement is why I said to concentrate on greek influence early on since there are the italiotic and siciliotic cultures in southern italy, both are hellenic but they don't have THAT many pops, so its best to try and unlock greek-influence early on when you don't have that many roman pops so you can hit the 25% of roman pops requirement with a relatively low number of either italiotic or sicilote pops.
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