I cant merge my levies

[Hagemann]

Playing as a belgian tribe, i can raise 2 armies with my 2 governors, but the individual cohorts are all split between between different characters and 2 regional governors, so instead of 2 levied armies, im running around with 5 cohorts attached to my "main" army.

Can someone explain whats going on or how to merge my levies?

[sammwich]

This is how it works now. You can't combine legions or levies from different governorships.

[Razor Feather]

Tribes have the “retinue” system, where your levies from each region are split up with a small piece controlled by each tribal chief. These segments cannot be merged with those controlled by a different chief, or those from another region. So in summary, you’re stuck with it until you change government types.

You can never merge stacks from different regions, but having just one stack per governorship to deal with is a lot better than having 4-5.

Its not a great system for sure, and I hope it gets a look over at some point soon.

[Hagemann]

Originally posted by Razor Feather:

Tribes have the “retinue” system, where your levies from each region are split up with a small piece controlled by each tribal chief.

What decides who gets what and how many troops?

[Razor Feather]

Originally posted by Opiom🐘:

Originally posted by Razor Feather:

Tribes have the “retinue” system, where your levies from each region are split up with a small piece controlled by each tribal chief.

What decides who gets what and how many troops?

Each chief has a "retinue size" that determines what portion of your levies they get, and if there aren't enough levies to give each person a minimal amount of cohorts, I believe they are assigned going left to right on the chief listing in the government panel. I don't know what exactly modifies retinue size, but IIRC low centralization increases it, so more of your troops get handed out to the chiefs instead of your ruler.

[Dedmoin]

I am playing as tribal and cannot merge my own troops. I have 7 units and they spawn in three groups of 3, 2, 2. The merge button is enabled but does nothing. Maybe because also some other troops have been selected. I have to try again.

This is super annoying as one group of units consists of light infantry and cavalery that moves quicker than my other troops. It already happened my light troops started the battle and already have been destroyed before the rest of the army arrived.
I tried with attaching units to each other but no clue how this works in this game when it was super easy in CK2.

[Razor Feather]

Originally posted by Dedmoin:

I am playing as tribal and cannot merge my own troops. I have 7 units and they spawn in three groups of 3, 2, 2. The merge button is enabled but does nothing. Maybe because also some other troops have been selected. I have to try again.

This is super annoying as one group of units consists of light infantry and cavalery that moves quicker than my other troops. It already happened my light troops started the battle and already have been destroyed before the rest of the army arrived.
I tried with attaching units to each other but no clue how this works in this game when it was super easy in CK2.

See my comment just above yours. Each chief is entitled to controlling a portion of your levies, and levies commanded by different chiefs cannot be merged together. Its just how tribal works.

[[__h.stickeye_]]

get used to using levies properly. They are actually more powerful and spawn with full morale.

[Hagemann]

Having to micromanage 12 different armies with different mobility, skills and commanders

[[__h.stickeye_]]

yes, its part of the game, tactics and strategy.

[Dedmoin]

Originally posted by __h.stickeye_:

yes, its part of the game, tactics and strategy.

Quite the opposite. Since we are stuck with random army compositions.
I can understand, from 'historical' point of view, to not merge armies that are controlled by different clan chiefs.
Why is it not possible to assign armies to the same troop formation? instead I have to individually attaching them to each other and then still see them as individual armies instead of one formation.
I have to play around with attaching units but it seems it is not obvious what units are attached to what. And i cannot assign armies in formations like it was possible in CK2.
So far to 'tactics and strategy'

[Hagemann]

Originally posted by __h.stickeye_:

yes, its part of the game, tactics and strategy.

Its not implemented very good

[Jiggy]

Originally posted by Hagemann:

Having to micromanage 12 different armies with different mobility, skills and commanders

You can use the 'Attach' function in the units and make Army Groups. That's what I do.
It also gives you the advantage to keep the commander with higher martial in the front and the weaker one as the follow.

These tribal states keep on having huge hug-fests and make massive defensive leagues and alliances. I believe one is forced to make army groups to deal with them as they come with 6-8 different armies.

Just sharing what happened a few hours back playing as Frisia:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2914753855
If you see my western front, it has eight tribal states, with seven of them merged in a defensive league. The moment I put my claim and attack Menapia, all the other tribals unite and counter attack.
There are (only) four bridges through which their levies can enter Frisia, two on the borders they share with me, and two inside their territories.
So, I formed four army groups, three made from my levies (I got four of them, Germania, Boihemia, Germania Superior & Scandia) and one from hired mercenaries.
Attacked them with two army groups and took those bridges inside their territories, and kept two army groups as reserve on the border we share.
It was horrible that Avionia up in the north with their tribal hug-fests up there of five tribal states and launched on me after few weeks of my starting the western operation forcing me to go for white peace in the west and later on in the north.
So, all I am saying is do not get frustrated with the system but use it efficiently to your advantage.

[[__h.stickeye_]]

Thank you Jiggy for your tip.

If you can't figure out how to coordinate a few low level levies, how are you going to manage an empire? I'll answer that for you; you won't.

[Jiggy]

Originally posted by __h.stickeye_:

Thank you Jiggy for your tip.

Anytime friend.

Also I forgot to mention, when attaching units and making an army group, take care of the speed. Archers, Chariots, Light Infantry, Heavy Infantry etc. walk with slow speed and Light Cavalry moves with high speed.
Sometimes, depending on what you are playing, you will get a levy exclusively made of cavalry. Always attach that cavalry to the main army having slower troops when forming a group and not vice versa.
Else your cavalry will reach the battlefront faster than the main body and get itself massacred.
I learnt it the hard way when I was playing Scythia with ambitions of sacking the world to my west :D

[Dedmoin]

What is the advantage of attaching units then?
If they don't align in speed or ease navigation or management?

I could not find a way on how to attach several units at once. Do I really have to click each of the unit and attach them individually?

Is there any indication which unit is attached and which is the leading?