Desolate land.

[Samus]

I have noticed a lot of seemingly Desolate areas that are all greyed out in the map. Are those really unplayable areas? because all of interior spain is seemingly desolate. Not that I think the game is small by any means. Just seems like a bummer to cut out so much land, even if they were less developed societies.

[Alien]

Some of the wastelands on the current screenshots are just work-in-progress and will be filled. Other represent unpopulated areas (like the Alps). Other seem empty for no good reason.

[Samus]

Yeah making most of the Alps unpassable is Fine with me. But hopefully the rest gets filled in.

[Captain_Narol]

Hannibal objects about the Alps being unpassable !

Fool Romans !

[Samus]

Originally posted by Captain_Narol:

Hannibal objects about the Alps being unpassable !

Fool Romans !

"He would Lose half his army! I dare say that would be quite a feat! even for the Great Hannibal barca!"

[OneMore]

If you watch the first dev diary you can see that most of the area is filled in

[Saor]

they will all be left blank so they can pump out dlc adding each bit of the map they leave blank at launch

[SAiMO]

Originally posted by Saor:

they will all be left blank so they can pump out dlc adding each bit of the map they leave blank at launch

This isn't creative assembly mate, go watch the first dev diary.

[Saor]

Originally posted by Feelinit:

Originally posted by Saor:

they will all be left blank so they can pump out dlc adding each bit of the map they leave blank at launch

This isn't creative assembly mate, go watch the first dev diary.

No this is Paradox , a company that pumps out more dlc than any other many of which could easliy have been in the base games, CA pale in comparison to paradox dlc policy

[Captain_Narol]

Paradox games are delivered complete in term of factions, contrary to CA games.

I was quite mad at CA when I saw all the factions that were missing in Rome 2 and that you had to buy in DLC. They even dared to do Day-One DLC, that's just not acceptable from a consumer standpoint.

DLC for Paradox games, at the contrary, add new mecanisms and new content, that are developped over the lifetime of those games and often in response to community feedback and requests.

IMHO, this is the right way to do DLC.

[Zyme]

Originally posted by Saor:

Originally posted by Feelinit:

This isn't creative assembly mate, go watch the first dev diary.

No this is Paradox , a company that pumps out more dlc than any other many of which could easliy have been in the base games, CA pale in comparison to paradox dlc policy

And they support and update their games for 5+ years. Name one other company that does this instead of releasing Call of Assassins 1 2 3 4 5 6 at $60 each?

But poor people will always cry because they feel they are entitled to free updates for life.

The DLCs are optional to buy btw, you are aware of this right?

[Saor]

Originally posted by Zyme:

Originally posted by Saor:

No this is Paradox , a company that pumps out more dlc than any other many of which could easliy have been in the base games, CA pale in comparison to paradox dlc policy

And they support and update their games for 5+ years. Name one other company that does this instead of releasing Call of Assassins 1 2 3 4 5 6 at $60 each?

But poor people will always cry because they feel they are entitled to free updates for life.

The DLCs are optional to buy btw, you are aware of this right?

You are aware i am a long time paradox customer who owns most of their games and many of the dlc , that doesnt stop me from criticizing the dlc whoring they do , maybe if you looked at things objectivly instead of being a blind fan boy you would get on better...

[Zyme]

Originally posted by Saor:

Originally posted by Zyme:

And they support and update their games for 5+ years. Name one other company that does this instead of releasing Call of Assassins 1 2 3 4 5 6 at $60 each?

But poor people will always cry because they feel they are entitled to free updates for life.

The DLCs are optional to buy btw, you are aware of this right?

You are aware i am a long time paradox customer who owns most of their games and many of the dlc , that doesnt stop me from criticizing the dlc whoring they do , maybe if you looked at things objectivly instead of being a blind fan boy you would get on better...

I'm not a fanboi. I buy the DLC on sales. I'm not stupid either which makes me understand why they use this DLC strategy and why it is better than Call of Duty.

I rather buy DLC and improve a game for 10 years than buy Assassins Creed 10 times. Stellaris was bad at launch but has improved massively since then. The DLC and updates will make it a good game eventually. Just like EU4 is a good game now.

Do I want to buy Stellaris 1,2,3,4,5 at $30 once per year? No.

Do I want to force everyone I know to buy every sequel so we can play? No.

Do I want incremental updates to the base game, with new features, content and improvements? Yes.

Do I want to play with my friends for free who do not want to invest in buying every single DLC? Yes.

Updates are not free. Understand this.

[Captain_Narol]

But No Man's Sky's updates are all free !!! How are they doing ?

(seriously, I wonder... As updating a game regularly is indeed costly in human ressources)

[Zyme]

The developers of NMS are like 10-15 people, while Paradox have 150+ people plus different studios.

[Renown]

NMS also promised stuff they didn't deliver on release, their update strategy is less about getting players to buy the game, or getting players to continue... it's about getting people who bought it to come back... Otherwise the company is dead in the water as no one will buy their stuff in the future.

I'm so sick of hearing comparisons between CA and Paradox. I'm also a little sick of the complaints about CA. (Everyone demands more unique units per faction and then complain when it's released piecemeal as DLC... it's like they forgot that the original TWs from Shogun, Medieval, to Rome, to M2TW all had copy and paste units from faction to faction with minor changes).

CA has major issues with their company in regards to AI development. So does Paradox, however seeing as that's an issue with EVERY GAME COMPANY they are hardly unique in that regard.