Latin localization: when?

[fogandsteel]

I am even willing to buy it as a DLC.

[Letarsier]

Well, they should at first decently localize the languages that are supposed to be ...

[The Former]

I haven't seen talk of Latin in Imperator since pre-launch. It's good we're back to the discussions that matter after so many years of people unfairly trashing the game.

[fogandsteel]

I think Paradox has all the necessary resources to pull this off, and considering the content of the game, it will be beyond appropriate.

Plus it will be a massive PR feat for the company because Paradox will be able to say that they made the first strategy game in Latin. This s*** will be in the news, guaranteed, boosting company's profile and sales (including of its other titles) and solidifying the company's position as the leader in the field of historical strategy games development.

[Letarsier]

Originally posted by fognsteel:

I think Paradox has all the necessary resources to pull this off, and considering the content of the game, it will be beyond appropriate.

Plus it will be a massive PR feat for the company because Paradox will be able to say that they made the first strategy game in Latin. This s*** will be in the news, guaranteed, boosting company's profile and sales (including of its other titles) and solidifying the company's position as the leader in the field of historical strategy games development.

They will not do it, since localization made by a professional may cost some thousands €, BUT if it happens to some modder to make such a task, they will take the credit, put it forward as a sale argument and give the modder a dlc pack and grant him an interview :D

[fogandsteel]

Yeah, I would do it myself. Unfortunately, my Latin can be classified as intermediate at best. Thought it would be cool to learn Latin while playing a game dedicated in large part to Roman empire. I've spent probably 1,000 hours on CK II. You can learn a lot of new words over the course of 1,000 hours.

[Ghost Of Capybara]

Originally posted by fognsteel:

Yeah, I would do it myself. Unfortunately, my Latin can be classified as intermediate at best. Thought it would be cool to learn Latin while playing a game dedicated in large part to Roman empire. I've spent probably 1,000 hours on CK II. You can learn a lot of new words over the course of 1,000 hours.

I have little experience, but I've heard from a German guy I know that he basically learned english via Paradox games, I think EU4 mostly. How cool would it be to know the basic controls of Imperator, have it in latin, and subconsciously learn latin while playing the game? Maybe I'm just oversimplifying how it works, but I would for sure give it a try.

[fogandsteel]

A little bit of grounding in Latin beforehand wouldn't hurt, and there are textbooks and other resources (e.g., Youtube channels) available for that. After that it's mostly building up your vocabulary, just like in any other language. And it's more fun if you do it while playing a game.

IMHO, Paradox is wasting a tremendous opportunity. From my observations, there has been a resurgence of interest in Latin over the last few years, so there is a growing customer base for products in Latin language. One of the Youtube channels dedicated to Latin language (latintutorial) has close to 74,000 subscribers. You know, that's way more than the current player base of Imperator: Rome.

[Ghost Of Capybara]

Originally posted by fognsteel:

A little bit of grounding in Latin beforehand wouldn't hurt, and there are textbooks and other resources (e.g., Youtube channels) available for that. After that it's mostly building up your vocabulary, just like in any other language. And it's more fun if you do it while playing a game.

IMHO, Paradox is wasting a tremendous opportunity. From my observations, there has been a resurgence of interest in Latin over the last few years, so there is a growing customer base for products in Latin language. One of the Youtube channels dedicated to Latin language (latintutorial) has close to 74,000 subscribers. You know, that's way more than the current player base of Imperator: Rome.

Don't forget Duolingo added latin a while back, while it's probably not the best way to learn I tried it and it was decent. I just can't learn a language very well that way, but knowing the basics and using games for the rest, I could see that happening.

[fogandsteel]

Yeah, I actually did the Duolingo Latin course as a refresher a couple weeks ago. The idea is good, but in its current stage it is a half-baked product: the words do not display macrons for long vowels (crucial for beginners), there are a number of mispronunciations, the last few lessons lack explanations (no "Tips" tab), and more topics and explanations can be added. It is definitely better than nothing but has a long way to go towards the finished product.

So if you felt like you struggled with this course, that is not your fault. The course objectively needs a lot of polishing. And even after that is done, students still need to practice speaking with someone (which is unrealistic to implement in a self-study course).

[Ghost Of Capybara]

Originally posted by fognsteel:

Yeah, I actually did the Duolingo Latin course as a refresher a couple weeks ago. The idea is good, but in its current stage it is a half-baked product: the words do not display macrons for long vowels (crucial for beginners), there are a number of mispronunciations, the last few lessons lack explanations (no "Tips" tab), and more topics and explanations can be added. It is definitely better than nothing but has a long way to go towards the finished product.

So if you felt like you struggled with this course, that is not your fault. The course objectively needs a lot of polishing. And even after that is done, students still need to practice speaking with someone (which is unrealistic to implement in a self-study course).

Originally posted by fognsteel:

Yeah, I actually did the Duolingo Latin course as a refresher a couple weeks ago. The idea is good, but in its current stage it is a half-baked product: the words do not display macrons for long vowels (crucial for beginners), there are a number of mispronunciations, the last few lessons lack explanations (no "Tips" tab), and more topics and explanations can be added. It is definitely better than nothing but has a long way to go towards the finished product.

So if you felt like you struggled with this course, that is not your fault. The course objectively needs a lot of polishing. And even after that is done, students still need to practice speaking with someone (which is unrealistic to implement in a self-study course).

I guess I should explain, but the reason why I would love latin in Imperator for example, is I pretty much know the basics, but I just can't learn a language, both memory and laziness to blame, for the life of me. Four years of forced Spanish is maybe to blame. But, I have learned many things from paradox games because they repeat so often that I would otherwise not know because it is a fun way to learn them.