How to become empire?

[Orxan]

I am great power with over 500 cities but still not empire.
do i have to switch to dictatorship?

[Iskander]

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe you need to be a monarchy (maybe dictatorship will do). And again: not 100% sure, but I believe you need to have 1000 cities, not 500.

[LonelyCookie]

..Just look at the requirements for the decision

[Ghost Of Capybara]

Pretty sure Iskander is right, because as Rome you can't claim Empire, but as someone like the Seleucids or Maurya you can.

[Orxan]

Escrito originalmente por LonelyCookie:

..Just look at the requirements for the decision

If I had the decision I would

[Ghost Of Capybara]

Escrito originalmente por Papirus:

Escrito originalmente por LonelyCookie:

..Just look at the requirements for the decision

If I had the decision I would

Who are you playing as?

[Yukiko]

You need 600 Citys

[Ghost Of Capybara]

Escrito originalmente por Yukiko:

You need 600 Citys

I think he is asking why he can't form it at all, because as he mentioned he would check if he had the decision but he does not. I am wondering what he is playing, because as the person earlier said, it might be only a monarchy thing.

[Orxan]

Escrito originalmente por Finlands President:

Escrito originalmente por Papirus:

If I had the decision I would

Who are you playing as?

I am playing as Albania,currently Republic,I guess changing to monarchy or dictatorship would fix it

[Ghost Of Capybara]

Escrito originalmente por Papirus:

Escrito originalmente por Finlands President:

Who are you playing as?

I am playing as Albania,currently Republic,I guess changing to monarchy or dictatorship would fix it

Yeah, don't think Republics can form an Empire.

[rakovsky]

Is it better to have an Empire or a Republic?

I currently have a Democratic Republic, playing as Slavia in the Invictus Mod. I started the game as Melanchlaenia (a Slavic migrant tribe), then "formed Slavia", then settled, then formed a Democratic Republic. Slavia's three political parties are: Oligarchists, Traditionalists, and Democrats. I don't know if any of those three are capable of announcing a dictatorship that I can use to form an empire. As a Republic, I only have 3 Idea slots available, but I see that there are graphics for 4 Idea slots, so I'm guessing that the game treats "empires" as more "advanced" than Republics.

Modern scholarship treats the Republic as a more advanced stage of political development, as in this kind of simplistic overall scheme for Western Europe's development:
Primitive tribes like Celtic Gaul -> Empires like Rome -> Kingdoms like Charlemagne's -> Republics like modern France has.

But the game's progression seems to be:
Migrant Tribes -> Settled Tribes -> Monarchies or Republics -> Empires formed directly only from Monarchies

[galadon3]

Don't confuse todays "republics" wich are modern democracies with the roman republic wich was pretty much the oligarchic rule of a very limited number of people.
The say the roman plebs had in affairs of the state was pretty much limited to electing the tribunes of the people and in the late republic those were often pretty corupt.

Well that is pretty much the way it went with rome, the old republican system showed pretty soon that it was rather ill equiped to rule far flung territories.
If you compare romes republic with todays democracies, you forget that the roman republic as many traits of an oligarchy, besides the peoples tribunes (and thats an institution that starts to fail somewhat when rome starts to get bigger), pretty much every position of power in the state is limited to the senatorial class.
Wich creates the problem that the same people competing over control of the power within the state are the same you have to trust with wielding civilan and military power in the provinces as romes power grew, ultimately leading to the big civil wars (pretty much starting with Marius and Sulla and ending with the triumvirates).

Some of those problems ofc persisted in the empire and you see them arise every time an emperor is either weak or the transistion of power between emperors doesn't go well, but at least competent emperors were able to control the various powerfull figures throughout the empire, while many of those were pretty ambitious too, the emperors usually drew them not from the senatorial class, preventing the combination of generation-old wealth and the power of an important political / military office.

[rakovsky]

Thanks for responding. What I meant to ask was, in the game, is it better to play with an Empire or a Republic?

You are saying that the Roman Republic was an Oligarchic Republic because regular citizens didn't have much political power compared to today's parliamentary republics. The game allows for both Oligarchic Republic and Democratic Republics, and I chose the latter.

[Jean-Maurice Nya]

It is called "Imperial Ambition", you need between 500 and 800 territories depending on your regime, and with a ruler above 90 popularity. Either be a monarchy or a dictatorship (even for a few years, they shouldn't be any need for any kind of law).
The only other way to form it is to have an autocratic monarchy, 80 territories and a leader with specific trait.

[rakovsky]

+1