Free DLC For Next 4 Years?

[Toki]

Does Paradox intend to address the negative reception by fixing the mana system and making all DLC for the game into DLC where it's optional to pay for it?
So people are given the ability to pay for the DLC or to choose to receive it for free.

I don't imagine majority of the consumers would dislike this approach by them.

[comsubpac]

Take a look at the roadmap.

[Nats]

Not likely (thought I would get my answer in quickly before this thread gets locked).

[Ghetzi]

Yeah! Not only are they giving everyone free DLC, but I just got a text from Johan saying he intends to put everyone's firstborn through university, too. Crazy, right?

[Zsrai]

Originally posted by Thos:

So people are given the ability to pay for the DLC or to choose to receive it for free.

What? How does that even make sense?

[Captain_Narol]

Basically, that would work like Shareware : Pay-What-You-Want.

Not sure that would work well for DLC, and anyway the major patches whose purpose is to fix the base game will be free.

[Toki]

Originally posted by Zsrai:

Originally posted by Thos:

So people are given the ability to pay for the DLC or to choose to receive it for free.

What? How does that even make sense?

Well. Imagine a table full of muffins and a large glass jar.
"Take a muffin and pay if you want to pay." is written on the jar.
You can choose to pay if you want and you can choose to take a muffin if you want a muffin.

[Taiwan Number One]

I'm not sure if I agree with the pay-if-you-want suggestion, but I do agree that Paradox needs to do something about the DLC issue as it's one the most common complaints. Include minor cosmetics(portrait packs, clothing packs, et cetera) with expansions they are related to, and reduce the cost of DLCs in general.

[SIR_Quak_A_Lot]

depends on their speed. if they work in this speed they have to fix the game for more as 4 years but actually this has nothing to do with dlcs since it's just a fix of missing content.

[vapid capybara]

Once the artist and the engineer in the developer's head agree on it without any issue, that's when side-ventures to create smaller projects like a steppe nomadic distinction from a hills tribe migration would spawn. It'd become a full fledged project with studio assets such as artists creating proto-scythian art about burial mounds or 3d artists creating yurts and troop models like the Thracian heavy infantry carry a falx, a weapon almost exclusive to modern-day areas of Romania/Hungary/Bulgaria/Constantinople. To my knowledge only the Odryssians and the Thraki carry the falx on any ingame models. They might end up getting free DLC aimed at them because they're technically diadochi and that content was already sold.

[Zsrai]

Originally posted by Thos:

Originally posted by Zsrai:

What? How does that even make sense?

Well. Imagine a table full of muffins and a large glass jar.
"Take a muffin and pay if you want to pay." is written on the jar.
You can choose to pay if you want and you can choose to take a muffin if you want a muffin.

Yeah that still makes zero sense in this situation. Quite like the muffin example, the vast majority will just take the muffin with nothing put into the jar. It's not sustainable for a business to operate like that in the slightest.

[Hexatorium]

In their one year plan announcement to *fix* Imperator, they went ahead and announced two paid pieces of DLC alongside their plans to fix their broken-ass game. A content pack, and some kinda proper DLC. The balls on these devs are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ massive, I swear.

[xXxHussarxXx]

The dislike for this game is insane. Is it a perfect game? No but it does not deserve a 30% positive rating. Yeah bro they're gonna give you all the DLCs for free right after they pay for your student loans. You've got CA basically creating expansion packs(Three kingdoms and Britannia) while selling them as full games and their fanbase never complains about it. Meanwhile people are continuously ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on this game even though its a decent game.

[Hexatorium]

Originally posted by Hakob:

The dislike for this game is insane. Is it a perfect game? No but it does not deserve a 30% positive rating. Yeah bro they're gonna give you all the DLCs for free right after they pay for your student loans. You've got CA basically creating expansion packs(Three kingdoms and Britannia) while selling them as full games and their fanbase never complains about it. Meanwhile people are continuously ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on this game even though its a decent game.

Did you not see the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that was Britannia? Also, on CA's part, that's a fairly new thing for them. Paradox been ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it's customers for probably a decade now.

Additionally, in defence of CA, they don't release a broken ass game, and in their announcements to fix it they include announcements for DLC. No, CA actually has some shred of decency.

[xXxHussarxXx]

Originally posted by Hexatorium:

Originally posted by Hakob:

The dislike for this game is insane. Is it a perfect game? No but it does not deserve a 30% positive rating. Yeah bro they're gonna give you all the DLCs for free right after they pay for your student loans. You've got CA basically creating expansion packs(Three kingdoms and Britannia) while selling them as full games and their fanbase never complains about it. Meanwhile people are continuously ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on this game even though its a decent game.

Did you not see the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that was Britannia? Also, on CA's part, that's a fairly new thing for them. Paradox been ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it's customers for probably a decade now.

Additionally, in defence of CA, they don't release a broken ass game, and in their announcements to fix it they include announcements for DLC. No, CA actually has some shred of decency.

Why did games like CK2 and Hearts of Iron get so many good reviews compared to IR? Hearts of iron is basically "Build factories and go to war" but nobody cared about that. Again, CA is basically releasing expansions backs with a really good engine instead of making huge games like Med 3 but none of their users complain about it.

[Hexatorium]

Originally posted by Hakob:

Originally posted by Hexatorium:

Did you not see the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that was Britannia? Also, on CA's part, that's a fairly new thing for them. Paradox been ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it's customers for probably a decade now.

Additionally, in defence of CA, they don't release a broken ass game, and in their announcements to fix it they include announcements for DLC. No, CA actually has some shred of decency.

Why did games like CK2 and Hearts of Iron get so many good reviews compared to IR? Hearts of iron is basically "Build factories and go to war" but nobody cared about that. Again, CA is basically releasing expansions backs with a really good engine instead of making huge games like Med 3 but none of their users complain about it.

Man, I don't know if you remember, but both HOI 4 and Stellaris launched with reviews almost as ♥♥♥♥ as I;R. That's the nature of Paradox games.

CA has been making complete games for decades now though. Case and point, Warhammer 2, and Warhammer 3 coming out next year. Britannia was a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but you can't deny that 3 Kingdoms is a fairly alright game, and definitely a great showing from CA post-Britannia. Hell, I don't like 3K at all, and I can't deny it.