Crucible..... again.

[Leech Squirrel]

I know this has been mentioned plural times before, but I feel the need to vent.

Who the bloody hell thought this would be a worthwhile addition to this awesome and already very challenging game?

I cannot stand this boss. Usually, it takes me a few weeks to calm down and forget how much it pisses me off before I play again after encountering it. It is stressful, obnoxious and not fun at all.

The only decent battles against it that I have are with an Engineer build where my constructs just murder the ♥♥♥♥ out of it quickly.

It doesn't help that I never found a comfortable balance of aim to movement. I hate using the mouse to fly but it gives the best aim, while a controller gives me the most comfortable movement but often sucks for aiming. So I go for a controller since I find the experience more enjoyable overall.

But then the bloody gosh-darned buns-fudging Crucible appears and I know that this run is most likely over and I am not going to want to play this game for days at the very least.

I wish there was an option or something to disable just one boss. I would have zero hesitation choosing which boss I never want to see.

Other bosses can be hard, and the newer bosses tend to be harder, but Crucible just sucks and makes the game worse in my opinion.

I just felt like venting before I put this game away for a while yet again, though of course I will keep coming back.

For putting Crucible into this wonderful game, I hope your pillow stays extra warm and your shoe houses a pebble once in a while, developer! And, also people should buy you some free drinks and praise the color of your pants or something because this game is quite wonderful.

BUT GRRRRRR!

[Ribbons0121R121]

have you tried:not turning on nemesis
also the easiest way to beat this boss is not panic and sit on the far left or right of the screen, focus on disabling the 3 orbs
after the orbs are killed then it cant do things besides throw things vaguely in your direction

[Botji]

Viper is also a fairly quick way to say NO to Crucible.

Give it a Boop with Deflagration and you might pop it instantly with a few upgrades to your crash damage(Caustic Barrier damage scales quite hard with crash damage for some reason).

Viper is a nice ship, I want more people to use it!

[Leech Squirrel]

I've been able to kill it even somewhat consistently lately, but I still hate the area denial damage combined with projectiles everywhere.

I realized that the laser walls only hurt you but do not impede movement, which helps. But trying to see how much damage you're taking while dodging everything sucks.

How do you sit in the far right of the screen without the myriad projectiles hitting you?

And I am very fond of The Viper and am trying to get it to work well with shieldless burn builds. Nothing amazing so far, but I like it.

It still is a huge morale drop when I see it and I still hate this boss more than any other. I do not enjoy this fight at all.

[Botji]

Originally posted by Leech Squirrel:

And I am very fond of The Viper and am trying to get it to work well with shieldless burn builds. Nothing amazing so far, but I like it.

Explosive Growth Masochism, 3x Hypermetas, Revelation Defiance + 3-5 more(6-8 total) then go ham on Solar Hearts.

Still need a bunch of normal mods too ofc like hull upgrades, Adaptive Armor and some mobility so its not all that easy to get the build going but Self Damage Resist is imo extremely undervalued and when brought up to 80+% allows for some crazy burn damage.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3000448725

The 'true' build is even worse to get fully functioning, using Thermal Lance, Bastion combined with a bunch of shield mods, Rancor and Charged Shield to push all damage resistances to more or less their hardcap which allows for even more Solar Hearts.

Near constant 75% hull DR and I think its 92-93% Self DR... even 110 self damage ends up being just under 9 damage but the high damage feeds Adaptive Armor, Rancor and Charged Shield almost creating a loop of increasing self damage = increasing regeneration(Adaptive Armor/Channeling).


Everything melts.

[yivrneyakumo]

for the bullet spray, move slowly around the crucible. for the homing orbs, go fast and go to the other side, use your wall bounces. when cruci gets to the orb spam phase, stay calm and read the patterns. crucible is very predictable. Grazing one orb will not kill you.

[BrziKorak]

Originally posted by Leech Squirrel:

It still is a huge morale drop when I see it and I still hate this boss more than any other. I do not enjoy this fight at all.

Probably the one part of Crucible threads I will always agree with. Being able to reliably clear this boss is completely beside the point - a lot of builds are just not fun to play against it. And the 300+ wave version is even worse due to how massively sped up all the attacks are.

[Botji]

Originally posted by BrziKorak:

Originally posted by Leech Squirrel:

It still is a huge morale drop when I see it and I still hate this boss more than any other. I do not enjoy this fight at all.

Probably the one part of Crucible threads I will always agree with. Being able to reliably clear this boss is completely beside the point - a lot of builds are just not fun to play against it. And the 300+ wave version is even worse due to how massively sped up all the attacks are.

That is the only thing I can agree on with the Crucible complaints, the 300+ versions of it can be very rough just for how fast everything happens and how insane damage scaling is with the constant damage sources, aka most of its attacks.

But its again mostly a case of having patience, 9/10 times I die to it is because I tried to force the issue and kill it ASAP with a build that did not have that kind of damage rather than just picking it apart like a smart person would.

Levi or slow builds are kinda F though which is a complaint I have had with the game for a long time, there is no "slow but tanky" way to build if you expect to get anywhere past even 200(depends on enemies you fight ofc).

[Virgil]

I don't share your supreme distaste of the boss but I agree that it doesn't really fit the mechanics and feel of the game as much as the other foes do.

[지효]

I just wish the person who give the idea of putting Crucible in this game a massive diarrhea.

[Kepler_22]

it gets worse too. A crucible on wave 331 has orbs that move faster then the fastest LoTW build, fire faster then the fastest firing siege build, and above all else changes phases so quickly that you dont even have time to react.

That's what ended my 3.3m salvo run. it's absolutely dumb on the later waves and should go the way of "station omega" - not spawning at all except on wave 80

[satanic stan the garbage can]

I've grenaded it with success, but overall this boss is a bad, wrong design move. Every build should be playable, and many just aren't against this nonsense.

[AlterEgo45]

Yeah **** this boss. What is it doing in the game?

I get to this thing with half of my builds and I just go, gg... it's over. There's nothing I can do.

It's not even just that it's hard, but that it bends the game rules in ways that no other enemy does. Even when I kill it I don't enjoy the experience.

This game is still in EA so I hope it gets taken out. This clearly wasn't well thought out.

[Sharlatan]

always ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crucible.
Do I think its hard? no.
its just boring and not fun.

[yivrneyakumo]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3035982130
crucible is getting adjusted after all the feedback guys ~w~
the glistering update is the update after vorpal (this one with swords)

by the way yall join the discord, chimeric is much more active and responsive there
https://discord.gg/Zp2MkPJ

[Goatiplex Enterprises]

I still find it hilarious how this boss is either the hardest or the easiest boss in the game with no in between.

Some tips:

Leviathan: Tail whip it IMMEDIATELY. All the following tips mean nothing for a leviathan.

Phase 1: Stay at a screen edge trying to aim for a corner, slowly thrust across that far edge toward the other corner, if done correctly the stream of bullets will stay just behind your ship. When you reach the corner, bounce off of it and cross the bullets, it'll hurt a little but that's usually ok.
Don't get aggressive during this phase, potshots only.

Phase 2: Use the screen borders to maintain momentum by rebounding off of them, this is a decent time to put in some damage via drivebys if you are confident.
After the second ring dissipates, get to the left of Crucible and hit it hard.

Phase 3: Put a bit of distance from Crucible and pay attention to the direction it is spamming its rings, try to stay upper left when it is spamming clockwise and lower left when it is spamming counter-clockwise. This is the phase where you can do the most damage to the crucible as long as you aren't running a short ranged weapon.

Phase 1(orbless): By now there's a pretty good chance depending on your build that all the orbs are dead, you should be able to finish the fight now.