Bastion + Shielded Constructs

[elliotcoen]

I've seen some popular builds online using the Bastion shield plus Shielded Constructs but with NO other constructs used in the build. Did these two used to interact differently? Now if you take these together, nothing happens and you just lose your shield.

[anarcher]

Well the thing about that is, you get the bastion bonuses and then double dip on shielded constructs hull bonuses. It makes you quite tanky.

[elliotcoen]

But when I take both together, my shield disappears altogether and I only have Hull

[YMFTCTB]

Originally posted by elliotcoen:

But when I take both together, my shield disappears altogether and I only have Hull

yeah, thats what hes saying should happen, they both give hull buffs so you get a really strong hull but no shield

[GgWw1175]

I presume that those builds also used Conversion. You can take Shielded Constructs for the added hull and hull damage resistance, and then take Conversion to convert some of your now non-functional shields into hull. Bastion seems like the go-to option for that purpose, since it's the most durable shield, and also because the mod tree that contains Shielded Constructs doesn't appear in the mod pool if you don't have any constructs (so if you used another shield, you'd have to pick a different construct for it to show up).

[Botji]

Shielded Constructs and the bonuses you get makes it a really strong mod on its own but like GgWw1175 said above, you can also use Conversion since unlike when you take Rapid Reconstruction which completely removes the shield the shield still 'exists' and you can transfer 30% of the shield to extra hull.

Bastion unlocks the construct mods so you can get Shielded Constructs without spending any more points into getting any other constructs and it has so much shield health with the pre-req Elegant Construction that you typically dont have to spend any points on shield upgrades to be near the maximum shield health for Conversion to still convert the shield into hull, its also really easy to get the super mod Apex Machinery for some niche builds where even more shield health can be used(Leviathan) or builds where you actually get some constructs to gain benefit of the shield and/or mine damage and effect.

I use SC and Conversion fairly often since I like Essence Sap and it scales with maximum hull and I dont always get any other constructs, just the SC bonuses and Conversion are enough.

[Bozobub]

Don't forget Gemini Protocol, When using Shielded Constructs and Bastion. Gemini shares damage both ways, you see.

[Botji]

Originally posted by Bozobub:

Don't forget Gemini Protocol, When using Shielded Constructs and Bastion. Gemini shares damage both ways, you see.

What do you mean?
The whole point of Gemini is that it shares damage both ways, its not unique to Bastion or SC.

[Toan]

Originally posted by Botji:

Originally posted by Bozobub:

Don't forget Gemini Protocol, When using Shielded Constructs and Bastion. Gemini shares damage both ways, you see.

What do you mean?
The whole point of Gemini is that it shares damage both ways, its not unique to Bastion or SC.

Gemini still shares damage with your non-existent Bastion when using SC + Bastion. I don't know the specifics, but they did work together on one of my recent runs.

[Botji]

Originally posted by Toan:

Originally posted by Botji:

What do you mean?
The whole point of Gemini is that it shares damage both ways, its not unique to Bastion or SC.

Gemini still shares damage with your non-existent Bastion when using SC + Bastion. I don't know the specifics, but they did work together on one of my recent runs.

Seems really weird since I have used that combo multiple times without it sharing damage and I just tested it again and it definitely does not share damage with SC.

I mean the shield is not protecting you anymore with SC and Gemini even has in its description how it works when its on your constructs, that its the constructs hull that is getting the damage.