Well, cloud gaming is never free, since somebody has to pay for the hardware. But I don't see the use either, EVE is not the game you can play on phones, and unlike many games you can run 1 client on a cheap laptop.

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I'm quite confused about this. They claim this is a way to make the game more accesible for everyone, but then say that the service won't be free in the future...

The game still has to be calculated/rendered on their end using their hardware, and then streamed to you using their bandwidth, both of which cost money.

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Who is going to pay a second subscription for browser access instead of using that money to pay for a second Omega account?

This is going to be extremely useful for high-profile players who manage corporations, coordinate battles, and run big production chains or trade on the market. If your gameplay consists of logging in to mine or run missions for an hour, then no, this won't be of much use to you.

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And why are they developing their own solution for this instead of joining Google Stadia, like Destiny 2 has done?

If I had to guess, most likely due to security reasons. There's a lot more on the line with EVE than with some co-op RPG, and they don't want their game accessed through the infrastructure of a third party.

실행 버튼을 못찾겠는데.

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Because most of FULL free-to-play games gives more money to companies than those with subscriptions and players don't feel under obligation to do it in order to reach a certain level.
More people will join to the game, and buy much more stuff for fun without worry with a monthly tax.
That's how current models of business are now made.
Give us fun, not "obligations".

Really? Because your claim lies in stark contrast to the data put out by successful developers in the game industry, who say that the ratio of people who spend money in a free-to-play system is in the lower single digits:

https://www.mmogames.com/gamearticles/should-developers-be-more-upfront-about-mmo-costs/

https://www.mmoexaminer.com/former-star-wars-old-republic-dev-offers-thoughts-loot-boxes/

https://twitter.com/ZenOfDesign/status/930810564661702656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Which is to say that without a monthly subscription, game developers (as can be seen in many existing games) need to monetize pretty much every aspect of gameplay, including the sale of usable items and power-ups. You think that EVE would survive just on skin sales alone? Highly unlikely, as by the last count, skins made up less than 2% of their revenues.

How is League of Legends the most played game in the world then? How does it consistently make huge profits, without barriers and bs obligations.

I used to play EVE alot (both buy PLEX and trade it) , I stopped playing because it's a life killer. I did however amass some really neat stuff, I logged in nearly 9 years after during this pandemic and was absolutely blown away at how much the thing has not changed. Same and more bs barriers, MUSIC EXACTLY THE SAME. I wanted to play but when I saw the new sub model and how I COULDN'T EVEN FLY THE EXPENSIVE SHIPS I HAD ALREADY PURCHASED and I was done.

Problem is, people always defend things that they enjoy. and fair play to them. However, their business model is an outdated one with them clinging to throwing money at YT ads in the hope people take it up (sure numbers have increased during this time of great deceit) but that will naturally recede.

I am unsure as to how often you do this but try and view it through a new players eyes. Download and log in, great, now create character...oooh so much to try, what about this? Oh paywall. This one, paywall. Can I do this? Oooh only to certain level then paywall. Music sounds a bit dated too, oh well: let's do something else.

This was somewhat my experience returning, as someone who has played this game aloooottt, I didn't even leave the hanger. Say what you will, that is the reality of the situation.

who is surprised old ass game runs in browser? meh. eve 2 pls

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who is surprised old ass game runs in browser? meh. eve 2 pls

What do you mean? EVE barely runs with a full fletched client and youre saying its supposed to run on a browser because its old? World of Warcraft doesnt run in a browser, hell, even RUNESCAPE got its own client.

Btw its not exactly the browser that runs it, its in the cloud. its basically just streaming to your browser

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I used to play EVE alot (both buy PLEX and trade it) , I stopped playing because it's a life killer. I did however amass some really neat stuff, I logged in nearly 9 years after during this pandemic and was absolutely blown away at how much the thing has not changed. Same and more bs barriers, MUSIC EXACTLY THE SAME. I wanted to play but when I saw the new sub model and how I COULDN'T EVEN FLY THE EXPENSIVE SHIPS I HAD ALREADY PURCHASED and I was done.

What barriers existed 9 years ago? You couldn't play without paying a subscription, period. There were no limited features of any sort because you couldn't even log into your account without paying. So what you're saying makes no sense at all, because anything you can't do without paying today would've likewise been impossible to do without paying back then.

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I am unsure as to how often you do this but try and view it through a new players eyes. Download and log in, great, now create character...oooh so much to try, what about this? Oh paywall. This one, paywall. Can I do this? Oooh only to certain level then paywall. Music sounds a bit dated too, oh well: let's do something else.

The only things that the free mode restricts are access to Tech II/capital ships and barges, and some gear by virtue of skill caps. You're also blocked from doing PI, because it's a 100% passive activity, and if they allowed it, players would set up massive PI farms. That's it. Aside from that, no activities are restricted from you; just your potential efficiency in performing them, which has the effect of lowering your income generation, but not taking it away from you.

Your example of a new player logging in and immediately hitting "paywalls" is nonsensical as well, because it takes months to train for Tech II/capital ships, or such things as Tech II large weapons. These are not limitations that would become instantly obvious to new players.

You are vastly exaggerating the effects of the F2P limitations in EVE. Is it a perfect system? No, I believe it needs quite a bit of work and balancing in order to be equitable for both CCP and the players. But the sensationalist picture you've painted has absolutely no bearing on reality.

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I'm quite confused about this. They claim this is a way to make the game more accesible for everyone, but then say that the service won't be free in the future...

The game still has to be calculated/rendered on their end using their hardware, and then streamed to you using their bandwidth, both of which cost money.

Sorry if I was not clear enough before. I'm not saying that EVE Anywhere should be free. What I'm saying is that makes no sense to say that:

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Conceived to expand the player community of EVE Online, EVE Anywhere removes barriers for newcomers

when the increased cost of the non free service becomes a new barrier for newcomers.

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Who is going to pay a second subscription for browser access instead of using that money to pay for a second Omega account?

This is going to be extremely useful for high-profile players who manage corporations, coordinate battles, and run big production chains or trade on the market. If your gameplay consists of logging in to mine or run missions for an hour, then no, this won't be of much use to you.

I'm afraid that I'm not a high profile player, so I will have to take your word for that. :-)

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And why are they developing their own solution for this instead of joining Google Stadia, like Destiny 2 has done?

If I had to guess, most likely due to security reasons. There's a lot more on the line with EVE than with some co-op RPG, and they don't want their game accessed through the infrastructure of a third party.

Well, as you said before, the infrastructure for cloud gaming is quite expensive. And there has been a few failures in that field (there is not even guarantee that Google, Microsoft or Sony are going to succeed at it). Investing all that money, for only one game looks like a bad economic choice...

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wait so we can play eve in our browsers now? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Yes

US only for now

any yet.. you still get fully gank'd in highsec by hacker corps.

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US only for now

Теперь понятно, почему я не вижу кнопку... -__-

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when the increased cost of the non free service becomes a new barrier for newcomers.

I agree, they're not marketing this properly. Or at the very least, the way this feature ends up getting used will not be in line with their intent. This is much more useful to established players who could use remote access to manage their empires, than it is to new players just starting out.

My guess is that they're hoping that the instant accessibility will be a driving force for new player recruitment and retention, but I just don't see it happening, especially since this is going to be a paid feature. So you are right in this regard.

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. This is much more useful to established players who could use remote access to manage their empires, than it is to new players just starting out.

this.

I think this is great news. It hope it grows a new generation of citizens in New Eden.

who asked for this