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SkeL Apr 6, 2023 @ 6:19am
Cant play the game, no regional pricing for OMEGA.
Regional pricing ONLY FOR OMEGA when? (since people definitely cant read, i made it more clear where Regional pricing should be applied to)
I don't care about any item in-game that can be bought with real money, CCP can definitely keep this other stuff out of regional pricing, since I'm not interested in it and never would be, I only care about the subscription which is called Omega and won't affect the economy in-game.

Its R$107 in my country Brazil (around US$21) half the price of a triple AAA game (which is around R$200) for a monthly subscription, and more expensive than the US$20 if I bought directly from the website. While in Argentina Omega costs around US$10.
https://steamdb.info/app/695740/

Now comparing to other MMOs and Streaming Services:

Runescape - R$ 27 / US$12.5 (Very Acceptable)
World of Warcraft - R$33 / US$15 (Acceptable)
WarThunder - R$40 / US$ ? (Acceptable)
The Elder Scrolls Online - R$ 55 / US$ 15 (Kind of Expensive)
Final Fantasy - R$ ? / US$ 15 (Too Expensive)
Eve Online - R$ 107 / US$20 (Extremely Expensive)

Netflix - R$26
Amazon PrimeVideo - R$15
DisneyPlus - R$28

Subscriptions/Memberships shouldn't be above R$30 in my country, otherwise people think its not worth it.
If the price for Omega was around R$30, I would spend like R$120 to activate my 4 accounts without a problem, but paying R$107 for a single account? HELL NO!

CCP YOU ARE LOSING POTENTIAL PLAYERS!
Last edited by SkeL; Apr 10, 2023 @ 2:10pm
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Shotgun Apr 6, 2023 @ 6:57am 
They can't. The value of skill points in-game is tied to the baseline cost of a subscription. If subscriptions were much cheaper in one part of the world, players would set up skill point farms there, tanking the price of skill points in game and making them nearly worthless. Western players would have limitless access to maxed-out characters this way, and this would pretty much break the concept of progression in EVE.
SkeL Apr 6, 2023 @ 7:00am 
Originally posted by Shotgun:
They can't. The value of skill points in-game is tied to the baseline cost of a subscription. If subscriptions were much cheaper in one part of the world, players would set up skill point farms there, tanking the price of skill points in game and making them nearly worthless. Western players would have limitless access to maxed-out characters this way, and this would pretty much break the concept of progression in EVE.
From where in the heavens did you get that from? Its non-sense.
Checking SteamDB it makes even less sense, in Argentina it costs US$ 9.99, comparing to Brazil which costs US$ 21.44.
https://steamdb.info/app/695740/
Last edited by SkeL; Apr 6, 2023 @ 7:01am
Shotgun Apr 6, 2023 @ 7:14am 
That's an exception, not the rule. The reason Argentina is like that is because of their massive inflation, which has halved the value of their currency since the last EVE pricing adjustment.

You can see how the rest of the countries have a tight spread on EVE pricing, even though their economies are much weaker. People in the Philippines or Vietnam hardly make the same amount of money as in the US or Britain, but their pricing is effectively the same.

I sympathize with your position, but they won't offer true regional pricing variations because of the reason I laid out. If you don't want to believe me, that's your call.
SkeL Apr 6, 2023 @ 7:23am 
Originally posted by Shotgun:
but they won't offer true regional pricing variations
Then this game is definitely going to die eventually.
https://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
If you count the Alts out, there's probably not even 10k people playing it. While if they applied true regional pricing, those numbers would definitely skyrocket.
Sadpan Apr 10, 2023 @ 12:19pm 
Originally posted by SkeL:
Originally posted by Shotgun:
but they won't offer true regional pricing variations
Then this game is definitely going to die eventually.
https://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
If you count the Alts out, there's probably not even 10k people playing it. While if they applied true regional pricing, those numbers would definitely skyrocket.
It's not going to die because a few dozen people out of thousands can't pay to play it. That's just life. If you count the alts out, which CCP did a few years ago at one EVE fest presentation, the number of unique players exceeds 100,000. True regional pricing would not work in an MMO like this.
SkeL Apr 10, 2023 @ 12:38pm 
Originally posted by Sadpan:
True regional pricing would not work in an MMO like this.
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, this is just the same as any other MMO.
Last edited by SkeL; Apr 10, 2023 @ 12:39pm
Sadpan Apr 10, 2023 @ 1:39pm 
Originally posted by SkeL:
Originally posted by Sadpan:
True regional pricing would not work in an MMO like this.
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, this is just the same as any other MMO.
Buddy, save your money if you can't afford to play video games. You got more pressing matters than to play EVE.

Reducing the price significantly for your country would open it up to market manipulation via accounts playing on VPNs to gain this theoretical reduced regional pricing, it would flood the markets with cheap PLEX and skillpoint boosters, and would greatly devalue ISK. It's not going to happen.
SkeL Apr 10, 2023 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by Sadpan:
Originally posted by SkeL:
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, this is just the same as any other MMO.
Buddy, save your money if you can't afford to play video games. You got more pressing matters than to play EVE.

Reducing the price significantly for your country would open it up to market manipulation via accounts playing on VPNs to gain this theoretical reduced regional pricing, it would flood the markets with cheap PLEX and skillpoint boosters, and would greatly devalue ISK. It's not going to happen.
1. Money isn't the problem, I just don't feel its worth it compared to other MMOs and the amount of accounts I want to activate.

2. I know this would affect PLEX or items that can be bought with RL currency, that's why Im asking for the regional pricing ONLY FOR OMEGA, which won't have this effect on the economy since its not a item in-game, its just a subscription.

Since people can't read I made it more clear where regional pricing should be placed at.
Last edited by SkeL; Apr 10, 2023 @ 2:12pm
Shotgun Apr 10, 2023 @ 2:22pm 
Originally posted by SkeL:
2. I know this would affect PLEX or items that can be bought with RL currency, that's why Im asking for the regional pricing ONLY FOR OMEGA, which won't have this effect on the economy since its not a item in-game, its just a subscription.
Omega results in character training, and character training is what creates the skill points that power the skill point economy (injectors). If Omega becomes cheaper, the price of injectors would naturally decrease as skill points become more widely available.

I'm not saying whether that would be a good thing, or whether or not CCP should decrease Omega pricing; I'm just saying that if CCP wants to maintain the in-game economy in a certain manner, they'll take (or avoid taking) certain actions. That is to say, the reason why they don't offer regional pricing likely isn't because they don't want you to play, but because they estimate a lower company income overall if they did.

For what it's worth, I think they should create a much cheaper "non-training" Omega subscription plan that removes restrictions but doesn't result in SP accumulation, at least for certain areas with developing economies.
SkeL Apr 10, 2023 @ 2:29pm 
Your argument doesnt make sense since Argentina already have a Omega price cheaper than what i'm asking for Brazil, if people were willing to have this trouble just to ♥♥♥♥ up a game economy, they are already doing it using VPN and using Argentina.

Even if people did that, they would need thousand of accounts to have an effect in the economy.
Last edited by SkeL; Apr 10, 2023 @ 2:30pm
Shotgun Apr 10, 2023 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by SkeL:
Your argument doesnt make sense since Argentina already have a Omega price cheaper than what i'm asking for Brazil, if people were willing to have this trouble just to ♥♥♥♥ up a game economy, they are already doing it using VPN and using Argentina.
Argentina has a very high inflation rate right now. Their currency lost almost 70% of its value since the most recent EVE price adjustment, And they are doing it, just not in very big numbers, because CCP can more easily control oversight when it's limited to a single country. If an Argentinian skill point farm suddenly pops up, they will notice. But if they offer regional pricing everywhere (and let's face it, Brazil isn't the only country with a much weaker purchasing power, probably like 60% of the world is in the same boat), then it would be much harder to police.
Last edited by Shotgun; Apr 10, 2023 @ 2:37pm
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