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Mazaikel Jun 15, 2023 @ 12:28pm
Best High End Mining Ship?
I’m curious what would the best high end mining ship be? For group as well as solo play?
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Kodokuro Jun 15, 2023 @ 12:46pm 
Retriever - solo, best cargo hold but slow m3 rate bad defense
Covetor - solo, low cargo hold but best m3 rate bad defense
procurer -solo best defense, medium cargo hold medium m3 rate

Tech 2 versions are pretty much the same but with more perks and better m3 yield

I have nerver used command ships to mine so cant say if they are better in m3/min

i just know the rorqual is the best mining ship but this are not recomended for solo players becuse they are an easy target in null sec, you need corpmates willing to save you if you get attacked
Last edited by Kodokuro; Jun 15, 2023 @ 12:46pm
Myriad Jun 15, 2023 @ 3:19pm 
"Best" is situational. But if you're asking this question, you should go for the Procurer/Skiff. They're the tankiest, aside from Command/Capital ships.

The Retriever/Mackinaw are meant to stay on the belt longer, with their large ore hold, but you'll be a target since you're FAR easier to destroy than the above.

The Covetor/Hulk mine the fastest, but their small hold generally requires them to work with an Orca (or such) to dump their ore into, and are also the juiciest targets on the belt that gankers drool over. You can also jet-can mine, but that has it's own risks, as well as still being left with a large amount of ore to move.

The Orca is a Command Ship, and generally meant to support the above ships by providing boosts, protection, and a drop off point. But they can also mine solo with Drones, although not as effectively as other ships that are receiving Boosts. The only reason you'd solo mine with an Orca is if you wanted to go afk, checking back now and then to reassign your drones to different asteroids. In theory, it's an effective way to still make a little profit while you attend to RL things. But it's also dangerous. You could be jumped by 20 Destroyers while you're away and unable to react (such as sending out your powerful attack drones,) or you could be bumped away and have your drones stolen.

I've never owned a Rorqual, but apparently they used to be able to strip mine a belt in record time. I'm not sure how they are now after the changes, but they're beasts in every category, except, understandably, speed. But one thing about them is they can't enter Hi-sec. So if you dream of piloting one, you have to expect, and prepare for, people who desperately want to destroy it, and you'll get no help from Concord.
Klutch Jun 15, 2023 @ 5:17pm 
right now in my hulk with orca support i get 2000m3, 69s . It was just under 2000, and now its just over 2000 but not more than +/-50. t2 strip miners, w/ t1 charges cuz skills (not including drones, but they piss poor)
Last edited by Klutch; Jun 15, 2023 @ 5:18pm
Heathy Jun 16, 2023 @ 11:15am 
with the skiff for me I'm able to cram 3 mining upgrades on it with mining upgrades 5, with the porpoise max boosts I think were 41.6% with the t2 industrial core (+mindlink). 2115m3 every 105sec. t2 A crystals. without the core its like 38.7% boosts. I don't think its worth keeping the core cycling and just doing it when you need to compress. at least in highsec anyway.

hulk for me with 3 mining upgrades is 2614m3 every 76sec with the porpoise boosts. there is also the 3-5% highwall I only have one clone with a 3% and I wasn't sitting in it.

the hulk is super thin though it wouldn't take many catalysts to insta blap it. even if the skiff is considerably worst its much less likely to get alphaed by a small group of catalysts. if you don't want to multibox a commandship its worth joining a corp that does highsec mining fleets then you can join them and get boosts. I'd feel more safer using a hulk, if there are other hulks on grid, if everyone is using macks and skiffs its probably safer to not be the only hulk. its like herd mentality your less likely to be the one getting picked off if there are a bunch of you (in the same ship).

I don't have a mackinaw so I couldn't test it, because I can run my own compression I don't really need cargo space as much. so I can just focus on either tank or yield. the mack does sit in the middle of tank and yield but it is the better solo miner because it has more cargo space. so less trips back and forth. its not really worth trying to mine solo in a mack though you should aim to join a mining fleet and sponge boosts off them. you also then have compression, or you should do.

I don't mine ice that often so I don't have my own orca, it does have the ice compressor though so, if you're mining ice then you will want an orca over the porpoise (or a mackinaw purely for the space). the porp is only able to compress regular ore and gas. so if i mine ice i'm sponging orca buffs off someone else. and if i'm mining by myself in some random asteroid belt, I use a porpoise. I don't mine as much as I used to so it usually only when I'm like watching tv shows or something. the porpoise has quite a tiny fleet hanger so it can only really support a small group of barges before its overwhelmed. its more comfortable for me to do 1 porpoise and 1 exhumer than 2 exhumers. the in belt compression means you have little downtime.
Last edited by Heathy; Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:30pm
Sadpan Jun 16, 2023 @ 1:57pm 
Orca + multibox t1 barges
Mazaikel Jun 16, 2023 @ 4:45pm 
Thank you all for the tips ^^ I have a basic idea what I love ^^ I’m after the tankiness one, ^^
Myriad Jun 16, 2023 @ 7:18pm 
Oh, yeah. I forgot about the Porpoise, but not that it's any less good than the others. The Porpoise aligns surprisingly fast for a command ship, and has impressive speed for it's type. You'd take it places you wouldn't dare take an Orca.
Kodokuro Jun 16, 2023 @ 10:06pm 
Originally posted by Lan (Dragon Prince):
Thank you all for the tips ^^ I have a basic idea what I love ^^ I’m after the tankiness one, ^^

good choice, Just dont mine in low sec with it xD
Originally posted by Myriad:
Oh, yeah. I forgot about the Porpoise, but not that it's any less good than the others. The Porpoise aligns surprisingly fast for a command ship, and has impressive speed for it's type. You'd take it places you wouldn't dare take an Orca.
The Porpoise operates as a far more effective ore hauler than the Miasmos, too, if you can put the ISK into it.
Myriad Jun 17, 2023 @ 5:04pm 
Originally posted by The Wiggly Armed Man:
Originally posted by Myriad:
Oh, yeah. I forgot about the Porpoise, but not that it's any less good than the others. The Porpoise aligns surprisingly fast for a command ship, and has impressive speed for it's type. You'd take it places you wouldn't dare take an Orca.
The Porpoise operates as a far more effective ore hauler than the Miasmos, too, if you can put the ISK into it.
It does. It's a better all-around ore hauler in every way, but it's not only the Isk. It takes time to train into.

I also just thought of the Prospect and Endurance. They're both kinda specialized for exploring wormholes, but can be used for any dangerous territory. You wouldn't normally use them for Hi-sec mining, so if that's the OP's idea, they wouldn't fit on this list, the others will outperform them.

Their training path takes you far out of the way, and isn't beneficial to anything else. So they're a commitment. Basically they're agile and stealthy, each with their own specialized perks, and both have great survivability if you're paying attention, and quite the opposite if you're not.
MegaKootz Jun 18, 2023 @ 12:19pm 
Using a catalyst to kill a well tanked procurer... PRICELESS.
Myriad Jun 18, 2023 @ 1:15pm 
Originally posted by MegaKootz:
Using a catalyst to kill a well tanked procurer... PRICELESS.
A single Catalyst? I wouldn't say priceless, but instead question your authenticity. But giving the benefit of the doubt, I'd say the pilot was asleep. And even then, you're talking about Hi-sec in a 0.6 system right? You only have a short time to get through the EHP before you're blapped by Concord. In Low or Null, you could potentially chip away at anything, which isn't really a great feat at all.

It's been a while since I've flown a Proc, but I've gotten my Skiffs upwards to 70k EHP and could eat a Catalyst for breakfast. Also, what is "well tanked" in your opinion. In my experience, many people don't have a clue how to 'well tank' anything, and/or just choose not to in favour of better mining yield. Either way, if memory serves, even with 5 light attack drones, the Caty is going to be eaten alive before it can destroy a 'well tanked' Proc.
Shotgun Jun 18, 2023 @ 2:21pm 
You need 7 T2-fit Catalysts to kill a properly tanked Procurer in a 0.6.
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