PvP

[Doc]

Howdy all

Coming back to the game after a few months away, only about 95 hours spent on Eve so far, most of it has been spent farming. While I do enjoy the game, I do not enjoy the PvE play style. I would very much like to get into PvP in any capacity. Where do I start? Any groups that would take me in, considering how new I am?

[N3tRunn3r]

EVE OFFLINE is completely anti-solo and anti-PvE focused and everything important limited and even neccessary stuff is behind a paywall and true Pay2Win .. this especially has evolved like that to today since EVE OFFLINE has gone free-2-play some years ago, and the game studio sold-off to an asian company afterwards

so .. yeah, you need to be inside a fleet ... and do Pay2Win stuff as an OMEGA account . . .

open chat in-game, search and open the correct help or recruitment channel, ask there to being invited into an active whatever fleet .. in-game there also exists an explicit recruitment feature to search and apply for fleets who offer or are specialized into PvP, nullsec, PvE, mining, processing & manufacturing, trading & courier, etc . . .

as a f2p-player aka ALPHA-player you are highly restricted anyways ... however, you need to join a fleet or one of their smaller wings / alliances which act within wormholes, nullsec and sometimes in lowsec ...

in general fleets search for players with minimum 5 million skill points on account ... so as a F2P-player you need to have everything unlocked and researched first and even a bit more

. . . OMEGA-players are preferred of course, while ALPHA-players with about 5 million skill points are non-impacting cannon fodder and the lowest tier .. of course ..

and then always this crappy FOMO bs applied .. ccp rarely do events in where you gain maybe 15 PLEX or 50 Evermarks, or receiving 5 days of OMEGA, completely without a significance and meaning, just to lure back a handful of players into EVE OFFLINE to fake and boost up whatever statistics . . . whole and fully 15 PLEX ..

.. and the removal of major gains from Project Discovery, completely useless for years. back in the days for a month you could farm PD for enough PLEX for a 30-days OMEGA account .. and by this to help real scientists and researchers in meantime as PD is real stuff

high-sec and low-sec are dead . . . no reliable ISK income for ALPHAs anymore, and not to mention for solo and/or PvE players .. !!

some latest changes and patches killed solo and PvE gaming even more ... !! for example Level 4 PvE missions are already locked behind OMEGA ... Abyssal PvE is now more lucrative to PvP griefers since a latest major update, and and and

https://steamcommunity.com/ogg/8500/announcements/detail/532092240505342421

good luck .. in P2W EVE OFFLINE ..

gonna wait for EVE Vanguard ..


" .. in rust we trust .. " - as we had once said

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[Shotgun]

The above post is a (possibly unintentional) mischaracterization of the genuine and serious issues affecting this game.

EVE Online's development track for the past 5 years has been almost exclusively focused on PvE content, with the initial seeds for the transition in focus having been planted around 2011-2014, when the original development team was mostly replaced due to attrition. This doesn't mean, however, that the type and gameplay of said PvE is beneficial to and enjoyable by the players. CCP has effectively (and intentionally) transitioned this game from being an open-world PvP MMO to being an on-rails, episodic content delivery system in which open-world PvP is still possible, but is generally so punishing that the vast majority of players avoid it, even when they're the aggressors.

What is being described as "P2W" above isn't what we traditionally understand to be P2W in games. EVE's unique approach to generating revenue relies on enticing players to run as many paid accounts as possible, instead of making the sorts of cash shop purchases that are traditionally ascribed to P2W monetization schemes. That said, while running additional accounts concurrently is more difficult, it does confer an advantage.

Since I started playing over two decades ago (on and off), I've predominantly been a solo/small-scale PvPer. This has become nearly impossible to sustain in the last few years due to gameplay changes and how CCP has decided to monetize the game. If you want to PvP, you will be relegated to finding a suitable group of players, but every day there are fewer and fewer such players in the game; most people focus on farming PvE content in a never-ending, cyclical grind to make enough money to be able to afford more accounts with which to farm and grind more PvE. As a PvP player in most scenarios, you will be asked to use as many accounts as possible in engagements that rarely happen unless an unbeatable numerical superiority is achieved.

- High-sec space wars have been gutted
- Ganking has been made so difficult that only a small number of gankers remains
- Low-sec, wormhole space, and Pochven are empty
- Null-sec is full of bots and farmers who never engage unless they can out-blob you

PvP in EVE isn't completely dead yet, but it is on its deathbed. This game is more or less being developed like a mobile game now. The most recent UI update reflects that. The way that CCP markets episodic content and runs regular login reward campaigns reflects that. Even the art direction reflects that.

You can still experience EVE PvP, but it will be nothing like when the game was at its peak. It will most likely involve you being part of a large group, and a whole lot of waiting. Players like me are still able to squeak by and get some smaller engagements and solo kills by virtue of having a lot of experience, but this door is now closed to most players, as they don't possess the kind of encyclopedic knowledge of the game to be able to orchestrate such engagements.

[Verios44]

quite alot of negativity in here. With that said, yes PVP is hard solo/ small gang, but in retrospect its always been that way. Its not impossible.

Even in the big null block groups you can easily find small gang content.

As per recommendations, ev en as an alpha I would recommend nullsec.

paneemic horde inc
brave newbies inc
karmafleet
I have no good knowledge of lowsec or wormhole groups to recommend.

those would be my top nullsec corp recommendations that accept new players, and alphas.

[Kodokuro]

best ship in eve is friendship so dont pvp alone

[Shotgun]

Originally posted by Verios44:

paneemic horde inc
brave newbies inc
karmafleet
I have no good knowledge of lowsec or wormhole groups to recommend.

those would be my top nullsec corp recommendations that accept new players, and alphas.

Here's my experience with PH/Brave/etc:

- Visit them in their null home, they talk smack while forming a massive response blob, then talk more smack after killing you 120 vs. 1 or if you decline to engage and fly away

- Declare war on them in empire space, they show up the next day to take down your HQ with a 200-man fleet (while talking a lot of smack) in order to forcefully end the war ASAP so their members can continue to AFK-pilot through high-sec

I don't view joining groups like this as a positive recommendation for someone wanting to "do PvP" in EVE. It's basically a life of blobbing your enemies, and refusing engagements if the enemies have a larger blob than yours.

Originally posted by Kodokuro:

best ship in eve is friendship so dont pvp alone

Solo PvP has been a major component of EVE gameplay for many years, so telling someone that it's effectively not an option is a confirmation that the game has changed for the worse.

[Urm the Mad]

There's a fantastic tool for finding corporations based on activities, timezones, areas of operation. You will find an avalanche of people willing to teach a rookie how to PvP.

[Doc]

Originally posted by Urm the Mad:

There's a fantastic tool for finding corporations based on activities, timezones, areas of operation. You will find an avalanche of people willing to teach a rookie how to PvP.

whats the tool called

[Urm the Mad]

Originally posted by Doc:

Originally posted by Urm the Mad:

There's a fantastic tool for finding corporations based on activities, timezones, areas of operation. You will find an avalanche of people willing to teach a rookie how to PvP.

whats the tool called

I think it's literally the corporation finder. You'll find it in the Social tab ingame

[Krido]

Many corporations takes in Alpha pilots and teach them how to play + fund ships and skillbooks. You can do a lot in Eve as Alpha, way more in group but solo is possible.

English Help - go to that ingame channel for help without being scammed.

Also depsite what others may said, there is no pay2win in this game. Its learn to win. If you buy sub, buy plex for real money and exchange it on market for isk, you still will loss ship that you put money in because you wont be able to fly it properly.

A lot of expensive ships has been destroyed by skilled players in "trash T1 ships".