Any tips for a new player?

[Kermit the Gangsta]

Gonna give this game a try. Looking for a few tips for a new player, and yes, I tried youtube...but most of them are years old or...very not informative. XD

[Shotgun]

• Finish the tutorial and the career agents
  
• Train combat skills on your first character and do combat PvE and trading for income
  
• Mining sucks until you know how to play and can do it at scale—avoid it when new
  
• Play the game socially—maybe join a new player-friendly group like EVE University
  
• Don't be afraid of PvP, don't be afraid to PvP, and don't whine when you lose ships
  
• Your best friend as a new player: https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page
  
• Follow a referral link to get a free 1 million skill points, but don't redeem it until you pass the 1 million skill point mark because it counts against your free training limit if you're going to spend your first few months as a free-to-play player (but if you sub right away, then it doesn't matter)

[steventirey]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Shotgun:

• Finish the tutorial and the career agents

To add a bit to that one, if you still feel like you need some help with the basics (or just want more loot and ships), there are 3 sets of agents per empire, and you can do them for all 4 empires. So thats 12 sets pf career agents worth of stuff if you really wanted to do that.

[The collective will]

To make a lot of ISK (the in-game currency of EVE Online) early on, here are some strategies to consider:

Mission Running: Completing missions for non-player characters (NPCs) can be a profitable venture, especially in the early stages of the game. Missions offer ISK rewards, loot, and sometimes valuable blueprint copies. The difficulty of missions increases as you progress, but they can provide a steady income stream.
Mining: Mining is the process of extracting resources from asteroids. In the beginning, you can start with basic mining equipment and gradually upgrade to more advanced mining ships and modules. Selling the mined resources on the market can generate ISK. Joining a mining corporation or venturing into null-security space for higher-value ores can increase your profitability.
Trading: Buying low and selling high is a common strategy in EVE Online. Analyze the market trends, identify profitable trade routes, and engage in buying and selling goods. Trading requires market research, patience, and understanding of supply and demand dynamics.
Exploration: Exploring the vast reaches of space can lead to valuable discoveries. Scan down cosmic signatures, wormholes, and anomalies to find hidden sites that contain valuable loot, salvage, or datacores. Relic and data sites can provide valuable items that can be sold for ISK.
Manufacturing and Industry: EVE Online has a complex industrial system. By gathering resources, researching blueprints, and setting up production facilities, you can manufacture goods and sell them for profit. Understanding supply chains, market demand, and production efficiency is crucial for success in industry.
Joining Player Corporations: Being part of a player corporation can provide various opportunities for making ISK. You can participate in group activities such as incursions, fleet operations, and faction warfare, which offer rewards and shared profits. Corporations can also provide guidance, resources, and mentorship to help you navigate the game and increase your earning potential.
Remember that EVE Online is a game with a steep learning curve, and making significant amounts of ISK requires time, effort, and strategy. Experiment with different activities, learn from experienced players, and adapt your approach as you gain more knowledge and experience in the game.

[Crosstrek]

get a credit card

[ChickenDemon 666]

Don't listen to shotgun... mining is fairly easy... i made over 200 mil a day as a free player....

[Myriad]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Angler 2023:

Don't listen to shotgun... mining is fairly easy... i made over 200 mil a day as a free player....

You're leaving out an important detail... how long did you continuously mine for? Did you get up in the morning and start mining until late that same evening? Many people don't have that time to put into a game.

I'm a seasoned miner (among other things,) with lvl 5 skills and an Orca. And at a time when I had a couple alts on the go in Exhumers, I probably made 500+ mil one evening while drinking and staying up all night till the birds started chirping, in a island system surrounded by low sec. Don't quote me on those figures, I haven't really played in over a year, but...

Are you kidding me? 200 mil/day mining as an Alpha in a Venture? I wouldn't spread such misinformation, and your intent can't be genuine.

[Shadefix]

The only tip anyone should ever give you and the only tip you need is " Don't play alone" .

[Myriad]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Shadefix:

The only tip anyone should ever give you and the only tip you need is " Don't play alone" .

While that's decent advice, it's certainly not a priority tip. I've flown solo many times, on the hunt for those who hunt. Also, a new player, most often than not, will experiment alone.

Once you're familiar with the game and have met a few people, then it's always a welcome addition to have a few comrades with you. An experienced fleet of a few can survive almost anything. But a fleet of many, knowing only to not play alone, will likely stumble upon a situation that results in a wipe.

[Kodokuro]

Read EVE GOLDEN RULES

[Sleepysteve]

I am also a new player, well considering it. Heard NUMEROUS almost endless stories of how toxic the nerds are in this game. My question is are there no safe zones like pve areas or am I going to get jumped 10 to 1 anywhere I go?

[Shotgun]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sleepysteve:

I am also a new player, well considering it. Heard NUMEROUS almost endless stories of how toxic the nerds are in this game. My question is are there no safe zones like pve areas or am I going to get jumped 10 to 1 anywhere I go?

There are no "PvE areas." Space is divided into security tiers. High-security space has NPC police spawns that will destroy anyone who illegally attacks another player. These police forces only avenge; they do not prevent attacks. Generally speaking, you will be perfectly safe in high-sec unless you're either baited into a legal duel, or you present yourself as a target that is worth killing despite the police response (this is called suicide-ganking). In practice, this means doing something like putting a lot of money's worth of assets in/on your insufficiently tanked ship, and setting it on autopilot through certain areas that are ganking hot spots. We're talking about levels of wealth that you should not possess as a new player, unless you drop considerable money on PLEX to be able to trade for items you shouldn't really be using at your level of experience.

So, practically speaking, as a new player you will be safe if you stick to high-sec space. The "stories" you hear aren't coming from new players, but from veteran players who do stupid things, and then use new players as the basis of their arguments for why PvP needs to be removed from this PvP game, which has been a PvP game since its inception 20 years ago.

But all of this is aside from the question of whether you should be playing EVE at all. If your attitude is that the players are toxic, that PvP is toxic, etc. etc., and all you want to do is be "safe" and grind PvE all day, then you're missing the entire point of EVE, and are very unlikely to stick with it over the long term, because the novelty of the grind will wear off quickly, unless you're one of those simple-minded people who are entertained by hitting the same buttons over and over again to see a number on your screen go up.

[Heathy]

yeah grinding forever without doing pvp is going to be boring, all of the grind amounts to you being able to pvp continuously, the game is balanced around the notion of you finding some activity that generates an income and using that income for power projection. or to invest in better ways of making an income. so you can do more pvp or pvp in more expensive ships.

the difficulty is the force multiplier of grouping up with others. 2v1 3v1 4v1 5v1 etc there isn't much power in individual strength but groups of ppl are extremely strong. just having a second person flying with you pretty much makes it so that you can kill any solo player, flying with 10 ppl pretty much guarantees you'll crush a 5 man fleet. and so on and so forth.
a 10 man fleet will most likely get steam rolled by a 20 man fleet. you get the idea. there are exceptions some ships and doctrines are stronger or more suited to fighting others so the underdog can win, if they are flying something that can actually counter the larger group. in most cases having more ppl = more alpha strike = ppl dying instantly. with a large enough fleet and alpha you can one shot ppl off the field. where as a smaller number of ppl won't have the alpha strike and the enemy logi(healers) can catch reps and stop ppl from dying.

ppl find it toxic because its no holds barred, if you jump into a gate camp they will kill you if they can. if you jump into a gate camp with enough ppl to kill them, they will run away or not engage (because most ppl only punch down especially those camping gates, I know this because I've camped gates). so you don't want to be the 1 in a 5v1, you want to be one of the 5. in most cases you're not going to be taking on whole fleets by yourself. if you want to succeed you HAVE TO join a player corp/alliance. because the true strength is in numerical advantage.

you want to be able to hold space and drop stations you need to be able to form up 100+ man fleets during every vulnerability window (because the ppl attacking your station will also be forming up 100+ man fleets to do that). if one of your structures gets reinforced you need to again, be able to pull together a fleet that can defend it. none of this can be done solo. there is very little strength in individuals and vast amounts of strength in groups.

the game is toxic because full loss competitive pvp is toxic in an inherent way, large powerful groups sh!tting on smaller groups because they can. ppl losing stations and expensive ships that took weeks or months to grind for, you can imagine ppl get more than a little bothered. plenty of politics, 'you killed one of my guys, now we're going to kick you out of x system'. and so on.

the corp i've joined is fighting multiple groups, today i'm probably going to lose a damnation to parabellum because they are sieging our class 4. one of my toons is sitting in a class 4 waiting for 7pm when the station comes out of reinforce. either we kill the 10 or so paladins that are logged off in here or we get evicted. I can afford to lose my damnation and my pod with the mindlink. it would be a loss but one that is recoverable. one that I expect. if I survive then thats even better. expect the worst, hope for the best. ultimately this battle is going to hinge on how many ppl make it in here today the bigger the defence, the better chance we have of not getting evicted. i'm not super bothered if we lose, the fight should be fun, my corp is probably going to be largely unaffected. talking about a corp that raises 45 billion isk in donations on day 2 of a 7 day donation drive. the isk flowing through these large groups is crazy. it wouldn't be difficult to setup in another hole. it wouldn't be through a lack of funding anyway.

ahh rip https://zkillboard.com/kill/109159554/ I died.

[Rodrigo]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Comrade Muffin:

Gonna give this game a try. Looking for a few tips for a new player, and yes, I tried youtube...but most of them are years old or...very not informative. XD

[Darugdawg]

tbh get away.

[MegaKootz]

Dont listen to the fools who say things like "Have a credit card" or "Run away from eve".

If you are a semi intelligent person who is not looking to be handed every single thing, then you might love eve.

As a new player some thing that I think you should keep in mind are that you have no requirement to sub to eve.. Many new players sub before they even know if they like the game. or they buy packs with omega time in them.

As a new player you can comfortably play the pve combat side of the game for a very long time before needing to sign up for omega, At that time you can decide if the monthly investment cost is worth paying for.

I for one have been playing on and off from 2013. I log on, grind missions, mine, wormhole, faction warfare, rat, or just find people to fight.

For me eve is not about comparing yourself to how much isk others are making, nor should any new player attempt to plex an account with ingame effort.

Those are huge time sinks and unless you are a very long time player you dont have the kind of methods to make enough isk to plex your account.. Let it go, seriously..

People who play this game will make 100x more money than you, in nearly every activity you do, Be that multiboxing miners, or multi account people, long time investors who literally own the hypernet relay... so many more people make SO MUCH MORE ISK. than you or I can ever dream... LET IT GO...

Stop comparing your income to theirs, stop comparing your need to have omega to your ability to pay for it with ingame isk..

Pay real money monthly and yes, if you have the money and want to, please as a newer player buy some skill points and inject them.

The newer player is harmless in buying skillpoints... Its the long term, multi account weirdos out there who are the real skill point buying problem...

New player are not spending thousands of dollars to retrain entirely new spy characters... But old school ingame vets are..

Eve is not here to hold your hand even though its gotten alot better with the new player experience.. its not going to give you your ship back and its not going to say its sorry..

Keybinds.. KEYBINDS.. KEYBINDS... alot of eve enjoyment is wrapped up in how people end up learning and playing it.. Learn your F-ing keybinds.. it helps the game play so much smoother..

I find alot of people who complain about the games ui or the clunky controls are using a mouse to navigate everything.. this is death in any game, and double death in eve..


Obviously dont fly what you cannot afford to lose... EVER..

Shift+Tab is your friend.. Eve Uni is your father... learn it.. love it..

The game is not going to give you an award for reaching a certain point... you just keep grinding them iskies.. best be cool with that right off..

Welcome to eve online, The game itself and the residents will do everything in their power to make sure you pay for your lazy mistakes.. You will lose.. and if you do not learn and become a better gamer today than you were yesterday.. you will quit just like everyone else...

Eve is too hard for most people... Dont get down if you dont measure up.

Rant over.,