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Hallozer Dec 16, 2018 @ 4:25pm
Legion
just looking for some feedback on what the legion does well and does not do well with as far as combat, some people says it's the worst t3, some say the best, and everybody seems to have a different opinion. The problem is most of these threads and discussions are from 2012-14, so I need you guys to give me some (preferably detailed) CURRENT feedback on everything legion related.

I should also add legion is about 12 days less training time than other T3s for me, and my amarr skills (energy turret/armor tank/etc)
Last edited by Hallozer; Dec 16, 2018 @ 4:49pm
Originally posted by Harrison:
Ever since CCP rebalanced T3s like two ago and hit the Legion in the right square in the nose with the nerf bat, it comes with all sorts of compromises. You can tank but hit like a wet noodle or you can hit like a truck but crumple like tissue paper.

This is about as good as it gets for lasers:
[Legion, Laser Legion]

Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Centum A-Type Energized Thermal Membrane
Corpum A-Type Energized Kinetic Membrane
Imperial Navy 800mm Steel Plates
Imperial Navy 1600mm Steel Plates

Corelum C-Type 50MN Microwarpdrive
True Sansha Warp Scrambler

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
True Sansha Medium Energy Nosferatu

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

Legion Core - Augmented Antimatter Reactor
Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers


Genolution Core Augmentation CA-1
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-4
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-3
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-2
Zainou '♥♥♥♥♥' CPU Management EE-605

Does just shy of 400 DPS with Scorch and 550 on Conflag, it's got 168k ehp. And, yes, the implants are necessary even at all level 5 skills. Unlike ye olde instalocking 6 heavy pulse of ages past.

Or you can go HAM on someone.
[Legion, Legion - HAM]

Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum B-Type Energized Thermal Membrane
Imperial Navy 1600mm Steel Plates
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

True Sansha Warp Scrambler
Corelum C-Type 50MN Microwarpdrive
True Sansha Small Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer
True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

Legion Core - Augmented Antimatter Reactor
Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating
Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization
Legion Propulsion - Wake Limiter


Hammerhead II x5
Valkyrie II x5
Warrior II x5
Acolyte II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Hornet EC-300 x5


Genolution Core Augmentation CA-1
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-4
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-3
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-2
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Power Grid Management EG-605


Navy Cap Booster 400 x10

This build does 853 DPS which, unlike lasers, will either apply or it won't. There's very little middle ground with missiles. Of course you lose about 50k EHP to make this fit work and it would be better with a web to better hold down fast ships but with the neuts on it your cap only lasts a few minutes so some sacrifices have to be made.

I knew I was missing something:
[Legion, Legion - HAM]

Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum B-Type Energized Thermal Membrane
Imperial Navy 1600mm Steel Plates
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

True Sansha Warp Scrambler
Corelum A-Type 10MN Afterburner
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
True Sansha Small Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer
True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

Legion Core - Energy Parasitic Complex
Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating
Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization
Legion Propulsion - Wake Limiter


Hammerhead II x5
Valkyrie II x5
Warrior II x5
Acolyte II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Hornet EC-300 x5


Genolution Core Augmentation CA-1
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-4
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-3
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-2
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Power Grid Management EG-603


Navy Cap Booster 400 x10

Still HAMs but now with a web. Loses about 80 dps but will be more likely to hit things now.

The Legion used to be decent at active tanking in pvp as well, but I don't have any experiance to talk about that now.
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Sadpan Dec 16, 2018 @ 4:40pm 
It's got more tank and damage at longer ranges, but that's about it. Good for j-space, but I'd go with a proteus or tengu over the legion any day.
Hallozer Dec 16, 2018 @ 4:55pm 
I hear legion does well as a buffer tank (150-200k ehp) + lasers and neuts + scram and point

That true?
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
Harrison Dec 16, 2018 @ 5:33pm 
Ever since CCP rebalanced T3s like two ago and hit the Legion in the right square in the nose with the nerf bat, it comes with all sorts of compromises. You can tank but hit like a wet noodle or you can hit like a truck but crumple like tissue paper.

This is about as good as it gets for lasers:
[Legion, Laser Legion]

Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Centum A-Type Energized Thermal Membrane
Corpum A-Type Energized Kinetic Membrane
Imperial Navy 800mm Steel Plates
Imperial Navy 1600mm Steel Plates

Corelum C-Type 50MN Microwarpdrive
True Sansha Warp Scrambler

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
True Sansha Medium Energy Nosferatu

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

Legion Core - Augmented Antimatter Reactor
Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers


Genolution Core Augmentation CA-1
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-4
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-3
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-2
Zainou '♥♥♥♥♥' CPU Management EE-605

Does just shy of 400 DPS with Scorch and 550 on Conflag, it's got 168k ehp. And, yes, the implants are necessary even at all level 5 skills. Unlike ye olde instalocking 6 heavy pulse of ages past.

Or you can go HAM on someone.
[Legion, Legion - HAM]

Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum B-Type Energized Thermal Membrane
Imperial Navy 1600mm Steel Plates
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

True Sansha Warp Scrambler
Corelum C-Type 50MN Microwarpdrive
True Sansha Small Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer
True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

Legion Core - Augmented Antimatter Reactor
Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating
Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization
Legion Propulsion - Wake Limiter


Hammerhead II x5
Valkyrie II x5
Warrior II x5
Acolyte II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Hornet EC-300 x5


Genolution Core Augmentation CA-1
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-4
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-3
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-2
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Power Grid Management EG-605


Navy Cap Booster 400 x10

This build does 853 DPS which, unlike lasers, will either apply or it won't. There's very little middle ground with missiles. Of course you lose about 50k EHP to make this fit work and it would be better with a web to better hold down fast ships but with the neuts on it your cap only lasts a few minutes so some sacrifices have to be made.

I knew I was missing something:
[Legion, Legion - HAM]

Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum B-Type Energized Thermal Membrane
Imperial Navy 1600mm Steel Plates
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

True Sansha Warp Scrambler
Corelum A-Type 10MN Afterburner
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
True Sansha Small Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer
True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

Legion Core - Energy Parasitic Complex
Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating
Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization
Legion Propulsion - Wake Limiter


Hammerhead II x5
Valkyrie II x5
Warrior II x5
Acolyte II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Hornet EC-300 x5


Genolution Core Augmentation CA-1
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-4
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-3
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-2
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Power Grid Management EG-603


Navy Cap Booster 400 x10

Still HAMs but now with a web. Loses about 80 dps but will be more likely to hit things now.

The Legion used to be decent at active tanking in pvp as well, but I don't have any experiance to talk about that now.
Last edited by Harrison; Dec 16, 2018 @ 5:42pm
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