wish Eve would be more realistic, but is so unbalanced

[giGLi]

Eve is a great game with many opportunities, many activities, lots of things to do, BUT is totally unbalanced.
The more you advance in game, the more you realize that you need to play in groups of people or so called corporations, and then comes the feeling of being limited and restrained to follow 1 and only 1  strategy. So all the activities, and all the opportunities will day by day feel useless because freedom of choices is only a dream in Eve.
Imagine a world where you can be attacked and destroyed at every location and your ship is so limited that you can only be ready for 1 course of action. Of course there are many strategies, but you can only equip a ship for 1 strategy at a time.
One could think that dedicating time and effort to improve skills and piloting bigger ships will give a chance in defending himself against attackers. It turns out that the bigger you go, the useless you get.
One can buy the most expensive items in game, just to see it destroyed by the cheapest ships in game.

Good things in game:
- vast universe
- lots of activities
- many ships

Bad things in game:
- forced to play in corporations
- solo players can only run from gankers
- the bigger the ship, the more items and possibilities should offer, but is totally the opposite
- each ship type is limited to a role
- due to the limitations of the ships, one can only follow a very very limited line of engagement
- even if there are many activities, because of the ships being so limited, there is only one good way of doing them, which does feel very limited.
- more expensive items should mean better items, in even better is limited to a category, and usually going bigger is only worse.
- big ship is only good vs other big ships, big weapons are only good versus big targets. While small ships are good against anything, small weapons are also good against any size of targets
- small ships can fit almost the same amount of items like big ships.
- the most annoying thing of all is that there is only one good strategy of playing it, there is no real strategy, there is no element of surprise.
- Eve claims to have the record of players in a fight, but they don't say that those fights are totally unreal. You do 1 action every 5-15 minutes. Everything is totally frozen, terrible lag, drops and disconnects, terribly boring. That's not something to be awarded for. Even in systems with only 200 players game lags and you have the risk of being disconnected. A shooter game has to process more data in a 2vs2 match than Eve with 200 players. Is so strange.

This is just my opinion, you don't have to agree with it. Just to be clear, I have billions in isk (the in-game coin), and don't regret any lost ship or structure, my only regret is the direction the game is going, making it easier for gankers, and putting more and more limitations to solo playing. I have played in big and small corporations, in high, low, null and wh, and all I can say is that with all the good things Eve has to offer, is so annoyingly limited in strategy.

[kelpatine]

I wish eve was more realistic too because then I could fly my spaceship with my mind and fight large scale space battles with my friends irl because why not.

[neoVictrix]

So what you're suggesting is EVE should be a game where a player doesn't have to specialize to get the most out of a ship designed for a specific activity, correct?

[ΔΙΑΚΟΣΙΑ]

Originally posted by giGLi:

- each ship type is limited to a role
- due to the limitations of the ships, one can only follow a very very limited line of engagement
- even if there are many activities, because of the ships being so limited, there is only one good way of doing them, which does feel very limited.
- more expensive items should mean better items, in even better is limited to a category, and usually going bigger is only worse.
- big ship is only good vs other big ships, big weapons are only good versus big targets. While small ships are good against anything, small weapons are also good against any size of targets
- small ships can fit almost the same amount of items like big ships.

These are all realistic.
You're thinking in terms of linear power (I think), but EVE follows real-world naval doctrine.

Real-world navies have ships dedicated to a single role.
A battleship will decimate a destroyer, if it can hit. A destroyer being smaller means that it can outmaneuver the larger guns of a battleship, and can do significant damage.
A destroyer can field the same number of turrets as a battleship, but the size difference (and thereby damage and turret rotation speed) will be vastly different. Same with modules; different size, different power.

[ZynXao]

ever heard of 'delonewolf'? its actually amazing what a solo player can do if he puts time and effort in it. just saying

[Sadpan]

Originally posted by ZynXao:

ever heard of 'delonewolf'? its actually amazing what a solo player can do if he puts time and effort in it. just saying

+1 delonewolf is proof you can solo in EVE, it just requires good game knowledge and motivation.

[neoVictrix]

Tell me more of this story of the fabled delonewolf.

[ZynXao]

check out the man himself here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHP3_2-6Zv5gAyFC5jto0CA

from running wormhole pve to putting up a citadel and doing industry over high sec combat exploration to living out of a normadic orca, this dude is your guy. he also has a very soothing voice :D

[Lurksmore]

Originally posted by Sadpan:

Originally posted by ZynXao:

ever heard of 'delonewolf'? its actually amazing what a solo player can do if he puts time and effort in it. just saying

+1 delonewolf is proof you can solo in EVE, it just requires good game knowledge and motivation.

Will it remain possible in the future.

[Shotgun]

Originally posted by giGLi:

- the most annoying thing of all is that there is only one good strategy of playing it, there is no real strategy, there is no element of surprise.

OP repeats this particular point quite a few times, but never actually defines it, which is really important.

[firestar587]

Originally posted by Shotgun:

Originally posted by giGLi:

- the most annoying thing of all is that there is only one good strategy of playing it, there is no real strategy, there is no element of surprise.

OP repeats this particular point quite a few times, but never actually defines it, which is really important.

"no element of surprise" what game is he playing? because it isn't eve, and yeah i would like to know this 1 good strategy

[Sadpan]

Originally posted by Lurksmore:

Originally posted by Sadpan:

+1 delonewolf is proof you can solo in EVE, it just requires good game knowledge and motivation.

Will it remain possible in the future.

Yes?

[Max Jergens]

Star Citizen is a level playing field where a players skill is what he has in him. Not some skill a EVE dev can nerf and take away from you after training the skill and using it for over a decade. EVE devs then sell the same skills back to you while adding 5 more new skill you will have to buy and train before you can recover game play that the devs nerfed and took away from you. EVE was awesome before it was sold to Pearl Abyss, now its a scam to nickle and dime the customer. In star Citizen and Elite Dangerous you wont have to train skill for years before you can use any of the ships but you will have to practice flying the ships to get good with each of the many ships. Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous is man vs man not wallet vs wallet like EVE. You wont find web pages or YouTube video to show you a path to beat everything like in EVE, you will have to earn that path and discover it for yourself.

[neoVictrix]

Originally posted by Max Jergens:

You wont find web pages or YouTube video to show you a path to beat everything like in EVE, you will have to earn that path and discover it for yourself.

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over all of the web pages and YouTube videos covering Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous on doing things.

[ΔΙΑΚΟΣΙΑ]

Originally posted by neoVictrix:

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over all of the web pages and YouTube videos covering Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous on doing things.

You have good hearing.
I can't hear them over the amount of spam that they've dumped on this forum.

[Sadpan]

Originally posted by Shinta215:

Originally posted by neoVictrix:

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over all of the web pages and YouTube videos covering Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous on doing things.

You have good hearing.
I can't hear them over the amount of spam that they've dumped on this forum.

I can't hear, you're gonna have to speak up