EVE Online
Here is my 11 hours experience in Eve Online as a new player.
I started playing the game and learned about exploration. Got excited after completing the tutorial and set out to probe stuffs. I found a worm hole scanned it and pin pointed its location. Worm hole found! Let's find out where it goes. Enter it and end up in uncharted space. Ok let's scan and find some treasure since my ships computer has to save the worm hole that I just went though right. I mean the location is known right. Well I scan this new area about 10 feet away from this worm hole which I know leads back to where I came from right. And I find some places and get some treasure. So far so good. Happy with my cargo I open up the probe map and what do I find? Nothing! The worm hole that I went through to get here for some reason my computer on my ship ran out of ram or something and didn't save that location. Not sure what the reasoning for this is but I asked for help. I got the answer that I have to scan again.

Well this system has like 5 worm holes and I end up not being able to jump or warp anywhere close to back home. No way to get back home being in uncharted space and my ships computer running out of ram not saving the location of stuff that I already found I tried to warp to green areas since I thought they were safe and once I get to the first location that is green I see red vehicles and get one shotted. All my treasures which I had no clue what to do with anyway and all of my items I bought for my scanner ship were gone. Ship is insured so that is good I guess. Oh wait. I still can't get back home to get the payout. There is no way for me to get back to where I need to be. Most of my 11 hours were trying to figure out how to do things. I learned how to fight and how to probe. To bad my ships computer needed more ram to save locations I have already explored. Promptly uninstalled. Sorry but this game is far to frustrating to even try to figure it out.
Цитата допису: ExplorerNMS:
Цитата допису RetroPacman:
Promptly uninstalled.
If you had asked me I would have told you to NEVER install EVE Online. But, Uninstalling it is a good too.

FYI, the WormHole mechanics are functioning as intended. They are intended to deliver new players to the waiting arms of Gankers.

You would think that the first thing the Exploration Tutorial would teach you is to BOOKMARK the wormhole location so that you can get back out. But it doesn't teach you that, because they want you to get stuck and they want you to get killed by other players. This is every EVE Online mechanic ever. They are all the same.

Enjoy whatever game you start playing. There are tons of great games out there.
Take my advice, Don't RE-Install EVE Online. ever.
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Цитата допису Ivo:
Цитата допису CCP Alpha:

EVE Online has one of the best communities out there, who take care of each other and look out for each other.
We take cyberbulling seriously and take appropriate actions.

Please see policies regarding cyberbulling below:
https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/terms-of-service-en/
https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/real-life-harassment-threats-policy-en/

I disagree. Almost 2000 hours player here. EVE online has one of the worst communities.
Ive witnessed drama like nothing before in this game.
Imagine sitting on coms (teamspeak) with other players.. then either having some authotarian demanding you behave and talk the way they want. Or just childish arguments.

I hated getting on teamspeak in this game.
Just because you had a few bad apples doesn't mean the whole orchard is bad, you'd know this if you really did play 2,000 hours of this game. I've met some of the most caring people in this game, and I wouldn't want it any other way.
Автор останньої редакції: Sadpan; 26 січ. 2021 о 16:50
Цитата допису Ivo:
Цитата допису CCP Alpha:

EVE Online has one of the best communities out there, who take care of each other and look out for each other.
We take cyberbulling seriously and take appropriate actions.

Please see policies regarding cyberbulling below:
https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/terms-of-service-en/
https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/real-life-harassment-threats-policy-en/

I disagree. Almost 2000 hours player here. EVE online has one of the worst communities.
Ive witnessed drama like nothing before in this game.
Imagine sitting on coms (teamspeak) with other players.. then either having some authotarian demanding you behave and talk the way they want. Or just childish arguments.

I hated getting on teamspeak in this game.
Exceptions don't make the rule.

Authoritarians can and will be present anywhere in life. At least in the game, you can ignore them.

And having childish arguments doesn't necessarily make anyone a bad person.
Imagine installing a PVP game then crying about PVP.

Some kids these days are so entitled it is funny. As soon as things are not easy and they fail to adapt to something they go cry on forums.
Цитата допису Zyme:
Imagine installing a PVP game then crying about PVP.

Some kids these days are so entitled it is funny. As soon as things are not easy and they fail to adapt to something they go cry on forums.
You do know that CCP/EVE Online tells potential players that they can play the game ALONE, without ever having to PvP, right?

If not, back up, and watch the Game Play trailer in the STEAM EVE Online Store page. Try to listen to it as though you know absolutely nothing about EVE Online. It tells you straight out, and in crystal clear words, that you don't have to PvP EVER.
Цитата допису ExplorerNMS:
Цитата допису Zyme:
Imagine installing a PVP game then crying about PVP.

Some kids these days are so entitled it is funny. As soon as things are not easy and they fail to adapt to something they go cry on forums.
You do know that CCP/EVE Online tells potential players that they can play the game ALONE, without ever having to PvP, right?

If not, back up, and watch the Game Play trailer in the STEAM EVE Online Store page. Try to listen to it as though you know absolutely nothing about EVE Online. It tells you straight out, and in crystal clear words, that you don't have to PvP EVER.

The trailer literally says "Havens of relative safety".

Of course you can avoid PVP if you wish, but kids these days are entitled and think they can go anywhere without anyone attacking them.

You can also market trade and never undock, like I do. I played 5 years and have not killed anyone.

The sandbox allows you to do what you want, but you have to understand the terms of the game, not cry when things do not go your way.

WoW is there for these people.
Цитата допису RetroPacman:
I started playing the game and learned about exploration. Got excited after completing the tutorial and set out to probe stuffs. I found a worm hole scanned it and pin pointed its location. Worm hole found! Let's find out where it goes. Enter it and end up in uncharted space. Ok let's scan and find some treasure since my ships computer has to save the worm hole that I just went though right. I mean the location is known right. Well I scan this new area about 10 feet away from this worm hole which I know leads back to where I came from right. And I find some places and get some treasure. So far so good. Happy with my cargo I open up the probe map and what do I find? Nothing! The worm hole that I went through to get here for some reason my computer on my ship ran out of ram or something and didn't save that location. Not sure what the reasoning for this is but I asked for help. I got the answer that I have to scan again.

Well this system has like 5 worm holes and I end up not being able to jump or warp anywhere close to back home. No way to get back home being in uncharted space and my ships computer running out of ram not saving the location of stuff that I already found I tried to warp to green areas since I thought they were safe and once I get to the first location that is green I see red vehicles and get one shotted. All my treasures which I had no clue what to do with anyway and all of my items I bought for my scanner ship were gone. Ship is insured so that is good I guess. Oh wait. I still can't get back home to get the payout. There is no way for me to get back to where I need to be. Most of my 11 hours were trying to figure out how to do things. I learned how to fight and how to probe. To bad my ships computer needed more ram to save locations I have already explored. Promptly uninstalled. Sorry but this game is far to frustrating to even try to figure it out.

Rookie Help Channel best place to go for Vets willing to help new players as well as ISDs / GMs.

Plus people like myself love helping new brothers out in Eve should they need assistance, my #1 help criteria is Wormhole Assistance in Caldari / Amarr High Sec / Low Sec
Цитата допису Zyme:
WoW is there for these people.
It really isn't - don't give WoW such a bad name.

WoW raiding can be very challenging, and whiners like this never get to see end-game content because they get kicked out of their guilds for complaining about wipes, not getting the boss drops that they want, etc. etc.

I would say that the only suitable modern gaming experience for these people comes from casual cell phone games, like the ones where you have a running character that collects coins, and all you can do is tap the screen to make the character jump. But even if they don't jump to collect all of the coins, they'll still collect some, so no matter how badly they play, they'll still be "winning."
Автор останньої редакції: Shotgun; 7 лют. 2021 о 14:11
Цитата допису ExplorerNMS:
You do know that CCP/EVE Online tells potential players that they can play the game ALONE, without ever having to PvP, right?

If not, back up, and watch the Game Play trailer in the STEAM EVE Online Store page. Try to listen to it as though you know absolutely nothing about EVE Online. It tells you straight out, and in crystal clear words, that you don't have to PvP EVER.
so, just because you lied before to make the game look bad I looked up said trailer. it goes "eve online... alive with activity and history of its players... featuring havens of relative safety... capsuleer... ships... skills... if you want to fight there's pve and pvp... you can do all of this ALONE or with others (ahh, there it is)... market & industry... community..." ... well, seems like I cant find where it says:
Цитата допису ExplorerNMS:
It tells you straight out, and in crystal clear words, that you don't have to PvP EVER.
strange... maybe I missed it? whats the timestamp for that 'crystal clear' statement? feel free to link it.
Цитата допису Ivo:
Цитата допису CCP Alpha:

EVE Online has one of the best communities out there, who take care of each other and look out for each other.
We take cyberbulling seriously and take appropriate actions.

Please see policies regarding cyberbulling below:
https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/terms-of-service-en/
https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/real-life-harassment-threats-policy-en/

I disagree. Almost 2000 hours player here. EVE online has one of the worst communities.
Ive witnessed drama like nothing before in this game.
Imagine sitting on coms (teamspeak) with other players.. then either having some authotarian demanding you behave and talk the way they want. Or just childish arguments.

I hated getting on teamspeak in this game.

I've been FC'ing small gang / large gang fleets in FW for more than 8 years in Eve Online.

There is only three rules associated with fleets
#1 - Fleet Commander is God or Divine Figure, you do what he says no questions, you ignore this rule chances are you won't be reinvited to roams/fleets.
#2 - During active comms - only communicate absolutely necessary information, general chat is to be minimal.
#3 - if an FC says check check or tackle says it, silence on comms immediately, and prepare to receive new orders.

If you can't follow those guidelines to an FC my guess is you were a for disruption and probably got booted a few times for insubordination.

I've been playing Eve for some 14,000 hours / based on 90 days a year average of about 10 hours a day of those 90 days. I started just after the release of Cold War, the way Comms and fleets are set up are the way that they are for a reason. If you want to bash the community because of Fleet dynamics then your an idiot.

Some of the best time in Eve can be spent with a Fleet as well as the worst, taking some considerations for others than yourself is key. But I don't honestly expect you to consider that.
Цитата допису ZynXao:
Цитата допису ExplorerNMS:
You do know that CCP/EVE Online tells potential players that they can play the game ALONE, without ever having to PvP, right?

If not, back up, and watch the Game Play trailer in the STEAM EVE Online Store page. Try to listen to it as though you know absolutely nothing about EVE Online. It tells you straight out, and in crystal clear words, that you don't have to PvP EVER.
so, just because you lied before to make the game look bad I looked up said trailer. it goes "eve online... alive with activity and history of its players... featuring havens of relative safety... capsuleer... ships... skills... if you want to fight there's pve and pvp... you can do all of this ALONE or with others (ahh, there it is)... market & industry... community..." ... well, seems like I cant find where it says:
Цитата допису ExplorerNMS:
It tells you straight out, and in crystal clear words, that you don't have to PvP EVER.
strange... maybe I missed it? whats the timestamp for that 'crystal clear' statement? feel free to link it.
He won't tell you; he'll just ignore you and repeat his initial lie verbatim.

This has been going on in multiple threads at this point, and the story is always the same. He's trying to pass off "you can do X alone" as "you can do X in a vacuum devoid of any other players." But he knows that being able to play alone, in this context, means to play in a group of one, and not in a server of one; it just doesn't fit his narrative and desire to hurt the game.
Автор останньої редакції: Shotgun; 8 лют. 2021 о 9:08
It's a sandbox. People can play however they want as long as it doesn't go against the TaC/CoC. If they want to gank people they can gank people, if you don't want to be ganked then play in High-Sec or find a corp. If you want to play as a lone wolf you either stay in High-Sec or learn how to navigate trough low- and null-sec as a solo. If you absolutely don't want to play any PvP then you can only play in High-Sec or have friends accompany you, deal with it.
Your not getting bullied if you get ganked and killed, you're just having bad luck, weren't prepared / got overpowerd or are new and now learned to be a bit more careful.
It's also not bullying when a player opens a "Bank", people use it, and the person runs off with the profits. YOU chose to trust that Person/Corp with your stuff without having any secruities, maybe next time you'll think twice before trusting someone. Was it a scam? Yes. Was it againt the rules? No. Was it the peoples own fault that they got scammed? Yes.

Then about the game not telling you that you have to bookmark a wormhole so you won't lose its position when you move too far away from it. It makes complete sense that you would need to mark the location of an object in an unexplored piece of space to not lose it (or any temporary phenomenon). That includes a WH, which is an anomaly, and therefore has to be scanned for to be found (or marked when you find it in order to return to it).
The tutorial explains you the absolute basics of the game, the rest is for yourself to figure out, thats what it means to play a sandbox game. If you don't want to do that then inform yourself first or ask someone before you lose something (like in the OP's case), it's not that hard.
There are enough resources that you can find on the web to get an in depth explanation of everything in Eve.

Don't blame the devs for your own unwillingness to learn or incompetence.
Oh no, did wittle baby fail to do research on a game and then fail to do research or ask questions on the mechanics of that game and then die? If you had asked literally a single person they would have told you that going into a wormhole as a new player is a bad idea, but you didn't and now you are gone, and no one cares.
Цитата допису Ivo:
You misunderstand. I never got booted.
I left because those rules were trash and id rather not pay money for it.
Pesants accept such things.. i dont so problem solved.
Or you could've just sought out a more casual corporation where the culture isn't that hardcore. Plenty of corporations out there, even effective PvP corporations with good records and reputations, that have a much more casual and relaxed atmosphere.
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Цитата допису Shotgun:
Or you could've just sought out a more casual corporation where the culture isn't that hardcore. Plenty of corporations out there, even effective PvP corporations with good records and reputations, that have a much more casual and relaxed atmosphere.

I'd rather not have to rebuild PI every time.. or move stuff.. or all the other lovely stuff that comes with moving corps.
As far as I know, your PI wouldn't get affected whatsoever. Unless you mean that you'd have to do it because of relocation, which realistically would only impact you in wormhole/null-sec space.

Anyway, changing corporations is a regular aspect of EVE life. Even if you find one that you like, there's no guarantee that it will exist forever. Corporations can break up, or even get destroyed. But looking around for one that you fit in when you need to can be juice that's worth the squeeze. I've met some of my best friends in EVE, which would've never happened if I insisted on never changing my corporation, or worse yet, decided to stop playing entirely.

It's your life and your choice; I'm just letting you know that there are better alternatives out there, and that the payoff can be worth the effort.
Автор останньої редакції: Shotgun; 8 лют. 2021 о 12:37
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