new player screen layout and skills page

[Fusion2]

urgh whats with the new character sheet and skills tab the old style was so much better it was simple yet effective now there's too much going on it disgusts me how ppl try to justify their existence by screwing up what worked also i didn't want a full picture of my character it was fine how it was, i would like to be able to revert back to the previous version as i knew it that being said its probably changed over the years before but i liked it how i knew it when i started playing and a lot of other ppl will like this new version which is great each to their own and it probs adds more content to the game but this is just my 2 cents on this one change its small things like this that make me want to stop playing for a short time while i pout over it lol nah just kidding ;P fly safer ppl pew pew

[Sadpan]

or just get used to it lol, it's not that bad

[[GCA] King Apo]

It's really bad and impractical. It's basically the opposite of what I want from my windows in EVE: small, compact & easily digestable detailed info. This seriously looks like it was made for some mobile/tablet game. There are lot's of waste space and worst of all it does not behave like any other EVE window, like maximizing when moved to the top. (And I certainly don't want anything to behave like that)

This is not something you can just get used to, with the old skill que window, I was able to quickly and easily do everyting I want. But this is a big exercise in how to make a big bloaty window where you have to scroll around and squint, trying to find you what you want. Why do there need to be huge symbols? Why the big wasted space that makes this window just oversized? Why not make this optional?

The less is said about the new character sheet, the better. Who came up with that idea... Just ouch. You can not hide the character potrait anymore. It takes up over 1/3rd of the character sheet, costs lot's of perfomance and serves no practical purpose except clicking on the 'Skills' button to reach the new skill que.

This is way way worse then red dot desaster. That CCP would release it in this state, without the option for the old style, is really worrying. My honest to got fear now is, that they want to revamp the UI in this style. (maybe for a EVE mobile future?!) Even if there is a big rework based on player feedback (lol i know), I am very doubtful this is going to satisfy anyone who played with a compact& somewhat easily to digest skill que/character sheet before.

Nevermind all the bugs with it and very obvious lack of functions we know from old the old UI. (double click to add skills for example)

[Shotgun]

Post the feedback on the official forums, because if it gains traction, they'll hopefully make some updates. It's probably likely that they're trying to move to a mobile-friendly UI style since the intent is to get EVE onto mobile devices in the future.

Also, OP really needs to learn how to break up paragraphs into sentences, because that was very hard to read. Just, ouch.

[Myriad]

Yeah it's, uh, bad. It seems they took away information. You used to be able to hover over a skill and see more information about it, such as exactly how much points you have invested in that particular skill, and more that I can't remember because I can no longer see. But there were 2 boxes, the definition of the skill, which they kept, and a second box with additional info, which they removed.

Skill plans...? I'll refrain from saying too much yet, but they seem like a way to help players waste skill points, but time will tell as I look into it more. And I agree that the gargantuan icons just make everything look cluttered, and makes less info available at a glance.

I'm not fond of it, and seems like a downgrade. But as said, it may have been done to expand to mobile or something.

[Mai Dixie Normous]

Its just another way to make it easier for new people to spend their skill points so they can in return sell more people skill injectors through the store.
Eve is such a joke of a game, BDO looks tamed compared to how ptw this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game has become and each update shows it

[Spirit]

(i play it with the official launcher so dont worry)
in the forums on the official website there is a cloud full of zaps and poodoo going on
what is the point in asking for feedback but not listen to it anyways ?
its like "oh we ask you for a flavour you like but we roll out the one with the worst taste anyways"
they really should add the option to change back to the previous version and let people decide what version they like more : the compact one with lots of information or the oversized one with lots of empty space

[Zoe & Kids]

Personally, I like the new look although I agree it does look very mobile related.

Also agree that the SP info loss is annoying as I referred to this info frequently.

[t3kk3]

Im also disliking the new look, king apo pointed out its major flaws - if a new design makes me spend more time on doing my stuff than the old one its a downgrade.

The style might be a matter of taste, but its not for mine either and the big fonts dont go well with the rest of the game imo.

An option to change back to the old one would be appreciated.

The real bummer for new players (since oldtimers will simply ignore it and this "up"date should enhance the npe...) are the skill plans. They are what i consider noobtraps. Some simply have skills that you wont need for the choosen path, eg why should an amarrian pilot have to train galente ships to be an industrial or caldari to be a scavenger. I bet many new players that want to get the rewards (even if their isk value is miniscule) will waste valueable points on those. To me it shows that whoever did this either spend no thought on it, simply doesnt play the game or did it with downright ill intent.

[DyNaMiX]

The new look is terrible! I feel like a new player myself trying to translate it for a new player... Just another change for the sake of change update.

[Petrus Magnus]

Feel free to add feedback here (~600 comments despite aggressive "moderation"):
https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-19-08-general-feedback/327600

A lot of people are unhappy both my corp & alliance discords roasted the new skill menu.

Also in game use the thumb down feedback in settings.

[LizardWizard]

Good idea, bad execution. The CSM is no substitution for focus groups, yet this is what CCP has been doing for a long time. It probably would help if they didn't threat their workforce as disposable and had retained more core developers and team leads, but with a history of layoffs and subsequent horribly tanking offshoot failures, this is as good as it gets.

[oDdJ0B]

I think it's awful. A complete mess and a downgrade from the previous version.