Become Omega For Free?

[Kolthard]

Hi guys,

As the tittle says, I'd like to know if there is a real chance to get a PLEX in game, paying it with ISK, and wich is the best way to get it.

I really like the game and I'd pay 60-80€ to get it in a 'pay once, play forever' format, but the monthly subscription is something that I just can't support, basically because I don't want to be obliged to play so I can amortize the money spent in a month.

With the first 60h of game-time played, I'm starting to think that it's impossible to get 1 billion ISK making missions. I've been working for the Sisters of EVE, and even with the money I made after +- 20 missions, I only have about 15M ISK on my account.

I also know that with the new PLEX system there is a chance to buy mini plexes, which, gives to opportunity to alpha clones like me to start buying them little by little and save them until we have enough (500!) to buy a subscription.

That's why I'd love to know the best way to make ISK in game for a free player, and basically I have a few questions about this.

-Which are the best ways to make fast ISK on EVE Online? Mining, questing, exploring, pvp...?

-I say 'fast' because for sure there should be others, and if they really exist...how long will it take to make enough money? I mean, I don't have enough time to invest in the game just for completing this task, because I'd also like to enjoy it making other things.

-Once you get the first PLEX completed, being Omega gives you more opportunities to make money faster or easier? That would be great, because even if I can't get the first PLEX buy playing I have to buy it, I'd like to know if in that month I'll be able (or more able) to get a new PLEX in game for the next month.

Sorry if this threat was written before, but as the new system has just been implemented a few days ago, maybe something has changed and there are new ways to get this.

Thanks everybody for the help.

[Jimmy McGill]

Exploration gives big cash.

[glock30owner]

Last I checked, PLEX was going for about 1.3 billion ISK. So you need to earn approximately 44 million ISK/day (more if you don't play every day).

Nul Sec ratting can get you this, as an Alpha, in about 2-4 hrs (depending on bounties, drops and escallations).

Exploration **COULD** get you 1 billion or more ISK in a single site (dount count on it though) or you could spend hours exploring and find nothing.

Mining Ore, Ice or Gas in Nul sec or J-space, could get you what you need in 4-8 hrs. If you stay in high sec, double the time.

[Maverick]

In my opinion: For the average player, paying for your subscription via PLEX is unrealistic. Unless you're the leader of a high income corporation, PLEX is something you buy with real money and sell to those who have enough ISK to use it for game time (ie: the aformentioned CEO).

[Flying Fish]

exporation is gives some crazy isk if you get lucky also if you get a good ship for murdering npc you can get a plex within 1 week i dont think mining or industry rly pay that well i would say exploration and killing npc is a good way of getting fast isk

[Tor]

There's no way to get Omega status for free.

If you're looking to pay with in-game cash, you'll want to play the meta game - in other words, activities where you gain money from other players. The simplest would probably straight up trading. You can start with practically zero cash, take whatever you can spare and invest it in some trade deal, every day or two, come back and re-invest the money you make from it. Over time, that little investment snowballs into a significant income that takes comparatively little oversight.

Just be mindful of the amount of time you're spending trying to save $15/mo. I doubt it's worth your while spending much more than a couple of hours on it.

[Nenne.]

Few years back i was moon minning in null sec. Sold raw material to the big alliances back then.
I made about a bilion a week.

Its possible but you need some luck too.
in what ever you decide to do.

Have an alt char constantly in Jita buying cheap selling with profit would also do the trick.

Or do as the most players do.....Scam in Jita channel......

[randomcreep]

You could get enough through offensive plexing in Faction Warfare pretty realistically.

[Zen]

The most important thing: join a corporation.

Get into wormhole exploration. Get enough money in a couple of days or a week or two, depending on your luck and on the amount of gameplay.

Train skills to do lvl 4 missions asap. After couple of months you would be able to do incursions, which gets you money for PLEX in about 15 hours of gameplay (if you're psychotic enough)

Alternatively, join any nullsec corporation and mine, rat or explore there,with the help of your corpmates. Join large battles, salvage and loot stuff - once I've got about 600 mil from one big battle (and normally I am too lazy to actually loot).

[Shotgun]

Originally posted by Kolthard:

-Which are the best ways to make fast ISK on EVE Online? Mining, questing, exploring, pvp...?

-I say 'fast' because for sure there should be others, and if they really exist...how long will it take to make enough money? I mean, I don't have enough time to invest in the game just for completing this task, because I'd also like to enjoy it making other things.

As has been mentioned, generally speaking, the quickest methods of making money involve abstract player interaction, such as trading, scamming, begging, extortion, et cetera. This is because these methods don't have any hard-defined caps on earned income. The sky is the limit, really. Standard PvE activities, such as mining, running missions, and planetary interfacing, all have income ceilings that you can hit if you achieve maximum efficiency. So for example, mining income gets capped at the point where you mine the most profitable ore with the most efficient setup; there's absolutely nothing you can do to raise it past that point.

The newer you are, the more limited you are in your standard PvE opportunities by your skill point count. In a fresh Alpha clone, you might be able to pull 2-3 million ISK/hour mining in your venture or running level 1 missions in a frigate. At the same time, you could make a billion every hour if you're a clever scammer.

Activities that rely on random chance, such as exploration content, can net you more money if you get lucky, but it's important to take averages into account. Still, you'll probably make more money from exploration than any other PvE activity at this point.

So to summarize, from best to worst income:

1. Trading/scamming/begging/anything else that's abstract and non-violent (very reliant on personal skill)
2. PvP, as a form of aggressive piracy/ganking/extortion (reliant on both personal skill and skill points, as you will need to take advantage of being able to use advanced ships and equipment)
3. High-end, risky PvE, such as wormholes/incursions (heavily reliant on skill points)
4. Mid-tier Pve, such as running level 4 missions in high-sec and doing factional warfare PvE content (heavily reliant on skill points, albeit with a lower minimum requirement)
5. Mining (fully reliant on skill points, with a low overall income ceiling)

Originally posted by Kolthard:

-Once you get the first PLEX completed, being Omega gives you more opportunities to make money faster or easier? That would be great, because even if I can't get the first PLEX buy playing I have to buy it, I'd like to know if in that month I'll be able (or more able) to get a new PLEX in game for the next month.

Yes, but the difference will grow slowly and gradually every month. At some point, you will be able to engage in top-tier PvE content, such as incursions/wormhole sites, as long as you're Omega. At that point, the difference between the two clone states will be black and white, at least as far as PvE content is concerned.

[Zack 762]

plex is there for sale, so the devs can feed their kids

[Flexxo]

Do 4/10 in a cruiser it takes time yes . But if super lucky you got a plex in 4 of them

[Shotgun]

Originally posted by Flexxo:

Do 4/10 in a cruiser it takes time yes . But if super lucky you got a plex in 4 of them

Unless you have the area all to yourself, chances are that the overseer is going to get stolen from you. Doing 4/10s without the ability to pump out the damage might be a bad idea for Alpha players.

[Flexxo]

Originally posted by Shotgun:

Originally posted by Flexxo:

Do 4/10 in a cruiser it takes time yes . But if super lucky you got a plex in 4 of them

Unless you have the area all to yourself, chances are that the overseer is going to get stolen from you. Doing 4/10s without the ability to pump out the damage might be a bad idea for Alpha players.

it do ?
must say i never have problems with that, maybe its the area ur in.

but dont spend time to scan 4/10's just do combat sites to you get them. then they got to combat scan you down and i really dont think most players want to spend the time combat scanning highsec down.

Combat sites are still the fastest way for a alpha to get isk to go omega and it really dont take you along time.

so if you shotgun calles it a bad way i would love to hear what way you call good and fast.

myself i came back after years away from eve with no money at all. startet doing missions and after like a month i had to fully fit a Battle Cruiser to do the sites and with in the first weeks i rolled over my first 2B.. now its 6 months in and im on 14B

[Little Strawberry]

Originally posted by Flexxo:

myself i came back after years away from eve with no money at all. startet doing missions and after like a month i had to fully fit a Battle Cruiser to do the sites and with in the first weeks i rolled over my first 2B.. now its 6 months in and im on 14B

You should've probably just joined a corporation, you could've reduced those 6 months to like a single day.

[Flexxo]

Originally posted by Little Strawberry:

Originally posted by Flexxo:

myself i came back after years away from eve with no money at all. startet doing missions and after like a month i had to fully fit a Battle Cruiser to do the sites and with in the first weeks i rolled over my first 2B.. now its 6 months in and im on 14B

You should've probably just joined a corporation, you could've reduced those 6 months to like a single day.

no im fine with what i did. there is no need to rush things and get bored very fast with it