So... you're not safe from ganks in Deadspace?

[Myriad]

As the title may insinuate, I just got ganked while doing an Agent Mission in a Deadspace pocket. I didn't think that was possible. The point of those pockets, as it is written, is to "allow a player to complete an agent mission without being interrupted by other players."

I'm guessing I misunderstood? It completely took me off guard because I thought those pockets were created individually for Missions only. Anyone care to elaborate?

[Myriad]

@Shotgun

Thanks for the tips. I actually don't have any friends in the game hahaha. And scouting on an alt just seems tedious. What, do you have to log off, log on, travel to the gate, then do it all over again on your main? I think I'll try to fit my ship with that align and burn time.

I never heard of in-line smart-bombing battleships. I'm guessing they can kill you in that 1 second before the gate warp? Lol

[Shotgun]

引用自 Myriad：

Thanks for the tips. I actually don't have any friends in the game hahaha. And scouting on an alt just seems tedious. What, do you have to log off, log on, travel to the gate, then do it all over again on your main? I think I'll try to fit my ship with that align and burn time.

If you have two Omega accounts, you can scout for yourself in real-time. Otherwise, yes, you'll need to do the logging thing. But if you stick with EVE long enough, at some point you will get a second account anyway, so why not now? Main combat character on the primary, and a scout/trader/manufacturer/prober on the other. Let's you focus your skills better, too.

引用自 Myriad：

I never heard of in-line smart-bombing battleships. I'm guessing they can kill you in that 1 second before the gate warp? Lol

Yup. Smartbombs do periodic AoE damage. As you're coming out of warp upon arrival to the target gate, you take a few volleys. If your EHP is very high, you will survive because they don't do a lot of damage, but for smaller and/or unbuffered ships, it is deadly. I myself lost a frigate once that way.

But if you approach the gate from an unexpected angle, this isn't a problem, because to have full gate coverage you would need a lot of people.

[ambi]

引用自 Myriad：

Here's a question I'd like to know... What do you do when you go through a gate and notice ships waiting there? You're cloaked for a minute, but you can't move to warp, or return to the gate, because you'll get scrambled or webified. Are you basically dead and at the mercy of chance every time you go through a gate?

You can try to "travel-fit" your ship. Inertia stabilizers and low friction nozzle rigs will reduce the time it takes to warp (align time). If you can get it under 2 seconds, you can bypass 99% of gate camps since it usually requires at least 3 seconds to lock and scramble someone. Once you reach your destination, you can refit for PVE or whatever you plan to do.

There is also the "mwd cloak" trick. It's a bit complicated for newbies, but if you learn how to use it, you can bypass camps. https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Cloak_trick

You can also travel low sec in a pod. Pods can insta-warp, although they're vulnerable to smart bombs.

[Bashar]

Well, as I was told by experienced players, you can be scanned down in any plex, escalation or not, so D-scan is your best friend. Can't tell you how many times it saved my ass in low or WH. And refresh it constantly, the scanning skills of those guys are something to see, trust me. Your second best friend is staying fast. Cruiser is slow. If you fly into a gate camp, you're most certainly dead. But in a destroyer - it's 50/50. In a frigate - even better. And if you're Gallente, assuming you lost that Thorax, I'd recommend you stick with Algos for some time. Max the drones, meta 4 guns, meta4 or t2 tank - you can do a Serpentis 3/10 in it no problem, just pay attention to your drones. And I saw guys doing 4/10 in Algos, but that would require perfect Alpha skills and fit. Also, there is a difference in losing 10-15 mil Algos, or 40-60 mil Thorax or Vexor. Lost an Algos, bought your next one, no problem. And from a 3/10 you can get 10-110 mil loot. So after you do just 1, you either have your money back, or you get 3-10x profit.
And yes, the moment you undock consider your ship lost. Just try to get the best value from it.
Also do some intel before you enter low. Open the map, check statistics - if there are many people and kills in the system it is most probably camped. To make sure, check the system name on zkillboard. It shows where exactly the kill occured. If you see 2-3 kills happened on a gate - it is 200% camped. If somewhere else - well, maybe it's some FW fights, or somebody is hunting ratters and miners.

[Shotgun]

引用自 Bashar：

Well, as I was told by experienced players, you can be scanned down in any plex, escalation or not, so D-scan is your best friend. Can't tell you how many times it saved my ass in low or WH. And refresh it constantly, the scanning skills of those guys are something to see, trust me.

I have to admit that the way we do this is indeed downright evil. My frame of reference is wormholes (no local chat, unlike everywhere else). We will first narrow down your location with the d-scan while staying cloaked. Once that's done, we will move an off-grid cluster of probes on top of your location, scan, and then move them off again. This entire process gives you around a 15-second window to see those probes on d-scan, that's it. Then we will put a tackling stealth bomber on top of you, and warp in the attack gang. The second you realize what's going on and start aligning, the bomber uncloaks and scrambles you (this is done at the last possible moment to ensure that you have as little time as possible to shoot the bomber, which is weak defensively), before the gang arrives. If you're doing an anomaly, we don't even need the probes, because the anomaly appears on the scanner until it is complete.

Your best chance for survival (assuming you're not putting on an entire rack's worth of warp core stabs) might be something along the lines of an ECM burst and/or Target Spectrum Breaker. But that chance is slim regardless of what you do at that point.

[Myriad]

引用自 Bashar：

you can do a Serpentis 3/10 in it no problem, just pay attention to your drones. And I saw guys doing 4/10 in Algos, but that would require perfect Alpha skills and fit. Also, there is a difference in losing 10-15 mil Algos, or 40-60 mil Thorax or Vexor. Lost an Algos, bought your next one, no problem. And from a 3/10 you can get 10-110 mil loot. So after you do just 1, you either have your money back, or you get 3-10x profit.

What is this Serpentis 3/10 for 10-110 mil that you speak of? I'm starting to do level 3 Security missions and I get about 1 mil per mission.

[Bashar]

引用自 Myriad：

What is this Serpentis 3/10 for 10-110 mil that you speak of? I'm starting to do level 3 Security missions and I get about 1 mil per mission.

When you fly in HighSec (or anywhere) you might see Combat anomalies. You can also find them via Agency. If you clear them, they could give you an escalation to a DED Complex (or plex), which is rated from 1/10 to 10/10. Serpentis Hideaway and Refuge escalate to a 3/10 plex Narcotics Warehouse. It can be easily cleared in an Algos or even Tristan, with some skill. In the last room there is a structure called Stronghold. Destroy it and you have a chance to get some very nice loot, up to 110 mil isk cost. You can also find these plexes with scanner probes in HighSec.
I strongly advise if you're gonna play EVE to study the UniWiki. Tons of useful information. https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Combat_sites

[Myriad]

引用自 Bashar：

引用自 Myriad：

What is this Serpentis 3/10 for 10-110 mil that you speak of? I'm starting to do level 3 Security missions and I get about 1 mil per mission.

When you fly in HighSec (or anywhere) you might see Combat anomalies. You can also find them via Agency. If you clear them, they could give you an escalation to a DED Complex (or plex), which is rated from 1/10 to 10/10. Serpentis Hideaway and Refuge escalate to a 3/10 plex Narcotics Warehouse. It can be easily cleared in an Algos or even Tristan, with some skill. In the last room there is a structure called Stronghold. Destroy it and you have a chance to get some very nice loot, up to 110 mil isk cost. You can also find these plexes with scanner probes in HighSec.
I strongly advise if you're gonna play EVE to study the UniWiki. Tons of useful information. https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Combat_sites

Thanks!

[JustSmile]

引用自 Bashar：

I strongly advise if you're gonna play EVE to study the UniWiki. Tons of useful information. https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Combat_sites

I'd just advise to join EVE Uni outright, actually.

[Dung Defender]

You're safe nowhere except inside state sanctioned dock (a.k.a CCP station).

I have mined and explored high-low and null sec. Null is the safest because it's random. This game give new players wrong impression every time. Go exploration, that's how I got my Scorpion (which get destroyed less than 2 hours later because i'm dumb at PvP) (ofc I don't play this game anymore)

[🍮]

引用自 dark_horse_spirit：

The game is annoying when it comes to combat..and who the heck wants to hit there d-scan every few seconds...but hitting d-scan is not 100% either. I lost a 300m ship a few weeks ago and it totaly took any enthusiasm for the game away..it was like a gut punch then a ♥♥♥♥♥ slap by the game. I wouldn't mind losing a ship if there was more gratification in the fight..but the fights in eve are seconds and will never be fair...I sometimes think the game is very slandered for certain players, Ive been ganked by the same player and players in the same ships for years...When I get a new ship Ive spent stupid amount of time building it gets killed awefully fast. Ive concluded that ccp are eve players with inside info. For this reason when I do log in I don't even bother with missions or building ships anymore, I usually set up some bp and move onto another game..Like Star Conflict or elite...at least my efforts in creation aren't totaly gone when I get ganked or lose a fight.Eve well never change..these little complaint posts only attract the gankers to protect the game with comments like the ones above...soon you will be like the hoards of players who eventually realize that they are lambs for the slaughter and leave. See you in Star conflict :)

pretty funny post here. did you think you were playing a pve game? how dare those evil bad guys blow up your ship. i mean what were they thinking? all noobs should be able to roam freely in a 300mil ship clearly. i mean this is a kiddie theme park game obviously. im guessing youre gonna go play a pve game now. well if you ever desire pvp and a challenge theres always EVE. i mean thats why i play the game. so if someone talks smack i can blow them up 200 times before i ask for an apology.

[Perverius]

引用自 .：

引用自 dark_horse_spirit：

The game is annoying when it comes to combat..and who the heck wants to hit there d-scan every few seconds...but hitting d-scan is not 100% either. I lost a 300m ship a few weeks ago and it totaly took any enthusiasm for the game away..it was like a gut punch then a ♥♥♥♥♥ slap by the game. I wouldn't mind losing a ship if there was more gratification in the fight..but the fights in eve are seconds and will never be fair...I sometimes think the game is very slandered for certain players, Ive been ganked by the same player and players in the same ships for years...When I get a new ship Ive spent stupid amount of time building it gets killed awefully fast. Ive concluded that ccp are eve players with inside info. For this reason when I do log in I don't even bother with missions or building ships anymore, I usually set up some bp and move onto another game..Like Star Conflict or elite...at least my efforts in creation aren't totaly gone when I get ganked or lose a fight.Eve well never change..these little complaint posts only attract the gankers to protect the game with comments like the ones above...soon you will be like the hoards of players who eventually realize that they are lambs for the slaughter and leave. See you in Star conflict :)

pretty funny post here. did you think you were playing a pve game? how dare those evil bad guys blow up your ship. i mean what were they thinking? all noobs should be able to roam freely in a 300mil ship clearly. i mean this is a kiddie theme park game obviously. im guessing youre gonna go play a pve game now. well if you ever desire pvp and a challenge theres always EVE. i mean thats why i play the game. so if someone talks smack i can blow them up 200 times before i ask for an apology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fACSf0HdFwk

I somehow see your future work application.

2003 - Present - Camping gates in EVE online.

[ChillCore]

引用自 .：

引用自 dark_horse_spirit：

The game is annoying when it comes to combat..and who the heck wants to hit there d-scan every few seconds...but hitting d-scan is not 100% either. I lost a 300m ship a few weeks ago and it totaly took any enthusiasm for the game away..it was like a gut punch then a ♥♥♥♥♥ slap by the game. I wouldn't mind losing a ship if there was more gratification in the fight..but the fights in eve are seconds and will never be fair...I sometimes think the game is very slandered for certain players, Ive been ganked by the same player and players in the same ships for years...When I get a new ship Ive spent stupid amount of time building it gets killed awefully fast. Ive concluded that ccp are eve players with inside info. For this reason when I do log in I don't even bother with missions or building ships anymore, I usually set up some bp and move onto another game..Like Star Conflict or elite...at least my efforts in creation aren't totaly gone when I get ganked or lose a fight.Eve well never change..these little complaint posts only attract the gankers to protect the game with comments like the ones above...soon you will be like the hoards of players who eventually realize that they are lambs for the slaughter and leave. See you in Star conflict :)

pretty funny post here. did you think you were playing a pve game? how dare those evil bad guys blow up your ship. i mean what were they thinking? all noobs should be able to roam freely in a 300mil ship clearly. i mean this is a kiddie theme park game obviously. im guessing youre gonna go play a pve game now. well if you ever desire pvp and a challenge theres always EVE. i mean thats why i play the game. so if someone talks smack i can blow them up 200 times before i ask for an apology.

Oh boy do I feel like playing this game after reading this ... such a warm welcome and I have not even launched the game yet. /s

[Shotgun]

引用自 ChillCore：

Oh boy do I feel like playing this game after reading this ... such a warm welcome and I have not even launched the game yet. /s

What exactly do you have an issue with? Sometimes things that you perceive to be problems aren't actually problems at all, so talk to me.

[ChillCore]

I'm more of a single player ... not looking forward to grinding (I don't do microtransactions is all) for nothing. and factions is not my thing. If that guy (nothing personal) is the spirit of the game ... not sure if I want to get into Eve at all?

引用自 Shotgun：

引用自 ChillCore：

Oh boy do I feel like playing this game after reading this ... such a warm welcome and I have not even launched the game yet. /s

What exactly do you have an issue with? Sometimes things that you perceive to be problems aren't actually problems at all, so talk to me.