Thorax Generalist fit?

[TwilightSparkle]

I'm flying a Thorax currently with 5 250mm railguns, mainly for lvl 1 and lvl 2 security missions.
However even at LVL 2 missions there is a suprising amount of frigates, and my big guns can't hit crap, on the other hand, my dual 150mms can't do crap against the cruisers.
My mid and low slots are fitted for the occassional PvP while I'm ratting, with webifiers and warp disrupters, with low slots fitted with CPU upgrades and warp drive stabilizers.
Should I equip some 200mm carbides? Or should I mount the dualies again?

[Baneken]

Thing is that you don't fit PvP stuff for PvE and vice versa also duals have a terrible tracking if you must use T1 then use scouts but preferably T2 though lvl 1 and 2 shouldn't bring that much of a problem with any set up.

However a Vexor and especially Ishtar(T2) with full drone skills beats 'rax anyday on misson running and other PvE simply by virtue of being easier to fit when you don't have to put guns on it.

[Shotgun]

If you insist on doing PvE in a gunboat, then learn to kite/fly away so that the NPCs are forced to chase you in a straight line, which will allow you to track them much better. But overall, drones and missiles work better for PvE stuff.

[battlecattle]

Use the 250s and equip a tracking computer with tracking script.

[Azrad Al'Azif]

Originally posted by ShadowCSGORage.com:

My mid and low slots are fitted for the occassional PvP while I'm ratting, with webifiers and warp disrupters, with low slots fitted with CPU upgrades and warp drive stabilizers.

*facepalm*

I suggest you go back to highsec, where is little pvp. Or you learn to read d-scan and local to identify threats in time. But with this fit, your mid and low slots are just wasted.

[TwilightSparkle]

Originally posted by Azrad Al'Azif:

Originally posted by ShadowCSGORage.com:

My mid and low slots are fitted for the occassional PvP while I'm ratting, with webifiers and warp disrupters, with low slots fitted with CPU upgrades and warp drive stabilizers.

*facepalm*

I suggest you go back to highsec, where is little pvp. Or you learn to read d-scan and local to identify threats in time. But with this fit, your mid and low slots are just wasted.

What fit do you recommend for ratting and PvE, with the ability to hold its own against maybe like a dessie ganker in 0.5. I'm in quiet sectors which are filled with miners and the occassional ganker, so while in local no one talks and the gankers obvisouly not gonna go "hey guys I'm a ganker"

[Shotgun]

Originally posted by ShadowCSGORage.com:

What fit do you recommend for ratting and PvE, with the ability to hold its own against maybe like a dessie ganker in 0.5. I'm in quiet sectors which are filled with miners and the occassional ganker, so while in local no one talks and the gankers obvisouly not gonna go "hey guys I'm a ganker"

No one's going to try to suicide-gank you if you're ratting in a T1 ship in high-sec, unless you're doing something ridiculous, like flying a faction-fit navy frigate. So you can go for a fully PvE-centric setup, if this activity is your goal.

[TwilightSparkle]

Originally posted by Shotgun:

Originally posted by ShadowCSGORage.com:

What fit do you recommend for ratting and PvE, with the ability to hold its own against maybe like a dessie ganker in 0.5. I'm in quiet sectors which are filled with miners and the occassional ganker, so while in local no one talks and the gankers obvisouly not gonna go "hey guys I'm a ganker"

No one's going to try to suicide-gank you if you're ratting in a T1 ship in high-sec, unless you're doing something ridiculous, like flying a faction-fit navy frigate. So you can go for a fully PvE-centric setup, if this activity is your goal.

I've seen people trying to gank T1 cruisers in my sector, we once had a Catalyst flying around webifiying Vexors and the like and killing newbies, probably thinking they had brought back some loot from low-sec ratting (?). The only thing I'm interested in knowing is blasters vs railguns.
Rails I find the 200mm rail guns to be quite effective with Anti-Matter charges and with a tracking computer it will be better.
I have yet to try Blasters but so far I know I need a MWD/afterburner to get in close, and the rest will be tanking fits. Are there any longer ranged blasters by any chance? I favour 5km ranges.

[Shotgun]

Originally posted by ShadowCSGORage.com:

I've seen people trying to gank T1 cruisers in my sector, we once had a Catalyst flying around webifiying Vexors and the like and killing newbies, probably thinking they had brought back some loot from low-sec ratting (?)

Not possible probable. This sort of aggression would trigger a CONCORD response. Ergo, it would have been a "suicide-gank." Trying to suicide-gank a T1 cruiser is more difficult than a Venture, because cruisers inherently have more hitpoints, and are usually mobile, unlike a mining ship, which sits still.

In order to be shot like that, you'd have to expose yourself to hostilities by doing something like stealing items that aren't yours, which would flag you as a suspect. So if you mind your business, the probability of someone attacking you is almost nonexistent.

[Azrad Al'Azif]

Originally posted by ShadowCSGORage.com:

What fit do you recommend for ratting and PvE

Originally posted by Simulation:

[Thorax, 20km range]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
1600mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Prototype Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I

50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Dual 150mm Prototype Gauss Gun
Dual 150mm Prototype Gauss Gun
Dual 150mm Prototype Gauss Gun
Dual 150mm Prototype Gauss Gun
Dual 150mm Prototype Gauss Gun

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead I x5

Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x2500
Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M x3300

Originally posted by Simulation:

[Thorax, 5km pvp]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
1600mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Prototype Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I

10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Warp Scrambler II
Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier
Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier

Modal Electron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Electron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Electron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Electron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Electron Particle Accelerator I

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead I x5

Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x5982

Originally posted by Simulation:

[Vexor, 75km range]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II
1600mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Prototype Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Drone Navigation Computer I
Drone Navigation Computer I
F-90 Compact Sensor Booster

Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hobgoblin I x9
Hammerhead I x8

Just some ideas, far from perfect.

[Matt]

if you are really enjoying PvE, I'd suggest that you try to get into a vindicator to to incursions. Blasters with web bonuses are the best way to deal damage if you can live long enough to apply it.

if you want to do solo missions, skill up to an ishtar or a Gila. Best mission boats are drone boats.

[Kblocks]

incursions are for noobs

[BobDoleReigns]

Originally posted by Kblocks:

incursions are f̶o̶r̶ ̶n̶o̶o̶b̶s̶ cancer

Fixed it for you

[TwilightSparkle]

Originally posted by sano:

if you are really enjoying PvE, I'd suggest that you try to get into a vindicator to to incursions. Blasters with web bonuses are the best way to deal damage if you can live long enough to apply it.

if you want to do solo missions, skill up to an ishtar or a Gila. Best mission boats are drone boats.

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