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1.) yes the game sucks and nobody is denying that
2,) pretty much; ganking is the sublimity of pvp in eve the only true bastion of solo pvp out there. anyone can be a f1 monkey in a blob finding, scouting, preparing, killing, looting, the gank is a true solo gig.
3.) "oh its risk free you should be a null hemhorroid like 'us'" so I could be a mindless f1 monkey? So I could take my two characters and get blobbed by 50 dudes every single gate? So I could go to provi and perhaps catch a space hippie thats not watching intel/local? What is there in null thats actually worth doing?
4.) "Picking on someone who is away from keyboard or has just started the game and has zero clue and very limited game avatar skills."
4.a) What the hell is wrong with you? Do you play CS, COD, BF, ANYTHING by clicking "start match" and then taking the dog for a walk? The only thing that is more moronic than doing this is defending it. Have you been dropped on your head yearly?
4.b) Its a pvp game, you dont like it go play sim city or a flight simulator; everyone was new and everyone died. I dont see any gankers going out and purposely hunting new characters for reasons previously mentioned. git gud
5.) As I said, the game is about people; PVE is abysmally boring as you admit, 'real' pvp is abysmally boring as you admit. It is the hunt and the butthurt that makes new eden go round. F1 monkeys are too stupid and uninvolved in the game to care. They dont know the strategy, they dont know why they do what the fc tells them they have no investment in the ship they are flying. Thus I do not hunt f1 monkeys.
Providence is where carebears run to after high-sec gets too tough for them.
"Not Red Don't Shoot".
They maintain a KOS (a kill on sight list) of pirates, gankers, griefers, scum.
If they catch a said individual in their systems, they will actively hunt them down.
If you are not a griefer / scum, you WILL be left alone in their null system space.
If you're just a dude who is a sane, normal individual with zero psychopathic tendencies, you will be left alone in their systems. Simple as that. Mine, rat, explore, fly around, they don't care.
Basically, these are the good guys of Eve, normal, sane people and not psychopaths.
Reading bobdole's posts, two things stand out:
1) he hates the NRDS crowd and
2) he is afraid of them and afraid of going into their space because it won't be a gank, it will be a PvP fight and he will lose, every time.
So shotgun and bobdole do not go into null, they stay in high sec and gank beginning players in their first ship, usually the venture, and wait for "tears" and reaction from their victims.
These people represent the mainstream, psychopathic view on both the Steam forum and the Eve Online forum.
Both the "bitter vets" and CPP hate "carebears" who make over 90% of the population / alt toons.
Funniest business model for a game I've ever seen.
I know I've talked about this before, so I pulled it from my post history: http://steamcommunity.com/app/8500/discussions/0/357287935556999727/#c357288572119483475
I'm not kidding. I sat there in a T1 cruiser while getting fed intel chat from a friend who had a character in the block, and it was like half an hour of the "FC" yelling at people and causing a real scene while trying to form a defense fleet to kill me. And then he threw a fit and gave up because only like two dozen people bothered to respond.
I don't have any inherent problem with the whole "NRDS" thing. There were a few alliances in the early days of EVE that actually made it work, somewhat. It's just that Provi Block is composed of total weaklings and suckers, and aside from a few veteran CVA people, no one there has any idea what they're doing. But that's what you get from trying to build an "empire" composed solely of miners and mission-runners who join up for the sole reason of trying to escape high-sec wars from the alt corporations of bored null-sec vets.
The closest analogue I can think of with regard to Provi Block is the Eloi from H.G. Wells' "The Time Machine."
Send me an EVEmail (message me with Steam for character name) if you are still having trouble. If you operate near my location, I'd be happy to fly with you, if not, I can offer my advise.
Do I need to say it again? The whole peace and love thing sounds great until you realize somebody has to back it up. I've nothing against NRDS until the point where it becomes a joke; it works great for Eve Uni and they're respectable enough it actually somewhat works for them.
I've already got the hang of dealing with those pesky rats but now I'm looking for a way to make good ISK as an alpha while having fun. Once I get a pretty good bank I'll start getting into low and null sec and other PVP.
I was wondering if an alpha can do anything in incursions.
You can look into combat sites (combat anomalies, signatures and their escalations), it gives reasonable profit in form of rare module drops, and an alpha skilled cruiser/battlecruiser (Gnosis) should handle all of the high sec ones and some lowsec, too.
Scanning hackable data or relic sites is technically possible as Alpha, but you won't have access to cloaking which is very very usefull in low / null / wormhole exploration, which is where the money is.
There's faction warfare that you could probably do as an alternative... Look into that, especially considering you're interested in lowsec and pvp.
Level 4 missions will probably be out of your reach without battleships, appropriate skills and most t2 modules (though I'm curious if it is _possible_ to do them as alpha, it surely won't be easy or effective.)
If you wanted to go on the path of least resistance and do PvE missions, you could get your first plex and a battleship while training Alpha skills and getting standing necessary for level 4 missions, then quickly get the most important skills that you didn't have access for; Once you can do l4s, between mission rewards, loot, Loyalty Points and possibly salvage, it won't be particularly hard to get a plex every month and then some, and with access to more character skills you'll have more and more options (incursions? market pvp?). It might not be your best choice, but it is an option nonetheless. Lower level missions, available to alphas, aren't really lucrative however; l1 and l2s (frigate and cruiser sized) don't really give you much besides standings (reputation), and even l3s (battlecruiser level) aren't all that impressive.
Besides, buying plex is where the true ''f2p" side of eve shows up - the "let the other guy pay for it" model.
Treat PvP as a means to an end, and not an end in itself. PvP is a tool that serves a function for the achievement of something you desire (it doesn't necessarily have to be wealth). If you treat PvP as its own goal, then, even though you won't be a bad player, others will take advantage of you by making you fight for their goals under the pretense of furthering your well-being. It took me a few years to realize this, and I wasn't even part of any corporations/alliances that took obfuscated slave labor to any extremes.
That said, you can start making use of this tool much earlier than you think, especially if your goal is wealth.
I wait with bated breath about your ganking exploits versus those "space hippies who can't play" in Providence. Provide killmails, please, not that I don't believe you but.....
OK, I don't believe anything you write, LOL.
No one ever undocked.
By the way, the only ganking I ever did was hauler ganking, and a few fat mission runners. I also killed some AFK pods with bounties, but that's about it. Since about 2008, most of my time was spent running my two mercenary corporations, and being a member of a few others. And since they came out, half of my time, if not more, was spent inside wormholes.
So I'm not the Venture-slaying boogeyman you make me out to be. However, I support the Venture-killing ventures (pun intended) of others, because the reactions of players like you are the sole reason why this game is worth playing.
BTW I think you mean venture-killing-"vultures"
As venture means to explore in an unknown area, while Vulture is a bird which feeds off carrion ie. dead animals/animals killed prior with just their rotting flesh left
Yeah... I don't think its considered being a vulture if you're the one that makes the carcass... I'd guess 'predator' or 'anti-sheep' is the term you are looking for.
Wait, are you saying that miners are zombies?
okay sorry bye :(
Uh, once again, I was never ganked in high sec.
Once again, I got ganked in my FREE ship, in a gate camp in null (not low sec since there was a bubble).
I just find it disquieting that the game is basically a griefing simulator for psychopaths who look to "harvest the tears".
This game really shows what kind of a person you REALLY are.