Just got back into the game and... wow, the new Robin is terrible...

[©.VorteX]

Heyo


I just wanted to share my humble opinion about something, as a long-time fan of the original who just came back to BZ after months.

So yeah, i came back, heard about the whole new story, decided to start a fresh new game and.... wow.

I mean ok i've been genuinely enjoying the core gameplay these past few days - and i think i'm one of the few people on earth who don't hate the Sea Truck (nothing will ever compare to the Cyclops but that thing would fit almost nowhere in the stamp-sized map) - but i can't say i'm a fan of the new Robin.

Never before i have felt so detached from a character whose shoes i get to wear. She is rude, ignorant, obtuse, painfully unfunny and unbelievably preachy.

Like, when Alan illustrates how their kind can just switch bodies, she's like "humans only have one life!"
LOL are you for real?? There are, like, ENTIRE CULTURES that would beg to differ you dull ♥♥♥♥! You are speaking with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ alien! You should be representing humanity in a respectful way, not vomiting out your own narrow view.
Also would it kill you to thank Alan when he compliments you? for f--k's sake...
And that's just a couple examples.

This is a game where i'm supposed to fully immerse myself like i did in the first one (which remains vastly superior in basically every aspect) and immersion comes natural to me... yet the illusion is shattered every time she ♥♥♥♥♥ out a sentence or is needlessly hostile towards Alan or Maida.
I care about her fate only when i manage to actually not think that i'm her, but it's getting less and less natural the more i figure her out.

I also find the new PDA voice to be quite annoying. Sounds like someone who has serious pronunciation issues, and the attempts at humor are absolutely cringey.

Oh and the ham-fisted way they shoehorned in wokeness makes my eyes almost roll out their sockets.


Peace

[Deathwing]

I find Robin OK but I don't connect with her the same way as the first Subnautica.

I think it's because in the first one the character was silent and I never saw the body, always first person view and it was just me.

In this one I look at myself with a robo penguin and I see a character who is not me. She talks a fair amount and it doesn't sound like me. There is a lot of interaction with an alien and the replies I don't connect with. Too much character breaks the immersion that 'I am stuck in an alien ocean'. Now it feels like 'someone else is stuck in an alien ocean'. As a character she is fine but I enjoyed the first one feeling more like I was actually there.

[WilburForce]

I agree except with the last part. Where exactly is the wokeness? I

[©.VorteX]

Originally posted by WilburForce:

I agree except with the last part. Where exactly is the wokeness? I

Basically everywhere.

All the heroic characters are women, a large part of the cast is homosexual and the heterosexual white males are almost a freak show: we have a guy who looks like a pink molten turd with glasses, an old fart who obsesses over guano, the lab weirdo who makes paintings of bacteria and some doofus underling with a ridicolous mustache.

All these things don't bother me per se - i hang out with people of every orientation - but the way they are implemented is blathant and frankly it annoys me.

Also what Robin says - it being mostly individualist drivel - is punctuated by bouts of leftiness.

And that's not counting the plot, which is a seen-before-so-much-it-hurts evil corporation being evil and brave person trying to stop them kind of deal.
I mean sure lol let's blow up the lab, it's not like it might make everything a thousand times worse. Whoever wrote that clearly cares more about themes than logic.

Thank God for Maida. She saves the whole thing for me.

(full disclosure: i haven't beaten the story yet)

[TheGraveDigger]

Originally posted by VorteX:

Originally posted by WilburForce:

I agree except with the last part. Where exactly is the wokeness? I

Basically everywhere.

All the heroic characters are women, a large part of the cast is homosexual and the heterosexual white males are almost a freak show: we have a guy who looks like a pink molten turd with glasses, an old fart who obsesses over guano, the lab weirdo who makes paintings of bacteria and some doofus underling with a ridicolous mustache.

All these things don't bother me per se - i hang out with people of every orientation - but the way they are implemented is blathant and frankly it annoys me.

Also what Robin says - it being mostly individualist drivel - is punctuated by bouts of leftiness.

And that's not counting the plot, which is a seen-before-so-much-it-hurts evil corporation being evil and brave person trying to stop them kind of deal.
I mean sure lol let's blow up the lab, it's not like it might make everything a thousand times worse. Whoever wrote that clearly cares more about themes than logic.

Thank God for Maida. She saves the whole thing for me.

(full disclosure: i haven't beaten the story yet)

only two people are actually homosexual and that barely even shows up in the game
also what guy that looks like a pink molten turd is in the game?

[TyresTyco]

I dont mind Sam and Danielle being a couple or so. But I have problems with Robin not aknowledging anything she does? It's barebones.

She could at least say stuff when she finds pda with useful info. She could say stuff after visiting a new biome or leviathan. She could tell us how she fells at some situations especially since she has alan in her. She is so barebones that I cant believe they said "story is nearly done".. The first story had more VA. I'm pretty sure.

She only says some small one liners. For a game that wants to tell us a story there isnt really much story in it tbh.

They could also do more with maida and alterra.. alterra is supposed to find Robin and Maida right? Why arent there alterra bots or something on the hunt? Maida is basically just there to give you one fetch quest, one piece of info, some scans, plotholes and some pda where she goes rambo 8.. the way she is implented I just hate her for blocking the perfect base spot.

If the finale doesnt give us quests to escape the planet with maida together while alterra is hunting for us and alan making some fireworks. I call the story.. total wreckfest.

Again for a game that wants to tell us a story instead of letting us immerse fully in it. There is kinda none.

[Iconoclasm]

Robin is the video game equivalent of Michael Burnham from Star Trek Discovery.

[Kelkay DB]

Originally posted by VorteX:

Heyo


I just wanted to share my humble opinion about something, as a long-time fan of the original who just came back to BZ after months.

So yeah, i came back, heard about the whole new story, decided to start a fresh new game and.... wow.

I mean ok i've been genuinely enjoying the core gameplay these past few days - and i think i'm one of the few people on earth who don't hate the Sea Truck (nothing will ever compare to the Cyclops but that thing would fit almost nowhere in the stamp-sized map) - but i can't say i'm a fan of the new Robin.

Never before i have felt so detached from a character whose shoes i get to wear. She is rude, ignorant, obtuse, painfully unfunny and unbelievably preachy.

Like, when Alan illustrates how their kind can just switch bodies, she's like "humans only have one life!"
LOL are you for real?? There are, like, ENTIRE CULTURES that would beg to differ you dull ♥♥♥♥! You are speaking with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ alien! You should be representing humanity in a respectful way, not vomiting out your own narrow view.
Also would it kill you to thank Alan when he compliments you? for f--k's sake...
And that's just a couple examples.

This is a game where i'm supposed to fully immerse myself like i did in the first one (which remains vastly superior in basically every aspect) and immersion comes natural to me... yet the illusion is shattered every time she ♥♥♥♥♥ out a sentence or is needlessly hostile towards Alan or Maida.
I care about her fate only when i manage to actually not think that i'm her, but it's getting less and less natural the more i figure her out.

I also find the new PDA voice to be quite annoying. Sounds like someone who has serious pronunciation issues, and the attempts at humor are absolutely cringey.

Oh and the ham-fisted way they shoehorned in wokeness makes my eyes almost roll out their sockets.


Peace

your the reason that people call gamers racist, sexist, and homophobic. please do everyone a favor and shut the ♥♥♥♥ up

[Mirmel]

Originally posted by Iconoclasm:

Robin is the video game equivalent of Michael Burnham from Star Trek Discovery.

Michael Burnham is pretty OK though. I've not met new Robin yet so can't compare but thank you for not downplaying the new Robin as much as I've seen elsewhere in the forum.

[©.VorteX]

Originally posted by Iconoclasm:

Robin is the video game equivalent of Michael Burnham from Star Trek Discovery.

Spot on lol. Except UNW are not destroying the Subnautica franchise. At least not as bad.

[©.VorteX]

Originally posted by Mirmel:

Michael Burnham is pretty OK though.

A Mary Sue who can't act and is forced as a Spock sister who never existed is "pretty OK"?

Lol whatever floats yer boat.

[©.VorteX]

Originally posted by TheGraveDigger:

only two people are actually homosexual and that barely even shows up in the game
also what guy that looks like a pink molten turd is in the game?

It's three actually. We have Sam, Danielle and Manager Guy.

The pink turd man is the one called Parvan Ivanov. I mean c'mon look at him.

[Mirmel]

Originally posted by VorteX:

Originally posted by Mirmel:

Michael Burnham is pretty OK though.

A Mary Sue who can't act and is forced as a Spock sister who never existed is "pretty OK"?

Lol whatever floats yer boat.

Michael isn't the best character or any favorite of mine, not even close. But Michael could have been a lot worse. Maybe my expectations are just low I suppose and after hearing soooo much about how terrible Robin is I'd be happy to end up with a Michael :)

[©.VorteX]

Originally posted by Mirmel:

Michael isn't the best character or any favorite of mine, not even close. But Michael could have been a lot worse. Maybe my expectations are just low I suppose and after hearing soooo much about how terrible Robin is I'd be happy to end up with a Michael :)

Nono, after all Michal is indeed ways better than Robin.

[TheGraveDigger]

Originally posted by VorteX:

Originally posted by TheGraveDigger:

only two people are actually homosexual and that barely even shows up in the game
also what guy that looks like a pink molten turd is in the game?

It's three actually. We have Sam, Danielle and Manager Guy.

The pink turd man is the one called Parvan Ivanov. I mean c'mon look at him.

Yeah but three people being homosexual is not a “large part” of the cast

That’s like a very minor part of the cast

Also parvin looks more like a stereotypical mall cop, fat, got crumbs on his shirt

Has that gun he isn’t allowed to shoot

[kevlar]

Originally posted by Iconoclasm:

Robin is the video game equivalent of Michael Burnham from Star Trek Discovery.

this is exactly why I stopped watching it after Michelle Yeoh died. The show is just so blah now. Equivalent to the current, Robin.