Plothole ? (Spoilers for BZ and the original subnautica)

[gallant10]

how is marguerit not dead ?
it is literally impossible for her to be alive. absolutely no chance. here are some points that i've drawn

1. She's infected with kharaa.

it's stated VERY CLEARLY that the entire degasi is infected. you're telling me she survived that long ? let me tell you exactly how long she survived with kharaa (before riley cured it). in the subnautica trailer, in bart torgal's sea base where he die, it rusted when the aurora came. and the base, being made out of titanium, need YEARS to be oxidized by salt water. meaning marguerit survived kharaa for atleast a year. The PDA estimates that Kharaa incubates in two weeks and quickly kills its host after it reaches a substantial infection level. meaning marguerit needs to have a superhuman amount of immunity to even survive a month. the kharaa in marguerit's body seems to have reached the mid-stage, with her having an increase in aggression (hunting leviathans)

2. The reaper dragged her to the depths, not the surface.

to quote paul torgal : "Maida appeared out of nowhere. She had a seaglide in one hand, a jagged piece of scrap metal in the other. She meant to butcher that beast, or die trying. The last I saw her she had the metal lodged in its neck as the monster did its best to shake her, contorting off into the darkness.", "the darkness" here does not mean the void. cause the deep grand reef has no access to the void, as it is a cave instead of open water. the reaper probably swam to the lost river. yet somehow in BZ the reaper is used as a buoyant cause the corpse float to the surface ?. the degasi base that you found this log is at roughly 600 meters. and let me remind you, the deep grand reef is NOT open waters. it has a roof. the reaper would be stuck on the under the roof if they're floating.

[Evil Tim]

Yes, she absolutely should be dead several times over from the combination of Kharaa, surfing a dead Reaper across the Void full of territorial Ghost Leviathans and Alterra knowing where she is for a prolonged period while apparently changing from wanting to rescue the Degassi crew to not really caring about a survivor from it. It's one of the many, many results of BZ's sloppy writing.

[Andreas]

I don't know if this qualifies as a plot hole. It's rather really inept retconning.

Doesn't make it any better though. :P

[Evil Tim]

Originally posted by Andreas:

I don't know if this qualifies as a plot hole. It's rather really inept retconning.

Doesn't make it any better though. :P

Oh it's absolutely a plothole, being a gap in a storyline that goes against the flow of established logic. Mags ended the SN logs in a position where she had a fatal disease, was 600m down and fighting a pissed-off Reaper with a puny diver's knife. We are expected to believe she went from that to being halfway across the planet and suddenly not having Kharaa. A retcon doesn't have to create a plot hole (all it means is that new concepts are added and you are expected to apply them to prior events, not necessarily having to conflict with them), but this one does because it doesn't explain how she's still here.

[Deceptive Pastry]

This is a major plothole. The Aurora crashes 10 years after the Degasi, which means she has been alive for 10 years on the planet prior to the cure.

There's a section in the Enzyme Peeper log that says the unstable enzyme bears similarity to the stomach enzymes of larger predators. Maybe that is why you don't see infected Reapers, because they eat so many of the enzyme peepers, and perhaps it could be explained that eating the Reaper kept the infection at bay for a little while. If so why did her infection not progress but Bart's did? Did she just eat a lot more fish? And what about when she got to the Arctic? Would the unstable enzyme Peepers really make it all the way to the Arctic?

There are ways they could have attempted to explain how she survived a little bit longer, but if it were so easy to survive 10 whole years off the unstable enzyme then why did so many other things die?

[bongerman85]

diseases affect people differently maybe she was a carrier in the end... where she would get very sick and not be cured until after original subnautica game...

[Evil Tim]

Originally posted by bongerman85:

diseases affect people differently maybe she was a carrier in the end... where she would get very sick and not be cured until after original subnautica game...

...No. You do not have asymptomatic carriers for bacterial infections that attack the entire body of every species they come into contact with. I can accept variable rates since we've seen them (Aurora's doctor displayed late-stage symptoms almost immediately), but not someone surviving for ten years without any in-game justification.

[TyresTyco]

Well she is a strong diverse independent women. So strong that she could just defeat kharaa with her inner soul powers and the reaper with her abby style muscle arms that ofc got thiner due to being limited to plants.

Here I fixed the plot for you.

[Just Chill]

Originally posted by TyresTyco:

Well she is a strong diverse independent women.

Wait, wasn't Robin meant to be Mary Sue? :O

[Dynamiez]

Originally posted by TyresTyco:

Well she is a strong diverse independent women. So strong that she could just defeat kharaa with her inner soul powers and the reaper with her abby style muscle arms that ofc got thiner due to being limited to plants.

Here I fixed the plot for you.

i think she just ate a juicy fruit salad. that simple. you know... salad dont get karaa, karaa gets salad 💪🏼 it it the chuck norris of food sources

[Dynamiez]

Oh by the way.... little bit oftopic but does karaa infect plants?

[Evil Tim]

Originally posted by Dynamiez:

Oh by the way.... little bit oftopic but does karaa infect plants?

Well the bacteria is waterborne so presumably they're full of it, but it doesn't seem to affect them.

[The Big Brzezinski]

It's fairly obvious. Kharaa mutates organisms it doesn't kill outright, rewriting their genetic code and incorporating them into the genetic hive. You want to know why she could outmatch a reaper, survived for ten years on her own, travels by prawn suit, and wants to destroy Alterra's kharaa research?

It's because she's one of them now. She's no longer human. She's part of the kharaa.

[Evil Tim]

Originally posted by The Big Brzezinski:

It's fairly obvious. Kharaa mutates organisms it doesn't kill outright, rewriting their genetic code and incorporating them into the genetic hive.

A completely airtight theory as it only failed to do this 140 billion times and with every single lifeform on 4546B! Have you considered getting a job writing for Unknown Worlds?

[Festive Mints]

There's also the question of how she built bases with nothing but a repair tool, and how Alterra never found her greenhouse when they have a satellite in orbit, and a radar dish that can detect human lifeforms, even though it's just sitting on top of an iceberg with lights all over it.

[Evil Tim]

Originally posted by Festive Mints:

There's also the question of how she built bases with nothing but a repair tool, and how Alterra never found her greenhouse when they have a satellite in orbit, and a radar dish that can detect human lifeforms, even though it's just sitting on top of an iceberg with lights all over it.

And why she's acting so distrustful of Alterra when they sent a gigantic colony ship to pick up three people, one of whom was her. It's not like she's on the hook for anything that happened to Paul or Bart given there's evidence that exonerates her of having anything to do with that.