jezus the overwatch sucks in this game.

[Mr D Grim]

I had an enemy walk by 2 people on overwatch. stop right infront of one of them and shot them in the head to near death. instantly made me alt f4. cos im so not in the mood for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like that.

[Californiadreaming]

Are you watching your range as well as field? In setting overwatch, you are setting not just the field of vision but the range. Overwatch only triggers when an enemy walks through the actual cone you lay down, so if they are beyond the far end of the cone you laid down they will not trigger overwatch.

[Mr D Grim]

Originally posted by Californiadreaming:

Are you watching your range as well as field? In setting overwatch, you are setting not just the field of vision but the range. Overwatch only triggers when an enemy walks through the actual cone you lay down, so if they are beyond the far end of the cone you laid down they will not trigger overwatch.

the guy who got shot in the head. was the guy who was on overwatch. the enemy walked straight into his cone up to his face to shoot him.

and it aint the first bit of overwatch ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ i've witnessed either..

[Zak]

Nube question: Does the entire cone constitute the overwatch area? Or is it just the 1/2 round plane at the end of the cone that sets overwatch?

[Artek [General]]

Originally posted by Zak:

Nube question: Does the entire cone constitute the overwatch area? Or is it just the 1/2 round plane at the end of the cone that sets overwatch?

The entire cone.

To the OP: yes, overwatch in this game absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks. You can only use it in a completely open field / corridor with no cover and PRAY that one of the enemies will come by.
However i do call weirdness on the enemy actually walking into the overwatch area as still taking a shot. Are you sure he did walk through the overwatch cone? Or did he took a step from behind a cover? What enemy was it, specifically?

[Mimik]

As far as i know overwatch triggers only in the bright red circle not in the cone. i had situation when i set up my heavy on over, right in front of the doors but the circle was a little of leaving half a square not covered, and enemy could sidestep into cone shooting without triggering overwatch.

edit: i see we have two different experiences.

I usually set overwatch at medium distances covering corners ar doorways and they work relaitvely fine.

[Mr D Grim]

I booted up the mission again (it's the first haven mission for new jericho i got. maps the same each time so that's easy)

and i think i figured out why his overwatch wouldn't work..... and it's bloody retarded to say the least.

https://i.imgur.com/57uRFm7.jpeg

pointing my mouse on the wall with the door there. MAKES THE DAMNED STUPID ASS CONE MOVE UPWARDS.
idk if the original frustration was worse. or the frustration i feel now seeing this...

edit: just placed the cone correctly by aiming my mouse at the floor in the hallway beyond. and it all worked perfectly.. jezus christ.

[Mimik]

+1 it happened to me many times, its frustrating when we cant change overwatch after setting up even if the turn is not concluded yet.

[Vandal Savant]

Overwatch relies on Perception stat. It's possible for a soldier with really low perception to not even react to anything in their cone.

The cone takes some getting used to by getting a feel for how long it takes a soldier to get into position then fire, so it needs to be aimed beside obstructions instead of at them. I've had shots where my soldier has fired straight into a wall before the enemy ran out from behind it. At times it can work in my favor by moving through overwatch zones between nearby covers to "set it off" so other soldiers can move in.

[Noobiecanoobie]

Something I've never tried... intentionally use a narrower cone to avoid shooting at walls or other obstructions as enemy appears in view. Most of my overwatch fails relate to soldiers shooting barriers instead of enemies.

If this even helped, it would be very cumbersome.

[Artek [General]]

Originally posted by Noobiecanoobie:

Something I've never tried... intentionally use a narrower cone to avoid shooting at walls or other obstructions as enemy appears in view. Most of my overwatch fails relate to soldiers shooting barriers instead of enemies.

If this even helped, it would be very cumbersome.

No-no, that's indeed the only way to make it work. NO ENVIRONMENTAL OBJECTS IN THE CONE or i ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ guarantee your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ of a soldier will shoot a branch that the enemy will be sprinting behind.
Cones must only cover completely open areas, or else. Which of course, makes it so much easier for enemies to not just... Walk through them.
Overwatch in this game exlusively exists to ambush corners or to catch enemies when they are moving out of cover. Nothing else. All other cases you're better off taking potshots, or using the remaining AP to move to a superior position.

[Muton]

It's not the cone, its the orange area over the ground. The enemy has to walk through the red area as displayed on the ground during the setup. If your cone does not show up on the ground then it wont trigger. Otherwise your cone is pointing up off the ground. I've never had a problem with properly setup OW not being triggered

[Muton]

OW works great you just need to know how to set it up, optimize it, and never overwatch past any cover, because the shot will be blocked by the cover

[Clail]

Overwatch works great, but you need to really think about how you are placing your cones and what will potentially be between you and the target.

[Muton]

Remember, the overwatch area that is active, is shown on the ground. The ground will light up orange when you're setting up the cone.. If you dont see the ground light up, then your cone is off into the air and won't trigger any overwatches

[XenonII]

Overwatch works mostly... But every so often the game ♥♥♥♥♥ itself and no matter how you set it up, the soldier doesn't do ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Because the game must have been developed by lab monkeys.