any benefit to doing "the gift" early?

[snuggleform]

- out of curiosity, what happens if you let it expire?

- since it triggers the behemoth, why not wait for as long as possible instead of say, triggering it with 10 days to go?

[pascal.difolco]

Dunno what happens if it expires, but indeed I agree it should be done as late as possible...

[snuggleform]

I was expecting it to gift me a manticore, but it just replaces your original one, right? Of course you get "free" weapons to fight the behemoth with.

[kiloromeo]

Few days after The Gift expires Mount Egg turns into The Big Bad Boy anyways. Only now you don't have armed Manticor for free ready to take up the fight.

... But you get a Resesrch-project to build weapons for aircrafts ...

[snuggleform]

I feel like this sort of thing happened before too in one of the other dlcs where you wanted to delay starting the events as much as possible. Maybe it was legacy so you delayed umbras? Or was it blood + tit so you delayed pure, I forgot.

[Mhblis]

Was the pure. Because they were just so beefy.

[Blathergut]

By doing The Gift as early as possible:

1. You get to fight flyers early = more resources.
2. The behemoth doesn't always destroy. Some times it damages and sometimes it is a source for infested havens which are cool missions.

I'd rather have the dlc content sooner than later to enjoy it.

[snuggleform]

Ew, the gift replaces the ship you entered the mission with - so I got a manticore in exchange for my synedrion flyer =____________=

And unlike other missions it doesn't give you the opportunity to change your soldiers equipment it just goes straight into the mission.

[snuggleform]

Originally posted by Blathergut:

By doing The Gift as early as possible:

1. You get to fight flyers early = more resources.
2. The behemoth doesn't always destroy. Some times it damages and sometimes it is a source for infested havens which are cool missions.

I'd rather have the dlc content sooner than later to enjoy it.

1. the amount of resources doesn't significantly push you ahead, since you have to invest even more resources to equipping fighter squadrons than you get back (except for the first free couple fights)

2. cool is cool and all, but how's the loot and resources from infested havens? Worth letting behemoth do its thing?

[Blathergut]

1. No, the amount of resources is not tremendous. If you raid for airships once you have the air tech, they come w weapons, so that can help. But like most things in the game, one way is not tremendously better than another. If you want to wait, wait. There's no right or best way.

2. I don't remember loot from infested clearly. It's more having a different type of mission that I like. I like doing all the various haven missions and raids because it lets you play on so many more tactical maps and different opponents. I know some say, 'I don't steal' or 'I don't want to fight the factions when I'm trying to save them' but I like the mission variety. Loot was probably the same as a normal haven defence.

[snuggleform]

Originally posted by Blathergut:

1. No, the amount of resources is not tremendous. If you raid for airships once you have the air tech, they come w weapons, so that can help. But like most things in the game, one way is not tremendously better than another. If you want to wait, wait. There's no right or best way.

2. I don't remember loot from infested clearly. It's more having a different type of mission that I like. I like doing all the various haven missions and raids because it lets you play on so many more tactical maps and different opponents. I know some say, 'I don't steal' or 'I don't want to fight the factions when I'm trying to save them' but I like the mission variety. Loot was probably the same as a normal haven defence.

I definitely appreciate the different artwork and settings for the 3 different factions if you take the time to do all the different types of sabotages and rescues you see many different angles of their architecture, but the balancing of raiding has been a sloppy mess for well over a year now. I quit complaining about it for about 6 months hoping they would address it in the DLC, but nope it's still on their to-do list. There's just not enough punishment and too much reward for constant raiding.

[Blathergut]

I might do all of 4 or 5 in an entire campaign. It speeds up research mostly. If you want to take the time and get the research another way, the game lets you. I've played many campaigns where I never raided, never stole. But you do miss out on many maps and enemy combinations. One of the best ever was raiding Syn and fighting on the food map. It is incredibly gorgeous with its colours. Fighting two and three levels up, room by room, was intense. Just getting up a stairwell one level was a challenge w two infiltrators in the room above.

[snuggleform]

Yup I raided synedrion food for the first time last run, I was like wow that's really cool architecture. Even Anu food was interesting too, it fits them thematically.

[Blathergut]

That's part of the delight of the game. It's not about winning or taking an easy way. I just want to enjoy those tactical battles. I've tried teams of 3 but they can get overwhelmed too easily. Four usually can manage. Five, w the second heavy, makes the battles fairly easy. More is just not fun for me. I'll rarely use vehicles (but they can be useful on scavenging missions when you only have 4 dudes).

[snuggleform]

I used to ignore vehicles but I like building one asap to buttress the early game and also to stick one by itself in a plane and go scouting since it can survive ambushes easily.

[Blathergut]

I just find it not enjoyable to stick one naked dude or a vehicle in an airship and fly around exploring sites. But that's just a personal preference; like some don't like to raid/steal. I just wouldn't do that. But it is a valid and very effective strategy. I know some use it extensively, focusing on activating bases (maybe 8-10 or more) and a couple said airships covering as many of the sites as possible to gain resources. Just not my thing to enjoy.