Good berserker class combos?

[jasta85]

So, I know that berserker combos well with heavy due to jump pack, war cry etc. But I'm wondering if there are any other good classes it works well. I've gotten 3 berserkers from anu haven defense missions and while I crossed one of them with heavy I wanted to build the others differently.

[snuggleform]

Yes, one really good cross class is with Assault. Take a look at rapid clearance + adrenaline. You activate rapid clearance first, then hit adrenaline, which makes all your weapon attacks only cost 1 AP - even those heavy weapons like deceptor which normally cost 3 to fire. You can make AP by using 1 AP to kill something which gives you 2 AP back.

Be sure to use Dash before you hit adrenaline rush for obvious reasons. Dash is great to help position for a good adrenaline rush attack.

Berserker in general is a very excellent recipient of Onslaught since they make the most use out of AP when under Adrenaline Rush, so in addition to just crossing it with an assault, you can use other assaults to pass him APs to make him even more excellent.

I would also seriously consider a team that has everyone with berserker as a second class so your entire team is immune to mind control and limb damage, it's kind of silly tbh. To me berseker is tied for top spot for most generally useful splash class.

[M(i)ech]

Adrenaline Rush has hidden effect of halving the accuracy, unless that was removed since I tested for that effect back in March or so.

[lunarknight64]

Assault: Strong. You have dash to help you get into melee range and rapid clearance/adrenaline rush for a big clear. Onslaught is also great for when you don't want to run into danger.
Heavy: Pretty good. Brawler is a massive 50% damage boost to melee and war cry is always good to have. You mention jump jet as an option, which isn't bad, but personally I would always try to run vengeance torso anyways for 1 AP melee attacks.
Sniper: Okay. High accuracy armor break and ignore pain so you don't need to worry too much about breaking an arm is cute but overall there are better ways to strip armor. It's not listed in the skill but I believe adrenaline rush gives an accuracy down so not the best combo.
Priest: Bad. None of their skills really synergize, and your head slot is taken up by a priest head so you can't even use the daze immunity head for adrenaline rush. Frenzy head also doesn't hit them self so it's hard for them to get into melee range.
Technician: Bad. Again no real synergies, but nothing actively negative. Okay if you unlock technician and want to make a high leveled one right away and don't really care about your berserker skills at all. Also technician wants technician arms so can't use vengeance torso.
Infiltrator: Very bad. Melee range obviously breaks stealth so the classes really don't got together at all.

Overall berserker is an okay class but is mostly held back by vengeance torso giving melee weapon proficiency, so you can have an assault/heavy as a better, faster melee attacker. Although I list a bunch of these combos poorly, it's mostly because I find assault to be a better support class for dash and onslaught. In reality the passives on berserker are good enough that you can run it as a secondary on pretty much anything and be okay.

[wei270]

Originally posted by lunarknight64:

Overall berserker is an okay class but is mostly held back by vengeance torso giving melee weapon proficiency, so you can have an assault/heavy as a better, faster melee attacker.

that is why you go assault with heavy weapon perk and go terminator mode, still the best in the game.

berserk rank 7 lets you fire heavy weapon with 1 action, assult rank7 7 lets you get 2 ap every kill.

if you set it up correctly a single assult bersekr terminator can clear the map, i hope the dev don't nerf this too.

[lunarknight64]

If you're going for a terminator build like that you can just go for assault/heavy with vengeance and melee everything to death. Melee is obviously shorter range, but has better damage (especially with the ancients dlc) and doesn't require ammo. You also only need 5 will points instead of 10, so it's a bit more flexible for smaller groups.

[wei270]

the benefit of the mechine gun terminator vs melee terminator is that

1. machine gun terminator you can get it as soon as you hit rank 7
2. it works better with sniper mark
3. berserk has arugebtlly better passive in this regard. damage reduction + speed and damage increase.

yeah vengeance torcel + Scyther is sweet and all but by the time you get it the game is effectively over.

[snuggleform]

Originally posted by wei270:

the benefit of the mechine gun terminator vs melee terminator is that

1. machine gun terminator you can get it as soon as you hit rank 7
2. it works better with sniper mark
3. berserk has arugebtlly better passive in this regard. damage reduction + speed and damage increase.

yeah vengeance torcel + Scyther is sweet and all but by the time you get it the game is effectively over.

Isn't the game also effectively over if you have a ranged terminator build with deceptor or whatever other gun you prefer?

[wei270]

oh it can still at a long while at that point, with vengeance torcel + scyther you probably already did 80% research

where as you can get the ranged terminator in the second month if you are lucky

[lunarknight64]

while certainly nice, you don't even need sycther. mattock is already a 1 hit kill on pretty much every arthon and triton and even a regular marduk's fist can probably hold you over until then. Previously you can have the ancients dlc fully unlocked by the second month anyways (and even finish the whole game if you rush), but with the recent changes it would be harder since you can't spam faction raids.

[snuggleform]

Agreed, there are a lot of people who falsely claim you need scyther to make melee terminator work. Marduk's fist with a close combat specialist lets you one shot trash mobs on your way to teching to scyther for the end game pandorans, and even for stuff you can't one shot it's the most efficient use of AP per damage without requiring any ammunition or pre-shredding. You really only need to find 1 such person and then feed them APs with Onslaught.

[wei270]

i only play on highest difficult, and Marduk will not one shot most trash mobs, mattock sure but that is only one step away from a sycther.

[lunarknight64]

Other than the specifically tanker versions of enemies it will. I'd have to double check but with the perfect set up of brawler, close quarters specialist, and reckless I think the damage was roughly 275. I can't remember if that's with or without the vivisection damage bonus though. And obviously getting 2 personal traits can be difficult, but just close combat specialist is generally good enough.
By the time the enemies that can survive become very common you can have the mattock and be on your way

[snuggleform]

Originally posted by wei270:

i only play on highest difficult, and Marduk will not one shot most trash mobs, mattock sure but that is only one step away from a sycther.

with CQC it will

[finnwalTD]

Originally posted by jasta85:

So, I know that berserker combos well with heavy due to jump pack, war cry etc. But I'm wondering if there are any other good classes it works well. I've gotten 3 berserkers from anu haven defense missions and while I crossed one of them with heavy I wanted to build the others differently.

Berserker+infiltrator this is only 1 combination which can be used. All other are weaker.
Of course weapons and armor should be used depending on the perks

[finnwalTD]

Originally posted by lunarknight64:

Infiltrator: Very bad. Melee range obviously breaks stealth so the classes really don't got together at all.

Berserker it is not about melee weapon at all. For melee weapon you have assault+infiltrator+vengeance torso.
"Berserker+melee weapon" - nice joke