Worst Dead or Alive game?

[Pvt Tommy]

Which one is by far the worst and which one is considered the best to many? Also, how would you rate this game?

[Slayer]

Right now 1st DoA is worst DoA game simply because it's old. As for best it's a tie between 5 and 6.
2nd best. Because DoA5 has much better stages and no dumb meter.

[J Jonoh Jamson]

DOA6 is probably the worst. Sold so poorly that it kind of killed the DOA franchise. Compared to other fighting games like Tekken, hardly anybody plays DOA any more and it will be a long time til Koei Tecmo will want to make DOA7 after how DOA6 performed.

Some might say DOA1 is the worst because DOA1 feels clunky and outdated if you play it today, but at the time it came out it was one of the best 3D fighters, huge sales, kick starting the DOA franchise and even saving Tecmo from bankruptcy.

I think DOA5 is considered the best by many, had years of support to build huge character roster and tons of dlc costumes. But for me DOA4 is the best, it also got a decent amount of content like female Spartan from Halo as an unlockable character, only unlike DOA5&6 where you have to buy season passes to get everything, I appreciate that you just pay one price to buy DOA4 and you get everything.

As for rating DOA6, I rate it slightly above average like 7/10. It's a fun game, good for newcomers, just doesn't live up to DOA5 that came before, no tag mode and less characters than DOA5.

[Slayer]

Originally posted by J Jonoh Jamson:

DOA6 is probably the worst. Sold so poorly that it kind of killed the DOA franchise. Compared to other fighting games like Tekken, hardly anybody plays DOA any more and it will be a long time til Koei Tecmo will want to make DOA7 after how DOA6 performed.

DoA6 sales not that bad. It's just japanese publisher being unreasonable as always. Just look at numbers. And take in account that DoA5 had 3 versions(vanila, lr, ultimate).
Someting tells me that TK didn't like not the game sales but costume/hair sales numbers.

Originally posted by J Jonoh Jamson:

Some might say DOA1 is the worst because DOA1 feels clunky and outdated if you play it today, but at the time it came out it was one of the best 3D fighters, huge sales, kick starting the DOA franchise and even saving Tecmo from bankruptcy.

Sales and impact is irrelevant. Gameplay wise its worst DoA game.

Originally posted by J Jonoh Jamson:

I think DOA5 is considered the best by many, had years of support to build huge character roster and tons of dlc costumes.

But when devs try to do the same with DoA6 community gone nuts.
All fighting games like this. They add old characters trough DLC. And no this is not gonna change. Because fighting games was always like this before DLC it was ultimate turbo etc editions.

Originally posted by J Jonoh Jamson:

But for me DOA4 is the best, it also got a decent amount of content like female Spartan from Halo as an unlockable character, only unlike DOA5&6 where you have to buy season passes to get everything, I appreciate that you just pay one price to buy DOA4 and you get everything.

Saddly these days long gone. Gamers lost this battle.

Originally posted by J Jonoh Jamson:

As for rating DOA6, I rate it slightly above average like 7/10. It's a fun game, good for newcomers, just doesn't live up to DOA5 that came before, no tag mode and less characters than DOA5.

Both game games have roughly the same roster.
While i miss tag it's not that good gameplay wise. Especially online.

[ワイフ至上主義者]

There is no bad DOA games - some are better than the others, but none of them are bad.

[CZI]

I think DOA6 is the best as the best graphics.
You juse need decent hardware.

[Stutterteturtle]

pros
- Bright stages
- New game

cons
- No lobby match at launch
- Reselling Nyotengu and Phase 4 as DLC
- Removed Tag mode
- Removed many Online modes
- Downgraded Character visuals (bad anatomy, too much compressed textures, bad weight skinning)
- Stage Danger Zones are toned down
- Stage visuals from 2015 (no reflection at all and no ambient occlusion in 2019 wtf. most important thing is there is no unique art style, it just feels like unreal 4 indie games)
- Censored costumes
- Only 0~1 new costume for male characters (total 2)
- Bad new animations
- Boring brand new characters
- Terrible costume unlocking system
- Lack of stages (total 13 stages, 4 stages from previous game)
- No improvement for gameplay (it's changed from the previous game. can't say that it's "improved")
- Broken Side Attack
- Lack of variation of juggle combos
- Short and boring story mode
- Many details are gone
- Bad CPU AI
- No new game modes (DOA Quest is not actual game mode. it just 2nd tutorial and it's not good for tutorial)
- Bad lip sync on English dub

there are more problems but I will stop.

I can even make a book about "why doa6 bad"

[still serves Coke old fashioned]

Tbh ! Doa6 isn't even bad. IMO it's just the way they tried to promote it (bass' face in nyo's private zone) which made them have an even worse reputation then they've had before.
Also, the season passes being more expensive than the actual game was also a mess !

Overall the game had a long lasting community but I'm already looking forward for 7.

[AGA | prinnyuber]

Originally posted by Slayer:

Right now 1st DoA is worst DoA game simply because it's old. As for best it's a tie between 5 and 6.
2nd best. Because DoA5 has much better stages and no dumb meter.

The rage of tekken with your choice to activate power blow or power lawnchair! Are you sure that doa5lr had a hidden meter system?

Great content and gameplay aside, I would say the worst business practice started on 5 then it progressively went worst later. Things are looking grim with either the reboot of doa and doa7.

[Pvt Tommy]

Originally posted by AGA | prinnyuber:

Originally posted by Slayer:

Right now 1st DoA is worst DoA game simply because it's old. As for best it's a tie between 5 and 6.
2nd best. Because DoA5 has much better stages and no dumb meter.

The rage of tekken with your choice to activate power blow or power lawnchair! Are you sure that doa5lr had a hidden meter system?

Great content and gameplay aside, I would say the worst business practice started on 5 then it progressively went worst later. Things are looking grim with either the reboot of doa and doa7.

I wish to see another DoA game. I hope they can do away with the crazy ass DLC practices though. I also wanna see proper ports of the games too.

[AGA | prinnyuber]

I understand that fanservice was the selling point of the series, however, is this even a fighting game anymore? With the amount of cosmetic dlc in here, I think we are playing barbie dress up simulator instead of a fighting game. We need better dlc characters dammit! Not rehashes from doa5lr and doa6!

Look, I want to be hyped for the next doa as much as everyone here. I dont want anything in the back of my mind thinking that I might regret my purchase later on. Like locking my main behind a paywall day one. >.<

[Judge Mocha]

I find DoA 1 to be the worst. It just aged very poorly, especially compared to more recent fighting games.

As for the best, that is easily DoA 5: LR. The combat in the game is fast paced as I love it, the "ultimate" system is fairly balanced, the combo system is very satisfying, especially with the use of critical bursts to add a flare to the combos, the stage transitions implementing a "rock, paper, scissors" game to determine a defense or successful attack that adds a cinematic drop on the opponent. This is easily my favorite in the series.

As for DoA 6, I feel it's pretty mid. I like the visuals and the core combat is pretty fun. The lack of some of the features from previous games is a bit disappointing, such as Tag mode and the thrilling stage transitions that involved a slight mini-game to determine attack or defense. I really hate how they changed the "ultimate" system to a single button press that comes out nearly-instantly, which took away the satisfying feeling of using your ultimates that was in the previous game. I feel DoA 6 could have been a lot better if they didn't change or remove features from the previous games that worked perfectly fine.

[Slayer]

Originally posted by AGA | prinnyuber:

The rage of tekken with your choice to activate power blow or power lawnchair! Are you sure that doa5lr had a hidden meter system?
Great content and gameplay aside, I would say the worst business practice started on 5 then it progressively went worst later.

It was more comeback mechanic than meter. With i hate too(people need to work to comeback not just press magic button). My problem with 6 meter how its implemented.

Originally posted by AGA | prinnyuber:

Things are looking grim with either the reboot of doa and doa7.

Well DoA 6 sales was not that bad. It's only underperformed in DCL sales.

Originally posted by AGA | prinnyuber:

I understand that fanservice was the selling point of the series, however, is this even a fighting game anymore?/

DoA selling point was looking good. Most of the time DoA games was best looking games in their generations. Even DoA 6 second only to MK(overeal MK do look better but mk bodies feels kinda off in their proportions). It looks better than tekken 7 or SC6.

Originally posted by AGA | prinnyuber:

With the amount of cosmetic dlc in here, I think we are playing barbie dress up simulator instead of a fighting game. We need better dlc characters dammit! Not rehashes from doa5lr and doa6

No one forces you to buy them.

Originally posted by AGA | prinnyuber:

Like locking my main behind a paywall day one. >.<

It always been like this. Even in good old days. All devs do this. But only DoA community go nuts because of this and then complain when devs abandon the game.

[AGA | prinnyuber]

I know that the paywall thing has been here. Its just a hard pill to swallow. Marie, Honoka, and Cyber Raidou made it to the main roster and they were dlc in 5lr. X.x

I couldnt disagree with you, Slayer. The character models look better than any fighting game. Even SF6 doesnt hold a candle to it. Mk1s is eeh ok.

Sure doa 6 sales isnt that bad but lobbies were missing and population declined within a month upon release because of the 90k tournament. Instead of using the resource to polish doa 6 TK just had to squander it. In hopes that everyone will get hooked in. Welp that failed! New content support and patches stopped a year after.

[Pvt Tommy]

Originally posted by AGA | prinnyuber:

I couldnt disagree with you, Slayer. The character models look better than any fighting game. Even SF6 doesnt hold a candle to it. Mk1s is eeh ok.

I don't know about that. The female character's belly buttons look off to me.

[Mith]

Originally posted by AGA | prinnyuber:

I couldnt disagree with you, Slayer. The character models look better than any fighting game. Even SF6 doesnt hold a candle to it. Mk1s is eeh ok

This. I modded belly buttons, but still the most impressive models to date.

Originally posted by Paul Allen's profile:

There is no bad DOA games - some are better than the others, but none of them are bad.

Exactly.

Despite some flaws (stages, the meter, and so on...) DOA 6 is an amazing game. Wish we could get a DOA 7 soon.