Why all the hate?

[Miuna]

Seriously, review bombs and people hating on the forums, why?
I know i know, lobbies right? These have been promised so don't repeat this, sure it probably should of come with the game, i don't deny a bias, not many people i know play DOA so i don't care about lobbies, not saying others shouldn't but still, a big fuss like this over a lobby?

Season pass - i agree, stupid price, but just buy the bits as they come out what you want if you must have them, i never buy costumes on DOA, too pricey considering i play different characters, not just one or two. But now days everything tries selling a over priced season pass, just don't buy it.

These two aside, i see the game is being slammed, is there a reason aside the above? I have played for about 3 hours and think its DOA... its the same old fighting game its always been, fun to play and nice characters...

[Harem Route]

The third reason for me would be the gindy nature of it.
To unlock a costume, you must farm "costume parts". One costume needs around 500-1000 of these parts. For one win in arcade mode (that's 10 battles of 2 rounds) you get one piece. One. As in 1/500. Or 1/1000.
And that one piece is for a random costume. Not even random costume of a character you play as. Just random. Of any costume in this game.
And then if by some miracle you manage to get all the parts of one costume, you still need to purchase it with yet another ingame currency.

That's not my idea of fun by a longshot.

Now, about lobbies. You're really downplaying this. Not having the ability to play a fighting game with your friends is not a small thing. I for once couldn't care less about random people in ranked matches. I only want to play with friends, for fun. Cuz, you know, that's what the games are for. Fun.
And you know, not having lobbies at launch wouldn't be a HUGE deal if it wasn't their 2nd strike. DoA5 still doesn't have them, despite their promises of adding lobbies.
So, until I actually see them in the game - I won't believe it. It is a missing feature and it's a huge feature.

Season Pass... meh... take it or leave it. I hate the price, obviously, but I bought almost all the DoA5 DLC over the course of years when they went on sales. So it's not a big deal. But you have to agree that the price is outrageous and what's more - it's not just the costumes.
They actually cut the characters from the game (specifically, Phase 4 and Nyotengu) to put them as Deluxe Edition and Preorder bonus respectively. Surely they will sell them sepparately at a later date, but it IS content that was free in DoA5 and was cut just to make more money.
Now, Mai - I can understand. She was a DLC character in DoA5 and is a DLC character in DoA6. It's fine. But the rest? Not so much.

[Hicky Mori]

I personally didn't buy it because of the price. Because it's 63€ (70€ in 12 days) for the base game. (and it's not cheaper at key sellers)

I haven't played previous DoA's but i really like the characters. I would get into it if it was cheaper.

[Miuna]

The grind is a hit or miss for me, i get where people come from but i hear quest mode offers close to a 100 points or more a go... i have yet to try quest mode so i wont say if this is worth it but it seems to reduce grind. I like making costumes slow to gain, it keeps me playing, the random thing again is a hit or miss, i get why people are mad here, but like for example, i suck of Grapplers like Bass, Tina, Bayman ect, whilst i excel as the Speed/power hitters like Hitomi, Honoka for power or Marie, Christie and Kasumi for speed (never could master Ayane), point being, i would never get the grappler costumes unless they was stupidly easy, so i get the anger but i ain't complaining in a way as i get costumes for ones i wont earn otherwise (the downside being, i would rather get say Marie's costumes over Bayman who i wont use).

The lobby, yeah i am overlooking it here, i know. Its honestly i just don't have friends on steam who play DOA... so i struggle to sympathise with this one for the hate. I know that's just me and respect people do have groups to play with, honestly this is just me being selfish, but they are apprently coming...

I agree the characters behind deluxe was bad, i got deluxe i admit for these but i wasn't to fussed about it. As for season, i wont buy it, maybe cheaply but i think others should be the same, if you must get it, if not leave it.

[Ceph Seven]

Because these people are too focused on DLC practices and what's "missing", treating it like it should be a strike against the core game itself. It's just petty behavior from a generation of spoiled, entitled gamers who have nothing better to do.

[Blue Eyes White Coffee]

Costume parts
The only thing I absolutely hate
It's dumb and grindy even if you say you can farm it at the DoA quests because of its RNG nature
Also, have you ever find yourself getting 500 part for a 100 part junk costume? That ♥♥♥♥ hurts

What happened to clearing challenges, stories, achievements, etc to unlock more of your favorite characters? Why can't I just ignore all those characters I don't care about? Why am I getting all male costume parts when the only one I wanted is Marie's school costume?

[dannyj147]

Originally posted by Cephrien:

Because these people are too focused on DLC practices and what's "missing", treating it like it should be a strike against the core game itself. It's just petty behavior from a generation of spoiled, entitled gamers who have nothing better to do.

Yep. I am enjoying this much more than SFV, Tekken 7 and Soulcalibur 6. If only people could focus more on gameplay.

[Hicky Mori]

Originally posted by dannyj147:

Yep. I am enjoying this much more than SFV, Tekken 7 and Soulcalibur 6. If only people could focus more on gameplay.

The gameplay looks fun to me. But not 70€ fun. And this is one of those very few games who cost the exact same at key selling websites.

Usually games are 50€ or 60€ tops over here.

I would love getting into it but not at this price.

[Providence 777]

Originally posted by Miuna:

, i don't deny a bias

But there is no bias though
PC and console all have the same features and are missing the same features.
The PC version is actually the most stable, and performs the best.

The people freaking out have no idea what they're talking about.

[Miuna]

Originally posted by Blue Eyes White Coffee:

Costume parts
The only thing I absolutely hate
It's dumb and grindy even if you say you can farm it at the DoA quests because of its RNG nature
Also, have you ever find yourself getting 500 part for a 100 part junk costume? That ♥♥♥♥ hurts

What happened to clearing challenges, stories, achievements, etc to unlock more of your favorite characters? Why can't I just ignore all those characters I don't care about? Why am I getting all male costume parts when the only one I wanted is Marie's school costume?

It would be nice to disable characters so you only earn costumes for enabled ones, so you could earn say Marie, Kasumi and Honoka and disable others, they enable them when you got all the stuff you want.

Originally posted by dannyj147:

Yep. I am enjoying this much more than SFV, Tekken 7 and Soulcalibur 6. If only people could focus more on gameplay.

This... I am having fun playing.
I don't defend a bad game, especially if i buy it, i agree thoughts should be heard and get some people are upset, but no one is saying the game plays good and its fun... just it costs a lot for dlc no one cares about.

[Phosphorescence]

Originally posted by Tom Sawyer:

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I would agree on the Grindy nature but Personally...every base unlockable outfit is ♥♥♥♥. the only ones im actually trying for is Diego and NiCO. And Diego's base outfit is fine. NiCO...well i would like a new outfit but otherwise My only Gripe and Correct me if Im wrong, but you cant choose Which outfit part to work on. it seems random. That IMO is complete ♥♥♥♥ and its such a High number on them too BUT DOA quest do give large amounts for rather simple quests.

Lobbies...Personally I don't care. I don't play MP in Fighting games. Everyone one is a overly sweaty tryhard and makes it unfun. Only time i actually have fun sweating in a Fighting game is when i'm VS friends But on PC none of my friends play fighting games so i'm basically alone here.
But and again correct me if im wrong but Can you at least just directly fight against friends here or is it forced random. I rather not waste any of my time with the MP mode to find out myself...not that i have anyone to try it with anyway.

Yeah the season pass is complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at that price. But well who is compulsive enough to go buying Every single Cosmetic even for characters they don't use often or even like. hell even with characters i like I wont buy EVERY outfit just the ones I Want. which is what everyone should do. Pick and choose unless your that obsessive of having Every Single Thing unlocked.

[Miuna]

Originally posted by Providence 777:

Originally posted by Miuna:

, i don't deny a bias

But there is no bias though
PC and console all have the same features and are missing the same features.
The PC version is actually the most stable, and performs the best.

The people freaking out have no idea what they're talking about.

My bias comment was actually more just saying i don't deny my cares for lobbies is low due to not using them... i am essentially bias for my selfish opinion there but i do agree with you comment.

Originally posted by Shioro:

Originally posted by dannyj147:

Yep. I am enjoying this much more than SFV, Tekken 7 and Soulcalibur 6. If only people could focus more on gameplay.

The gameplay looks fun to me. But not 70€ fun. And this is one of those very few games who cost the exact same at key selling websites.

Usually games are 50€ or 60€ tops over here.

I would love getting into it but not at this price.

True, it should ideally have at least launched with a better sale to get the numbers rolling. My concern is it dying fast, i love playing DOA long term but i am average at best, not a counter queen like the masters, so i don't wanna be stuck with 200 players before march ends lol. Lower price would of definetly shipped more numbers.

[Evaide]

Originally posted by Tom Sawyer:

One costume needs around 500-1000 of these parts. For one win in arcade mode (that's 10 battles of 2 rounds) you get one piece. One. As in 1/500. Or 1/1000.

Quest mode offers 100-400 outfit parts in one go, online offers ~24-50 if u win i think (but there's a little notification online saying "outfit parts *10 through month of March!" or something, so normally I think we'd get 2-5 parts. Could be wrong).

[Playahater#1]

A April fools joke? Dead or Alive Ultimate 2004 have better online options than a Dead or Alive 2019.. Why gamers standards so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ low? Koei Tecmo spend more time wallet raping instead making a complete game.. LOL

[Josef]

I'll just wait for DOA 6: Ultimate or Last Round
LUL

[Playahater#1]

Originally posted by Akrid Flux:

If you can't see all the problems with the game, then you have no self-respect, its just that simple, shouldn't even have a need to ask other people. Wish they had a DLC for common sense tsk tsk

Well said.