Tamaki is the Venus Vacation character coming to DoA 6

[Kuriishi]

Thanks to vagonumero13[www.freestepdodge.com] over at FSD we now can see the voice files added in the last patch.

Main files of note are:

• fv_skd_jp_doa6_appeal_mitorechatta
  
• fv_skd_jp_doa6_battle_fa_kanjitene
  
• fv_skd_jp_doa6_appeal_konyawanomuzo

According to Blue Eyes White Coffee (an Avid VV player) "mitorechatta dame yo" is one of the phrases which Tamaki uses. Another one is "Kanjitene" during her burst animation (in VV) and finally, the phrase "konyawanomuzo" (I'mma drink tonight) is another indication (it's her taunt in VV, appeal is the taunt button in DoA 6) and Tamaki is known for her drinking habits in VV. The others are mostly universal. So it's pretty much confirmed to be Tamaki.

Thanks again to Blue Eyes White Coffee for the video showcasing the voice files in Venus Vacation:
https://youtu.be/5zrW8aHZk8k

Thoughts?

[Horrible Orbit]

Nguyên văn bởi Kuriishi:

Hmm I disagree on DoA being a "weeb franchise" because that implies that Koei Tecmo acknowledges that demographic when really their aim is to cater to the Otaku crowd at home for the most part (now anyway). The fact that there is an overlap in "weeb" interests is a mere coincidence.

Most of the difference between an otaku and a weeb is country of origin, so I'd say it's more than a coincidence. Of course, I'm not implicitly or otherwise badmouthing either demographic; people like them have given me fantastic recommendations of new anime and hentai in the past.

[76561198009192365]

Nguyên văn bởi Horrible Orbit:

While that is an agreeable take on Leon, Gen Fu, and Eliot, it's odd that someone would play DOA but be repulsed by weeb trash. It seems to me that trashy, weeby, unpretentious fun is an integral part of the DOA series. The tone of the series is very much rooted in a combination of kung fu cinema and sexploitation.

DOA until 6 never felt to me like it was some trashy game for weebs ala Venus Vacation.
Even 5 was still somewhat OK in that regard.
But the tone has certainly changed in favor of those disgusting loli characters.
And if someone thinks garbage character like this one,from utter garbage game is better then Leon,Gen-Fu,Jacky etc. Then you gotta be insane,lol

@Providence 777: Kula is totally out of place in this game,worse than Nico.
Dont brag pls. You possibly weren't even around when DOA1 was released or even 2 on Dreamcast. And majority of the others here. STFU

[Blue Eyes White Coffee]

and now he's using the age card

[Providence 777]

Nguyên văn bởi SKEL3T0R:

@Providence 777: Kula is totally out of place in this game,worse than Nico.
Dont brag pls. You possibly weren't even around when DOA1 was released or even 2 on Dreamcast. And majority of the others here. STFU

I played Super Turbo on SNES when it was NEW, get out of here child, you're talking to an OG.

You're a poser, calling a fighting game staple (Kula) "repulsive", just because you don't recognize her, and have no reverence for the genre.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

What got He-Man's relative offended like that?

Like, you don't like young looking girls, that's ok, no need to make a fuss about it.

You think Gen-Fu or Leon were cool? Good for you, we don't care.

Yea, I get it, you're upset because your fav isn't in the game yet, but, like, are you 5 to throw a tantrum?

[Horrible Orbit]

Nguyên văn bởi SKEL3T0R:

DOA until 6 never felt to me like it was some trashy game for weebs ala Venus Vacation.
Even 5 was still somewhat OK in that regard.
But the tone has certainly changed in favor of those disgusting loli characters.
And if someone thinks garbage character like this one,from utter garbage game is better then Leon,Gen-Fu,Jacky etc. Then you gotta be insane,lol

Strange. I've been playing DOA for the better part of two decades, and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jfzh2s3jlE was the official advertisement for the first DOA game I ever played. It was quite trashy even in those days, with graphics that were explicitly meant to sexualize the characters. Plus, if what I've heard is true, Itagaki's workplace conduct was far creepier than the age of a few characters and he was heavily involved in most of the series.

[hightime1011]

Nguyên văn bởi Horrible Orbit:

Nguyên văn bởi SKEL3T0R:

DOA until 6 never felt to me like it was some trashy game for weebs ala Venus Vacation.
Even 5 was still somewhat OK in that regard.
But the tone has certainly changed in favor of those disgusting loli characters.
And if someone thinks garbage character like this one,from utter garbage game is better then Leon,Gen-Fu,Jacky etc. Then you gotta be insane,lol

Strange. I've been playing DOA for the better part of two decades, and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jfzh2s3jlE was the official advertisement for the first DOA game I ever played. It was quite trashy even in those days, with graphics that were explicitly meant to sexualize the characters. Plus, if what I've heard is true, Itagaki's workplace conduct was far creepier than the age of a few characters and he was heavily involved in most of the series.

Are you serious crazy? DEAD OR ALIVE IS AWESOME for all who wanted in the DREAMS. football , nba, etc always got cheerleader the same ! Swimsuit models. Cindy Crawford boys dreams. You must be not normal to not like this game! I serious there no FLAPPING in this game. All battle of Beauty VS the BEAST aka handsome men. I fight better more when my girls characters are sexy! I own all kind of fighting game and DEAD OR ALIVE is the best in game play! I appreciate what is it beautiful and pretty is. Not like you !

[Providence 777]

Nguyên văn bởi hightime1011:

Nguyên văn bởi Horrible Orbit:

Strange. I've been playing DOA for the better part of two decades, and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jfzh2s3jlE was the official advertisement for the first DOA game I ever played. It was quite trashy even in those days, with graphics that were explicitly meant to sexualize the characters. Plus, if what I've heard is true, Itagaki's workplace conduct was far creepier than the age of a few characters and he was heavily involved in most of the series.

Are you serious crazy? DEAD OR ALIVE IS AWESOME for all who wanted in the DREAMS. football , nba, etc always got cheerleader the same ! Swimsuit models. Cindy Crawford boys dreams. You must be not normal to not like this game! I serious there no FLAPPING in this game. All battle of Beauty VS the BEAST aka handsome men. I fight better more when my girls characters are sexy! I own all kind of fighting game and DEAD OR ALIVE is the best in game play! I appreciate what is it beautiful and pretty is. Not like you ! :lunar2020thinkingtiger:

please re-read their post, and understand that Horrible Orbit isn't disrespecting the game, his point is that the things that make DOA awesome have always been part of DOA

SKEL3T0R is the fraud pretending that he understands the franchise.

[Horrible Orbit]

Based on his profile, I suspect that hightime1011 was joking, but in case he's not... Just because something is sexualized doesn't make it worse. I'm not claiming that the series had a longstanding aesthetic flaw, but rather that its imagery simply is sexual.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Nguyên văn bởi Horrible Orbit:

Based on his profile, I suspect that hightime1011 was joking, but in case he's not... Just because something is sexualized doesn't make it worse. I'm not claiming that the series had a longstanding aesthetic flaw, but rather that its imagery simply is sexual.

Then again, sometimes sexualization is considered that while in reality it wouldn't.

When fighting using characters with a dress and you see their underwear, sure, it can be considered "sexualizing the character", but for me, I'm just like "if she had to fight using that outfit, that's how the dress would behave normally".

Sure, some outfits are indeed made to be...alluring...but somehow it doesn't feel out of place. Nyotengu's catsuit? She's the naughty tengu princess, I legit see no issue with her wearing that, heck, it's in her character to wear it. If Mai would wear that outfit? No issue there. So yea, it doesn't feel out of place on Nyotengu, but it might've been a bit out of place on say Kasumi.

Then again, what is "right" and what isn't is heavily influenced by one's culture, so it's understandable that some think it's too much, while others see no problem with it. It's just sad when one side doesn't understand we're all different.

[Serious]

Is this really a conversation about sexualization in DOA??? :D
It is a game with girls... -> depending on your attitude you could determine every game with female characters as sexualized. But even if it is... whats the problem.
It's just a game.
With expensive DLCs you CAN, and not have to buy.
If you dont like Lolly Characters skip them.

All is up to you.

[Providence 777]

Nguyên văn bởi Serious:

Is this really a conversation about sexualization in DOA??? :D

It's more about the weeb/otaku nature of the franchise.

We have a poser here (SKEL3T0R) who thinks they know the franchise, faking outrage at the inclusion of Kula because, as they claim: "no other fighting game has such a repulsive character". Completely forgetting that she came from KOF

[Horrible Orbit]

Nguyên văn bởi I:P マスカレーナ:

Then again, what is "right" and what isn't is heavily influenced by one's culture, so it's understandable that some think it's too much, while others see no problem with it. It's just sad when one side doesn't understand we're all different.

True, which is deeply unfortunate. All too often a person's culture has more of an influence over their mind and soul (if there is such a thing) than the individual. People are too eager to gamble away their futures (and possibly their afterlives) on the premise that they've already heard what's right and what's wrong from a third party, and are too reluctant to claim personal responsibility for their own morals. I, for one, plan to uphold personal freedom until I'm invariably murdered for doing so. Afterwards too, if applicable.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Nguyên văn bởi Horrible Orbit:

Nguyên văn bởi I:P マスカレーナ:

Then again, what is "right" and what isn't is heavily influenced by one's culture, so it's understandable that some think it's too much, while others see no problem with it. It's just sad when one side doesn't understand we're all different.

True, which is deeply unfortunate. All too often a person's culture has more of an influence over their mind and soul (if there is such a thing) than the individual. People are too eager to gamble away their futures (and possibly their afterlives) on the premise that they've already heard what's right and what's wrong from a third party, and are too reluctant to claim personal responsibility for their own morals. I, for one, plan to uphold personal freedom until I'm invariably murdered for doing so. Afterwards too, if applicable.

Reaper: "So, how did you die?"
HO: "I was killed because I was pro personal freedom"
Reaper: "Gosh that's sad, but welcome to the afterlife, what do you plan to do now?"
HO: "I plan to make campaigns on how ghosts have the freedom to choose who they want to haunt".

(no offence, I just thought it would be a funny scenario)

But yes, it's hard for someone to get out of a mentality that was taught to them for possibly their whole life unless something extreme happens that fully shatters that mentality and forces them to rethink if it's good or not. Some such mentalities are good, others not so much, but I'm not here to judge.

In the end, one's decisions are their own, some blame ghosts for tempting them or such, others are afraid of them, and what they choose to do with the information is their own choice.

[Horrible Orbit]

Lol that interpretation was just barely literal enough to squeeze out such a silly scenario, but I believe I understand the concern you're implicitly describing. I don't think it's natural or literally inevitable to be murdered for upholding personal freedoms, but historically, few beliefs incite as much violence against their believers as a genuine appreciation for human rights.

Nguyên văn bởi I:P マスカレーナ:

In the end, one's decisions are their own, some blame ghosts for tempting them or such, others are afraid of them, and what they choose to do with the information is their own choice.

Of the two, it's probably more unwise to fear temptation than ghosts, whether its cause is supernatural or not. Both are irrational, and fade with enough time and exposure, but a fear of temptation can inhibit personal growth and understanding.