The Talos Principle 2

The Talos Principle 2

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GreenHouse! Nov 4, 2023 @ 7:48am
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"Desolate Island" is such a disaster of a World.
Seems like that World had next to zero QA or care into stopping any kind of exploiting. On every single Level you can take both tools and clones outside. And just a clone with a platform allows you to skip most Levels. Or for example I took a Jammer outside one of the Levels, and it just allows you to pretty much make every single puzzle a joke. Really weird to see that little care after all previous Worlds had very few if any kind of exploit. But in the "Desolate Island" there's tons of them. What even happened there? :lunar2020thinkingtiger:
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Оркодав Nov 4, 2023 @ 8:49am 
However, Desolate island is most easiest map so that "work-arounds" are not necessary
аnŌn Nov 4, 2023 @ 8:49am 
Horrible level design is Croteam's specialty.
joridiculous Nov 4, 2023 @ 10:12am 
since you have played TTP you should know Croteam allow for exploits and alternative solutions in their puzzlers.
Kleerex Nov 4, 2023 @ 10:57am 
Those clones won't be interactable though. As for the tools, good luck getting them into other puzzles.

I was able to bring a clone outside a puzzle, and I could even switch to it, up until I entered another puzzle. My joy was short-lived.
Last edited by Kleerex; Nov 4, 2023 @ 10:57am
Albie There Nov 4, 2023 @ 11:28am 
You could just play as intended without hacking, how about that?
Goblin Nov 4, 2023 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Kleerex:
Those clones won't be interactable though. As for the tools, good luck getting them into other puzzles.

I was able to bring a clone outside a puzzle, and I could even switch to it, up until I entered another puzzle. My joy was short-lived.
You don't have to "enter" another puzzle, as OP already stated you can just jump straight into the end switch room with the right setup.
Them disabling foreign objects in puzzles now also already goes to show that "allowing exploits and alternative solutions" has been cut back significantly. There's not even stars that require breaking stuff out, unlike the first game.
GreenHouse! Nov 4, 2023 @ 11:54am 
Originally posted by Kleerex:
Those clones won't be interactable though. As for the tools, good luck getting them into other puzzles.

I was able to bring a clone outside a puzzle, and I could even switch to it, up until I entered another puzzle. My joy was short-lived.
You can 100% make clones be interactable. How that works is really iffy, so you can still make them work while outside if you know how to.

Originally posted by joridiculous:
since you have played TTP you should know Croteam allow for exploits and alternative solutions in their puzzlers.
One thing is to add small stuff that is kind of "exploity", and another is to be able to take tools outside on every single level and make all puzzles be stupidly easy because of it.
Last edited by GreenHouse!; Nov 4, 2023 @ 11:56am
Tiasmoon Nov 4, 2023 @ 12:03pm 
Originally posted by GreenHouse!:
One thing is to add small stuff that is kind of "exploity", and another is to be able to take tools outside on every single level and make all puzzles be stupidly easy because of it.

You aren't competing with anyone but yourself. If you want to cheat against yourself, by all means do so. Its your right to choose that option.
Kleerex Nov 4, 2023 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by Tiasmoon:
Originally posted by GreenHouse!:
One thing is to add small stuff that is kind of "exploity", and another is to be able to take tools outside on every single level and make all puzzles be stupidly easy because of it.

You aren't competing with anyone but yourself. If you want to cheat against yourself, by all means do so. Its your right to choose that option.

A non-standard solution is still a solution, so I see nothing wrong with it. If someone would rather try to break the game instead of playing it the intended way and are having fun while doing so, why not?
joridiculous Nov 4, 2023 @ 3:46pm 
Originally posted by GreenHouse!:
Originally posted by Kleerex:
Those clones won't be interactable though. As for the tools, good luck getting them into other puzzles.

I was able to bring a clone outside a puzzle, and I could even switch to it, up until I entered another puzzle. My joy was short-lived.
You can 100% make clones be interactable. How that works is really iffy, so you can still make them work while outside if you know how to.

Originally posted by joridiculous:
since you have played TTP you should know Croteam allow for exploits and alternative solutions in their puzzlers.
One thing is to add small stuff that is kind of "exploity", and another is to be able to take tools outside on every single level and make all puzzles be stupidly easy because of it.
you can do that in A LOT of puzzles all over the game. No one is forcing you to do it.
This is a Single player game, you are not competing against anyone (unless speed running, which you most definitely is not)
I haven't cheesed anything out of any levels (yet), but i also know how to finish every (afaik) level without doing any puzzles.
bschultz3189 Nov 5, 2023 @ 10:48am 
I managed to get 2 clones out with a platform and a cube in desolate island. I used them to jump into the golden gate puzzle early and now I'm stuck. It won't let me complete it and when I reset it starts me inside the puzzle again. Ahhhh I don't want to start all over lol
PsyBlade Nov 5, 2023 @ 11:01am 
Originally posted by bschultz3189:
I managed to get 2 clones out with a platform and a cube in desolate island. I used them to jump into the golden gate puzzle early and now I'm stuck. It won't let me complete it and when I reset it starts me inside the puzzle again. Ahhhh I don't want to start all over lol

There's a code to load old saves, check other posts about it
bschultz3189 Nov 5, 2023 @ 11:08am 
Originally posted by PsyBlade:
Originally posted by bschultz3189:
I managed to get 2 clones out with a platform and a cube in desolate island. I used them to jump into the golden gate puzzle early and now I'm stuck. It won't let me complete it and when I reset it starts me inside the puzzle again. Ahhhh I don't want to start all over lol

There's a code to load old saves, check other posts about it
Finally found it. So dumb you just type 46497999 on main menu and hit play. Why do they have to hide it so frustrating
Last edited by bschultz3189; Nov 5, 2023 @ 11:49am
joridiculous Nov 5, 2023 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by bschultz3189:
I managed to get 2 clones out with a platform and a cube in desolate island. I used them to jump into the golden gate puzzle early and now I'm stuck. It won't let me complete it and when I reset it starts me inside the puzzle again. Ahhhh I don't want to start all over lol
reset checkpoint should put you outside puzzles. (its not the same as the key command "reset")
Winobot Nov 5, 2023 @ 11:47am 
Just because you found an exploit it doesn't make it a bad level. It's not like it got some game breaking glitches or something. It's really baffling why you made such a long post just to complain about this.
Last edited by Winobot; Nov 5, 2023 @ 11:47am
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