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Seks Mashina(PMA) 2019 年 2 月 22 日 上午 11:46
Is yakuza Kiwami 2 a terrible too?
So i just beat Yakuza Kiwami right after Yakuza 0(one of the best game i have ever played) and im completely shocked how indescribable bad this game was. Literally everything about this game is bad. The most annoying secondary characters, absolutely inappropriate boring music(i don't know how is this possible, because yakuza 0 had AMAZING music) and even almost every second substorie was crap like 'wow dude u just crashed into me, pay me or fight"
The main story was OK but i seriously lost my ♥♥♥♥ laughing when the entire Kiryu's famili just died due to the fact that he could not kill the the most worst man in the world LUL
Ofc i know that Kiwami is just a remaster of a old game, but I am very surprised at how bad was it, especially after Zero. So i I wanted to ask if any next Yakuza games will be as good as Zero? Should i wait?
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Seks Mashina(PMA) 2019 年 2 月 23 日 上午 4:59 
引用自 so_D
do you just play this game after zero immediately ?
no wonder why you didnt like it

about other yakuza games they say 2 is great and 3 some people like it 4 some people say thats its one of the best 5$6 dont know about them
Yep, beat Zero a week ago and instantly pre-ordered Kiwami o.o
Lightning 2019 年 2 月 23 日 上午 5:11 
I loved Kiwami as much as 0 but I didn't play the original so everything was new to me. It totally feels dated but that's just logical. Thaaaat said, maybe the Majima Bizarre Circus there made me love it more than I should, though I agree about the music.

I haven't played Kiwami 2 but most of my friends said is the better in the series rn.
MeatShake 2019 年 2 月 25 日 下午 1:23 
引用自 Naokaji
引用自 MeatShake
Glad I'm not the only one baffled by the ton of sidequests that just involve walking into someone and they demand payment or you bash their head in. Like they built a library of scenarios for sidequests but all they could come up with was you bump into someone and they get angry or you talk to someone and they get angry.

They just wanted to make sure players get the theme of "The town has gone to hell" even if they only do 5% of the side quests.

Okay I get that but now I'm noticing every 5 minutes I get attacked by a transvestite or transsexual lol

Were all these in the original? A relic of the times I guess.
最后由 MeatShake 编辑于; 2019 年 2 月 25 日 下午 1:25
drz30 2019 年 3 月 15 日 上午 5:15 
I agree Kiwami is a HUGE letdown compared to 0. It's worse in every aspect of the game.
Since it's a remake of the first game it was probably to be expected. But I'm just very disappointed playing it after a great game like 0.
最后由 drz30 编辑于; 2019 年 3 月 15 日 上午 5:16
Ragna 2019 年 3 月 15 日 上午 6:55 
I actually loved Kiwami. I have played the original, so seeing the old gang all polished up and a bit more motivation for Nishiki was a great experience, add to it the ME system and it's love.
The thing about the side quests is actually a conundrum since they were there in the original, so if you changed them up you'd have old fans screaming bloody murder that "THEY CHANGED IT" and if you leave them be, new players that started with 0 will be disappointed.
Also finally Tiger Drop.





And the best thing Kiwami has over 0: no f*cking RNG-fest Disco Minigame plastered over 7 substories... which means you can actually fight Amon in this game.

Disclaimer: The above point is in no way a display of personal disfavour towards said minigame. A study conducted by Touhou University professors has in fact proven that those sub stories are incompletable ;)
Utopian101 2019 年 3 月 15 日 上午 7:36 
引用自 Roxas
And the best thing Kiwami has over 0: no f*cking RNG-fest Disco Minigame plastered over 7 substories... which means you can actually fight Amon in this game.

Disclaimer: The above point is in no way a display of personal disfavour towards said minigame. A study conducted by Touhou University professors has in fact proven that those sub stories are incompletable ;)

Dancing was my favourite minigame though :(
Ragna 2019 年 3 月 15 日 上午 7:38 
All power to you then. For me it's still what's keeping me from going after amon...

And yes, I am bad at rythm games... Loved Karaoke though
最后由 Ragna 编辑于; 2019 年 3 月 15 日 上午 7:39
Tr0w 2019 年 3 月 15 日 上午 10:00 
引用自 伊滓実
if Kiwami is terrible then wait to play Y6...that one is the really bad one :D
Surely you meant the Western version of 3 is the really bad one?
Ragna 2019 年 3 月 15 日 上午 11:23 
To be quite honest, I don't really think Yakuza has a "really bad one"... Except for dead souls, but we don't talk about that one
Duckilous 2019 年 3 月 15 日 下午 4:03 
引用自 Utopian101
引用自 Roxas
And the best thing Kiwami has over 0: no f*cking RNG-fest Disco Minigame plastered over 7 substories... which means you can actually fight Amon in this game.

Disclaimer: The above point is in no way a display of personal disfavour towards said minigame. A study conducted by Touhou University professors has in fact proven that those sub stories are incompletable ;)

Dancing was my favourite minigame though :(
I don't exactly remember the dancing minigame was RNG-based either.
Nito 2019 年 3 月 15 日 下午 4:08 
The Dancing is not bad on hard is even fun but the lack of Retry on Yakuza is seriously irritating
Strider924 2019 年 3 月 15 日 下午 7:47 
引用自 Roxas
To be quite honest, I don't really think Yakuza has a "really bad one"... Except for dead souls, but we don't talk about that one

Even then is Dead Souls a bad game though? Sure it's my pick for the worst game in the Yakuza series, but there were still things I found enjoyable about it. This was the first Yakuza game to feature Majima as a playable character and the boss battles could get pretty intense. Also Majima's theme was awesome and my favorite theme from the game so I'm glad they brought it back for that one segment in Kiwami. That being said, combat against regular zombies did become boring and repetitive (not to mention those god-awful forced partner sections) and I did find the side quests and exploration pretty lackluster.

Funny enough it is through Dead Souls that I was able to get one of my best friends into the Yakuza series. He is a big zombie game fanatic and borrowed the game from me because it looked cool. After playing through the game, he really enjoyed the story and characters and was willing to give the main series a try. From there he proceeded to play through the entire series (including Kenzan and Ishin) and is now one of the biggest Yakuza fans out there.
Straybow 2019 年 3 月 15 日 下午 7:51 
I remember that the controls felt weird. The sheer absurdity of walking around normal kamurocho when the next street over was filled with zombies was also enjoyable. Ryuji also had a great singing voice, better then Saejima even.
LArc7thHeaven 2019 年 3 月 15 日 下午 8:13 
Well i love both yakuza series on PC. Most complaint about 0 being better than kiwami is the fact that SEGA gives us chronological series (start from 0) but to me correct comparison for Kiwami is with the first Yakuza (2005) since it's more like a faithful remake than total remake and also to commemorate 10th anniversary of first yakuza (2005, since yakuza series so far never had sharp down point and RGG studio always improving it's formula unlike capcom (RE2 remake scores better because ppl compared it gameplay and atmosphere to RE 5/6 which deviate long from it's series since it's not led by Shinji Mikami) and all RGG games were supervised by Nogashi-san himself so there's rarely quality drop except the story.
Hard to compare 8th game in the series to 1st game remake since we mostly never played yakuza 1 (i never had PS console in my life) and the news for SEGA bringing RGG 6 to PC is a very great news to test their dragon engine on PC and hopefully we got Kiwami 2.
So far i can praise Kiwami 2 for bringing more Majima humor, can't stop watching his bomb defusal scene on yt
最后由 LArc7thHeaven 编辑于; 2019 年 3 月 15 日 下午 8:27
Duckilous 2019 年 3 月 15 日 下午 8:29 
引用自 LArc7thHeaven
unlike capcom (RE2 remake scores better because ppl compared it to RE 5/6 which deviate long from it's series since it's not led by Shinji Mikami)
I never heard anyone praising RE2 Remake for simply being better than RE 5/6, wouldn't RE7 receive that honour first anyway?
All I heard is that the remake is genuinely good and the PC port is fantastic.

the news for SEGA bringing RGG 6 to PC is a very great news to test their dragon engine on PC
There is no news that SEGA is bringing Yakuza 6 to PC. If you're referring to this financial report[www.vg247.com], that is not news! That is possibly just a typo, not a confirmation.
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