Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice

Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice

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Mr. World Aug 14, 2023 @ 8:22am
Demon of hatred ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks
Such a drag. 3 health bars you can’t deathblow to reduce, huge hp. Only thing you can do is chase him down to land a couple of hits rinse and repeat. ♥♥♥♥ this. What is the purpose of this boss in a game like this? That ♥♥♥♥ is the worst boss I’ve ever encountered in any game. Ruined my experience tbh.
Last edited by Mr. World; Aug 14, 2023 @ 9:43am
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Apekatt Aug 14, 2023 @ 9:08am 
Surprised that jump master Laurence is not a fun boss?? He took me 6 tries on my first playthrough and I didn't even cheer when I beat him, like with more bosses, instead I was just so glad it was over. Now, I agree that he definitely is the worst boss in this game and hardest too(a lot harder than the final boss, that's for sure, but there are several ways to make the fight somewhat less painful. For example, Divine Confetti, Ako sugar or spiritfall, fire gourd, Phoenix Umbrella and Malcontent in phase 3. However, if it's too painful(yes it is) then there are two simple solutions: Either you do the DoH skip or you just skip the boss completely.
Mr. World Aug 14, 2023 @ 9:12am 
I’m at AP 11 and vitality 18. Probably missing upgrades.
Apekatt Aug 14, 2023 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by Valtiel:
I’m at AP 11 and vitality 18. Probably missing upgrades.

Vitality caps at 20 and attack power can go up to like 14 in a normal playthrough or something, might be more. But with the right tool you can max out attack power to 99... Or you just play several ng+ on the same character
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Alexoferith Aug 14, 2023 @ 3:24pm 
AP has nothing to do with it. You can defeat it at your current AP level.
To defeat daemon of Hatred, you really have to be at its side, literally face to face so to speak. Confetti and Ako sugar will definitely help. Always stay close at its feet. You can parry its right leg stomp and move in a circle around it in anticlockwise. And be prepare to run away when it jumps up in the air as it's going to do a big stomp with fire explosion. But pay attention to the green sign showing once after it lands, grapples in and put in a hit or two.
Items that help this fight are confetti, Ako sugars, and most importantly, the Malcontent (finger whistle). Malcontent can totally stun DoH, giving you enough time to put in 5 to 7 hits depending how fast you react. You can only use Malcontent 3 times. After that, it will not have any effect on DoH at all. So, remember that and plan your attack accordingly. The general rule is to use malcontent on DoH at the 3rd stage, i.e. when it is on its last live because during this stage, DoH's attack will be the most powerful ones. But using the Malcontent at this stage will totally stop it from executing those powerful fire attacks.
Similar to other bosses, once its health is by one third, 50% and 75%, it will be stunned at these level.
Lastly, you really have to know its attacks so you can avoid being hits, like its homing firing balls attack - just run in a large circle. This will avoid the fire balls though homing in at you but will always miss you. The best way is to run in large circle but gradually reducing the size of the circle so eventually you can get close to DoH
Mr. World Aug 14, 2023 @ 9:06pm 
Thank you guys for investing time to help me. I brought him to his third phase twice. Despite using malcontent I lost because I stuck between him and the fire ring and could’t see myself. I swear %50 of my deaths comes from camera going bananas in corners. I’d probably beat him if I stop deflecting his fire swipes in the first two phases. I gotta farm Ako too.
Mr. World Aug 14, 2023 @ 9:11pm 
Originally posted by Lourdess Apekatt:
Originally posted by Valtiel:
I’m at AP 11 and vitality 18. Probably missing upgrades.

Vitality caps at 20 and attack power can go up to like 14 in a normal playthrough or something, might be more. But with the right tool you can max out attack power to 99... Or you just play several ng+ on the same character

So I’m short of couple of minibosses ha. Wish I knew which ones. The world is vast. I was aiming to naturally max out without the mask on ng.
BadMedium Aug 14, 2023 @ 9:49pm 
DoH took me the most tries of any From boss.
Mr. World Aug 15, 2023 @ 1:28am 
Thanks people, I’ve beaten him finally. It was a terrible experience and I didn’t feel accomplished or rewarded. There will be what I assume the last boss now but I’ve burned out. To hell with the people who designed and approved this DS reject into this rather good game.
Lunacom Aug 15, 2023 @ 1:48am 
its still a sekiro boss so keep playing it like sekrio. you should be right up in his balls and keeping pressure on him.
Apekatt Aug 15, 2023 @ 7:47am 
Originally posted by Valtiel:
Thanks people, I’ve beaten him finally. It was a terrible experience and I didn’t feel accomplished or rewarded. There will be what I assume the last boss now but I’ve burned out. To hell with the people who designed and approved this DS reject into this rather good game.

Well, since you've fought the hardest and worst boss, it will only go up from here! Well, duel apes ain't that much better but at least half of it is headless ape so that's something. Personally I beat demon of hatred by using a bloodborne cleric beast strat....STICK TO THAT BOOTY!!! I always tried to circle around him so I didn't face him directly. Actually worked pretty well I gotta say.
Mr. World Aug 15, 2023 @ 8:40am 
Originally posted by Lourdess Apekatt:
Originally posted by Valtiel:
Thanks people, I’ve beaten him finally. It was a terrible experience and I didn’t feel accomplished or rewarded. There will be what I assume the last boss now but I’ve burned out. To hell with the people who designed and approved this DS reject into this rather good game.

Well, since you've fought the hardest and worst boss, it will only go up from here! Well, duel apes ain't that much better but at least half of it is headless ape so that's something. Personally I beat demon of hatred by using a bloodborne cleric beast strat....STICK TO THAT BOOTY!!! I always tried to circle around him so I didn't face him directly. Actually worked pretty well I gotta say.

After I beat DoH, the last boss was like a vacation. I beat them with only 5 tries. Come at me with swords and spears. Hacking away at huge demon's hairy ballsack and chasing bulls like a lunatic is not for me.
the worst think about him is that you have to teleport there by going the opposite direction of where he really is. everything in the world is very logically connected, but this ruined it all.. feels like they skipped developing a couple of areas after the invasion to keep the release date, and never bothered fixing it. never gonna touch this game again because of this and gonna stick with dark souls 1 .
Almaz Aug 15, 2023 @ 3:42pm 
Originally posted by Self-reliant Battle Monk:
the worst think about him is that you have to teleport there by going the opposite direction of where he really is. everything in the world is very logically connected, but this ruined it all.. feels like they skipped developing a couple of areas after the invasion to keep the release date, and never bothered fixing it. never gonna touch this game again because of this and gonna stick with dark souls 1 .
lol never gonna touch sekiro again because of one illogical path to one optional boss, bravo
/^^\461|[ 834|| Aug 15, 2023 @ 5:17pm 
Demon of Hatred is a really stupid boss and it reminded me of why I started to hate Dark Souls so much but really enjoyed Sekiro. Leaving Demon of Hatred behind was my statement to say I'm not going to play Dark Souls. I bought Sekiro, I enjoy Sekiro, I have a clear flow of progression and happy with my save.

Honestly Demon of Hatred is just fan service to kuckolds of Dark Souls who like sitting on a boss for hours to find oh I just stand here in this box next to his leg and he can't hit me... yeah, that's not a challenge, it's a test of endurance.

But you can just beat him by circling his leg then using the umbrella when he does his aerial attack. I had him really close but honestly cannot be bothered so just went to beat the game instead.
Alexoferith Aug 15, 2023 @ 5:32pm 
yes, Daemon of Hatred is an optional boss as long as you are not going for the achievements. Defeating DoH will give you 2 of those precious lazurite crystals which you need to upgrade your prosthetic tools to the final level. To get the achievement for fully upgrading your prosthetic tools, you need 10. But each playthrough can only give 6!!! You cannot buy these crystals anywhere. You can only get them by killing Daemon of Hatred, the Shichimen Warrior in FountainHead district, and exchange carp scale for it from the vendor in a barrel at Harata Estate. Perhaps, the best time to face DoH is during your 1st playthrough. Once you get the lazurite crystals from killing it, you don't have to fight it anymore in your NG+ game. The reason I say this is that in NG+ or NG++ (and so on), all enemies will be stronger and tougher to be killed. Sekiro is also stronger but the fight will take longer. But then if you don't mind the longer fight, by all means fight it. Or you can always cheese it. It is surprising that the Dev. never nerfed out the cheese against DoH but nerfed most of the other cheesing method against other bosses. After defeating DoH 3 to 4 times, I just cheesed it. :)
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