A question on Save slots

[Thumper]

First off in my load game section in the menu I have 3 saves each with a different date. If I load any one of those take me back to the same place.

If I want to start new/fresh, will I keep all, one, or none of the 3 save I have. or will it add a 4th.

Last point, granted the learning curve is very steep to say the least. dying is the new norm. Do I even want to start new or should I just stay the course and keep replaying the same area.

[PlutonArioch]

You have a maximum of 10 save slots. Starting a new game adds another one, until you have 10, then it asks you to delete one before you can start a new game. You can also rename or move the save file, and create ten more slots in a fresh file, then you can switch the files if you want to load one from the other file. Your settings are kept in that file too though so you might have to redo them if you create a new file.

Starting fresh will not change anything about the difficulty, so it wont help you there. I would suggest you just keep playing where you are and try to learn from your deaths.

[livin']

Originally posted by PlutonArioch:

You have a maximum of 10 save slots. Starting a new game adds another one, until you have 10, then it asks you to delete one before you can start a new game. You can also rename or move the save file, and create ten more slots in a fresh file, then you can switch the files if you want to load one from the other file. Your settings are kept in that file too though so you might have to redo them if you create a new file.

Starting fresh will not change anything about the difficulty, so it wont help you there. I would suggest you just keep playing where you are and try to learn from your deaths.

if he's midway and missed some missable prayer-beads or optional bosses or something it might help a bit. Still probably not worth the effort to restart thou.

[Thumper]

Interesting both of you, thank you. No, I don't think I'm anywhere close to mid-way. Like I said dying has become the new norm for me. You would have thought I was blind and the cost is unforgiving. I'll stay working from the single save I have.

I think one of my saves will take me back to where the little boy gives me the sword. After reading a file on the net, seems I missed a few items I'd like to go back for.

this is one of the most respectful forums I've seen in some time

Thx again.

[PlutonArioch]

Dying is the norm for anyone new to the game. Don't worry about that. Just try to learn something from the way you died, and you will soon be able to move on without dying so much. Don't worry about the cost of dying either. You may be inconvenienced in the short term, but it does not matter at all in the long run.

Originally posted by livin':

if he's midway and missed some missable prayer-beads or optional bosses or something it might help a bit. Still probably not worth the effort to restart thou.

I don't think there are enough missables in the game to make a big difference either way. Sure, a completionist might freak out if he missed some, but your own skill has much more impact than any item or stat in game, and you can only improve on that with practice - in other words: by trying the part you struggle with until you get it.
You can always play it again to find everything you missed the first time.

Originally posted by Thumper:

I think one of my saves will take me back to where the little boy gives me the sword. After reading a file on the net, seems I missed a few items I'd like to go back for.

Do you mean in the tutorial? Or after you got back there? There is nothing important to pick up in the tutorial, only after coming back to the place there are a few useful things to pick up there.

[Thumper]

I can work my way thru this with the help of people like you guys, I've read some of the wiki file and that helps some what, there is alot the game does not tell you. The more I find the more I don't want to use or waste (by dying) I wasted the pellets I had there gone.

I still have the "I'm a tank" mindset and untill I break that it's gonna be a slow grind. I'm gonna go eat and come back after. I'll probably have far less questions by tomorrow.

thx for keeping up with me

[PlutonArioch]

Originally posted by Thumper:

The more I find the more I don't want to use or waste (by dying) I wasted the pellets I had there gone.

You can find and buy more pellets later. They can also drop as loot from defeated enemies.
But I know what you mean. It can be frustrating to use an item and then die, making it feel like the item was wasted. You could save all your consumable items for when you know better how to survive, but then again, once you get good enough at the game, you don't need to use any items, so I'd say use what you have, when you have it.
That also goes for other items. Look at (and try out) every item, so you know what it does and how it works, so you know better when to use it later. Don't be afraid to experiment, even if you waste an item, that's the best way to learn.
There is only one item that should "ideally" not be used from the inventory, but you can figure that out by reading the description. It does have a slightly positive effect when used from the inventory as well though, and you can get 15 in one playthrough... I'm not saying you should waste it, but I am saying you can even "waste" this rare item for experimentation, without losing out on its main effect in the long run.

Originally posted by Thumper:

I still have the "I'm a tank" mindset and untill I break that it's gonna be a slow grind.

Yeah that's not quite the right mindset, but not entirely wrong either. You can't take many hits, but practice deflecting (parrying), and you can just stand your ground and tank pretty much everything, by deflecting almost every attack.

[Thumper]

Thx, again. I'm about to go back and play a little more. I have another friend helping with the "as I go" progress covering quick answers.

The replys here cover the rest. I welcome your support.

[Alexoferith]

I am a little confused??? You said you have 3 saves and each was at a different date?
Ok, I would like to clarify the saved game mechanic in Sekiro. Whenever you START a new game, a PROFILE (that is the name used by the game, not me) is created. However, you cannot give it a name. In my case, I have 7 PROFILES, i.e. I had started 7 new games (including NG+) since I had installed the game. The only way to distinguish them is the date of creation, the location where the game was saved, the progress - in the form of vitality and attack power.
In your case, you have 3 saves. That means you have started a new game 3 times. You said each brought you back to the same location. That means that for each of these 3, you have not created a saved game after meeting Kuro.
Creating a saved game can be done in many ways. First, the obvious one, manually. You just press ESC (for PC as I am a PC gamer), Options, and then select Quit. You will know if the game is creating a saved game as there is a blue flame appearing at the top right corner area of your screen, usually next your XP progress bar.
Second, whenever you rest at an IDOL, a saved game file will be created.
Third, whenever you pick up an item or looting.
Fourth, whenever you buy or sell anything at any vendor.
Fifth, whenever you reach or discover a new IDOL and key location. The game is pretty linear. So, whenever you reach a certain point, a saved game file will be created.
Now remember this, when you start Sekiro, if you select LOAD and you choose, let say the first PROFILE, while you are playing in this profile, ALL saved game files will ONLY be saved to this PROFILE (which is very logical).
So, let say you are going to create a video of your game play. But you want to practise. You create a NEW game for this but for your practice, you load up your 2nd PROFILE where you try things out, etc.
So, if you think that you have missed out something because you have made a certain decision, yes, you won't be able to go back and try again apart from playing the game ALL OVER again. The saved game system in Sekiro does not allow you to do that.
However, you can manually backup the saved game files prior to facing a boss or mini-boss. There is usually an IDOL pretty close to a boss or mini-boss. So, this is the moment to manually backup your saved game files. So, if you die (twice), you can restore the saved game files and try again. This way you won't lose any XP, money or potions.
I understand that there are MODs for this purpose. But you really have to know which MOD to use or it can break your game seriously. No joke. You can google the manual backup method for PC and consoles. Or you can watch episode 29, I believe, of the 100% walkthrough series by FightinCowboy on Youtube. He is a PC gamer so his method will be for PC but he explained it rather clear. The principles are the same for consoles.
Hope these are useful to you. Have fun and good luck.

[Thumper]

I see what your saying, yes it's possible I restarted 3 times but my progress was / is very slow. When I say they put me back in the same place it's in the training area hub.

Whenever I stop / start playing thats where I quit from. What your saying is even if I restarted 3 times it's still the same profile I started with. Right? What if I deleted the other 2 and put my current game at a different location or idol. Then started new, would it keep my current game and put up a new save slot? You also mentioned a profile, I didn't know I had one. I don't remember creating one.

I'll wait for your reply.

[PlutonArioch]

Originally posted by Alexoferith:

Creating a saved game can be done in many ways.

Not really. The game saves to the loaded save slot (profile) every few seconds, and again when you quit the game. That's about it. No need to make it that complicated. Yes the game saves when you touch an idol, it also saved a few seconds before you did, and a few seconds before that. To put it simply (and not confuse people): The game constantly saves to the loaded save slot. To the point that if it should crash, you usually don't lose any progress, unless it crashed while saving.
The only way to create a new save state (profile), in another slot, is to start a new game from the main menu.
Those are all in the same file though. The game never creates a new save file, unless it does not find the file where it should be. That is why you can move or rename it, to have the game create a new file.
The only way to keep a save from before you do something that you might want to undo, is to make a copy of the actual save file before you do it (but you should quit to menu before making the copy).

Originally posted by Thumper:

Whenever I stop / start playing thats where I quit from. What your saying is even if I restarted 3 times it's still the same profile I started with. Right? What if I deleted the other 2 and put my current game at a different location or idol. Then started new, would it keep my current game and put up a new save slot? You also mentioned a profile, I didn't know I had one. I don't remember creating one.

He was saying that what you call "Save Slots" the game calls "Profiles". It does not matter what you call it though. It is still the same thing. It makes more sense to call it profiles in the other games from this developer (Demon's Souls, the Dark Souls Series, Bloodborne, Elden Ring), where you create a character and give it a name at the start of the game. That is you character profile, and you can see information like your characters face, name, and level, in the load menu. Those games all use the same game engine, and the same save system. That is why it is the same here, even though you do not create a character, and the description "profile" does not make sense.

You do not need to delete your other two save slots/profiles, unless you want to get rid of them. You can just start a new game in a new save slot if you want, at any time. As I said, you can have up to 10 save slots/profiles occupied in the same save file. The game will not touch your other save slots, unless you specifically delete or load them. Naturally you should load the save slot that you want to continue from. If you don't specifically want to load a different save slot/profile than you where playing on before, you don't need to use the loading menu either, you can just select "Continue" from the main menu, and the game automatically loads the last save you played.

If you are actually still in the tutorial, I am a bit confused as to why you would want to restart, since you can't do anything different up to that point, except deciding when to use those pellets, so go ahead and start fresh if you feel it could help you get through it. I had assumed you had progressed a bit further, when I suggested you should stick to that spot, sorry.

[Thumper]

I did remove the other 2 profiles and started new, not for any of the reason people think. all those other profiles were from my POV a mess I kept changes keys and bouncing around with no focus or direction. For me to fix that, I have to start new to fix all I could not get right. I do this with all games I play. Even if I know them well, I still play so deep in to a point it becomes clear. I drop that profile and start new. Now I understand where I'm going and what I have to do. In other words I have purpose. The game I started today went very well, I advanced to the point I stalled in a quater of the time.

In short my fingers and brain did not play well together, now the fingers are coming around and listening to the brain. thats what happens with all games for me. Give me a little time and I'll answering question and helping others just like you guys.

[EDIT] To those who helped me sort thru this Thank you again. After restarting my game it became managaible. What I struggled to get to last time I sailed thru it with little effort thats not to say I didn't die (but not as much). Maybe they should rename this 1000 ways to die. I bet that be a seller, huh. The training with the undead guy is much easier then in the field, they hit harder. I found alot of new items I need to address. But thats required reading.

Thank You Gentleman, You've earned my Respect.