i can not pass the Great Shinobi Owl.. Help needed

[yakyakos]

Hi all,

as the title said, i am blocked against that Great Shinobi Owl . So far, even if sometimes i needed like 10-20 tries on some boss, it was doable. But that one man... I have checked toons of video trying to figure out what is the best way to fight him. But none is working. i think i am at 100+ try and so far i want TWICE to phase 2.

I have 6 necklace, and i think i win against 6 boss. 9 heal possible. My main problem is that each hit is minimum 1/3 of my lofe or sometimes 1/2 of my life. And this guy get a crazy reach box. i can read his move. And can block many hits. But my problem is hurting him. the only pattern when i can 100% hit him is 2 shuriken followed by a big jump. this one allow me one dodge and 2 hit. but sometimes he never do it.... i have seen video where peopel dodge his attack. but sometimes it is 1, 2, 3 , 4 attack and i don t see any patern there...

Well anyway any advice will be appreciated.

thank you

[𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒]

Here my advice learn how to parry stop trying Dodge he's attacks cuz you not playing dark souls here I thought you already know that

[MBouland]

Chipping bosses HP by baiting attacks and then hitting them and running away is a bad idea in Sekiro. This will only make the fights last longer than intended and will make the fights a sluggish endurance test rather than an enjoyable short clash of swords between you and the boss.

The best approach to every human boss fight in this game is:
1- Learn the combos & attacks of the boss, and their timings.
Learning which of the boss combos can be interrupted by your regular attacks will help a little. But deflecting & countering the attacks/combos and then attacking after the end of the combo does the job better than running away from them.
2- Do the "dance".
In Sekiro, you and the boss take turns in attacking and deflecting. In general you can do 1-3 hits then the boss deflect your attack (you hear a nice clang and see a lot of sparks) then it's his turn to attack and yours to deflect and counter.
3- Always remain close to the boss and keep his posture under pressure by either attacking or deflecting, never remain idle
In Sekiro, the bosses are the ones that really want Sekiro to remain away from them and recover posture. Sekiro, on the other hand, can keep deflecting (not blocking) & when his posture bar gets broken he is rarely punished (with a properly timed roll from the stun).
4- Use the Shurikens to interrupt Owl from recovering posture in phase 2 & the ability [Nightjar Slash] will help Sekiro reach the boss fast once Owl jumps away from you.

TLDR;
Learn the boss attacks and combos. Deflect & counter. Keep the boss under constant pressure.

[LightLance]

Originally posted by yakyakos:

but sometimes it is 1, 2, 3 , 4 attack and i don t see any patern there...

If you cannot read the attack patterns, then you are not fighting him aggressively enough and give him more choice when changing patterns. In the first phase nothing should bother you at all except the camera. The second stage is more difficult, since you are limited in pressure by poisonous spots and more frequent use of smoke. Try to go through the first phase without using heal gourds. Use a raven feather while his attacking after his smoke trick. May be my video help you.
https://youtu.be/eaX8fAe25uk

[yakyakos]

thanks for the tips, will make some more try later today. it is true i usually keep distance between him and me . will try to beat him being closer.

[𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒]

Originally posted by yakyakos:

thanks for the tips, will make some more try later today. it is true i usually keep distance between him and me . will try to beat him being closer.

In second phase he can restore he's posture if you won't hit him in time to prevent him from doing that you can do one of three things.
1 hit him with shuriken when he trying do this.

2 run to him and hit him with sword

3 get hit by he's anti healing bomb it will make him more aggressive and he will go full rampage mode .

[yakyakos]

btw i just make some more try. is there a way to recover posture a bit except from running away ? Because after 3 4 hits my posture is down (i mean i can not try to deflect my guy just is as "stun" for one or 2 sec) and he can attack me (that is always when he make me dommage anyway).

[yakyakos]

and that is funny he just for the first time used one attack he never did so far : he used fircrackers and instant killed. first time in 117 try i see this one lol :)

[LightLance]

Originally posted by yakyakos:

is there a way to recover posture a bit except from running away ?

1. Ichimonji - posture fast regen, long range atack, interrup, high damage, you still preassure. But you shoud know when use it.
2. Hold block. Long, passive.

[MBouland]

Originally posted by yakyakos:

btw i just make some more try. is there a way to recover posture a bit except from running away ? Because after 3 4 hits my posture is down (i mean i can not try to deflect my guy just is as "stun" for one or 2 sec) and he can attack me (that is always when he make me dommage anyway).

You can try to hold the block button to recover your posture but this make the boss gain his posture back. The best way to manage posture is to learn how to deflect by learning the boss attack timings (since your posture will never break even when full with proper deflects).

As for the firecracker attack. When the Owl uses a shoulder attack followed by a sword slash (the firecracker combo animation) then all you have to do is deflect both initial attacks then hold the attack button to do a thrust attack. Sekiro will charge away from the crackers and attack the distracted Owl.

[Nephew Sam]

when i fight him, i usually play very defensive and only deflect his attacks and use the openings like when he throws the "undead hunter charm" bomb thing and punish them using whirlwind or mortal draw (1 swing).
dodging really doesnt work here, so just deflect and punish openings, thats it, you can deflect pretty much every one of his attacks with enough practice.

[yakyakos]

hi by deflect you mean blocking but at the perfect time right (so not holding the block button, push it at the exact time of te attack) ? Sorry not english speaking person here just want to be sure a cat is a cat :).

[MBouland]

Originally posted by yakyakos:

hi by deflect you mean blocking but at the perfect time right (so not holding the block button, push it at the exact time of te attack) ? Sorry not english speaking person here just want to be sure a cat is a cat :).

Yes, "Deflect" is when done at the exact time. "Block" is when you hold it down or pressed slightly at the wrong time (pressed too early or constant tapping)

[yakyakos]

Not sure i will not give up. Tried like 50 times more tonight. 2h30 doing only going from the idol to him. i went once to phase 2. ONCE.

I checked again some video. But the owl i am facing has nothing to do with the pathetic owl i see in the videos lol. Mine kills me in 2 hit so if i miss one hit (only one) he follow by a second one unstoppable and or kill me or get me to 10% life.

The one i am fighting use firecrackers like hell and this stuff insta kill.

The one i am fighting even when at 20% life, if i deflect like 6-7 times, his posture don't go up at all (or nealry). Even double ichimonji doesn't move his posture by more then 5% (and he is at 30% life).

Maybe the deflect must at 100% of the time be on time to make his posture go high.

Last thing, even if i try to deflect after 3, 4 successfull deflect (or block) my posture is at max and the next deflect make me stun for a few seconds.

During that time he usually insta kill me using an attack where he put me on the ground, block me with his body and put his sword in my heart.

I will make some video tomorrow. it is very irritating as i love that kind of game. i am not very good at it, i know, i am an old guy (nearly 50 years ) but still love the challenge and so far finished all dark soul and didn't find any boss very hard in sekiro except that one.

thanks for your patience guys

[MBouland]

Originally posted by yakyakos:

If i deflect like 6-7 times, his posture don't go up at all (or nealry). Even double ichimonji doesn't move his posture by more then 5% (and he is at 30% life).

Maybe the deflect must at 100% of the time be on time to make his posture go high.

Last thing, even if i try to deflect after 3, 4 successfull deflect (or block) my posture is at max and the next deflect make me stun for a few seconds.

i am an old guy (nearly 50 years ) but still love the challenge and so far finished all dark soul and didn't find any boss very hard in sekiro except that one.

In general, Owl deals a lot of HP & posture damage when compared to other bosses in Sekiro. You can only slightly minimize Owl damage by acquiring more prayer beads. You can have up to 8 prayer necklaces just before Owl Fight. Check a youtube video of where to find the missing beads/mini-bosses. At the end, you have to live with the fact that your posture bar will be full most of the time when fighting Owl as a new player.

A lot of new players make a mistake by ringing the Demon Bell and make the game harder on themselves without realizing it. If there's a smokey red icon below Sekiro HP bar It means you are playing on a harder mode (it can be removed from the consumables menu by using it)

I'm 38 years old. I can beat Sekiro on the hardest difficulty (NG+7/Demon Bell/No Kuro's Charm). I think you're capable of beating the game on the default difficulty. It just takes a lot of practice, patience, and the willing to learn from mistakes.

[yakyakos]

Still not able, 31 try more (i take count of them). went three times to phase 2. will try again today. the thing that really kills me is this pattern : 4 or 5 attack in a row that i deflect but my posture go to the max or nearly and i am like stunned for one big seconds. during that second he push me on the ground and put his sword in my chest. this attack make +- 80 % fo your life bar. so i am not full of full it kills me. i finish 90% of the fight with 5 or 6 heal possible. will continue to harras him maybe at the end he will be tired of killing me and let me go trough