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RockClaw 17 ENE 2021 a las 14:45
Max. Prayer Necklaces/Attack Power Remnants before Owl fight (Ashina Castle)?
Does anybody know?
I am having some trouble. I have 7 prayer necklaces and 7 remnants. Just wondering if I should try to power up and come back for an easier time.
Última edición por RockClaw; 17 ENE 2021 a las 14:52
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EF_Neo1st 17 ENE 2021 a las 15:38 
Publicado originalmente por RockClaw:
Does anybody know?
I am having some trouble. I have 7 prayer necklaces and 7 remnants. Just wondering if I should try to power up and come back for an easier time.
If you do everything (bosses and mini-bosses also whole exploration of all areas) before Owl you will have as much as possible.
Thest the fight against Owl and see if you need something else (also see if there is something else available, sorry but I dont really remember).
RockClaw 17 ENE 2021 a las 17:36 
Publicado originalmente por EF_Neo1st:
Publicado originalmente por RockClaw:
Does anybody know?
I am having some trouble. I have 7 prayer necklaces and 7 remnants. Just wondering if I should try to power up and come back for an easier time.
If you do everything (bosses and mini-bosses also whole exploration of all areas) before Owl you will have as much as possible.
Thest the fight against Owl and see if you need something else (also see if there is something else available, sorry but I dont really remember).

Haha, will do. I think I have all the remnant possible so far. But can still get 1, maybe 2, more prayer necklaces. Tough game... amazing though.
Shizofrend 17 ENE 2021 a las 18:28 
well u can tehcnically get all the stuff done and fight him last which would come up to 10 prayer beads necklaces and somehwere around 14 or 15 attack power i think.
EF_Neo1st 17 ENE 2021 a las 18:31 
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well u can tehcnically get all the stuff done and fight him last which would come up to 10 prayer beads necklaces and somehwere around 14 or 15 attack power i think.
I think 14 or 15 Attack would be after Owl (I actually finished my first playthrough with Attack 12 and I killed Isshin Sword Saint and Demon of Hatred too, but I had not done Hirata 2 because when I decided to look if I missed something at wiki and at the forum I had already killed the dragon).
Shizofrend 17 ENE 2021 a las 19:04 
Publicado originalmente por EF_Neo1st:
Publicado originalmente por Lost Soul in a fish bowl:
well u can tehcnically get all the stuff done and fight him last which would come up to 10 prayer beads necklaces and somehwere around 14 or 15 attack power i think.
I think 14 or 15 Attack would be after Owl (I actually finished my first playthrough with Attack 12 and I killed Isshin Sword Saint and Demon of Hatred too, but I had not done Hirata 2 because when I decided to look if I missed something at wiki and at the forum I had already killed the dragon).
Yeah I think its 14 with all bosses or so unless my memory is failing me so I guess u can go kick his arse with 13 attack and 10/max attributes. Hes a good challenge first time around so it oughta come in handy.
EF_Neo1st 17 ENE 2021 a las 19:09 
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I think 14 or 15 Attack would be after Owl (I actually finished my first playthrough with Attack 12 and I killed Isshin Sword Saint and Demon of Hatred too, but I had not done Hirata 2 because when I decided to look if I missed something at wiki and at the forum I had already killed the dragon).
Yeah I think its 14 with all bosses or so unless my memory is failing me so I guess u can go kick his arse with 13 attack and 10/max attributes. Hes a good challenge first time around so it oughta come in handy.
Yes, but before Owl at the top of the castle I dont remember how much Attack someone can have.
RockClaw 18 ENE 2021 a las 0:06 
GOT THAT SOB!
Shizofrend 18 ENE 2021 a las 6:14 
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GOT THAT SOB!

Congrats. Now fight his inner version charmless :-)
EF_Neo1st 18 ENE 2021 a las 6:25 
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Publicado originalmente por RockClaw:
GOT THAT SOB!

Congrats. Now fight his inner version charmless :-)
Yeah, like . . .
Rookie driver: YAY!! I could contol my gokart without spinning!
Professional driver: Nice, now take a Formula car to drive at Monaco at heavy rain during a race and finish it at least in at least 2nd with a worst car and among other professional drivers and world champion like Senna did.

Or . . .
Karate Student: YAY! I got my black belt.
Karate professor: Nice, now go defeat Chuck Norris.

Inner Owl is harder than any other boss in the game by a mile.
Shizofrend 18 ENE 2021 a las 6:52 
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Congrats. Now fight his inner version charmless :-)
Yeah, like . . .
Rookie driver: YAY!! I could contol my gokart without spinning!
Professional driver: Nice, now take a Formula car to drive at Monaco at heavy rain during a race and finish it at least in at least 2nd with a worst car and among other professional drivers and world champion like Senna did.

Or . . .
Karate Student: YAY! I got my black belt.
Karate professor: Nice, now go defeat Chuck Norris.

Inner Owl is harder than any other boss in the game by a mile.

inner isshin comes in close second and demon of hatred isn't far behind whilst inner genichiro is also pretty dangerous but owl can be even easier then isshin to some. it depends how u play and how many times you defeated isshin or owl. I hear inner owl isn't too bad if you are decent at defeating him normally. Have yet to face him tho since I got shura gauntlet just yesterday. p.s. can u cheese demon of hatred in the gauntlet??
EF_Neo1st 18 ENE 2021 a las 7:04 
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Yeah, like . . .
Rookie driver: YAY!! I could contol my gokart without spinning!
Professional driver: Nice, now take a Formula car to drive at Monaco at heavy rain during a race and finish it at least in at least 2nd with a worst car and among other professional drivers and world champion like Senna did.

Or . . .
Karate Student: YAY! I got my black belt.
Karate professor: Nice, now go defeat Chuck Norris.

Inner Owl is harder than any other boss in the game by a mile.

inner isshin comes in close second and demon of hatred isn't far behind whilst inner genichiro is also pretty dangerous but owl can be even easier then isshin to some. it depends how u play and how many times you defeated isshin or owl. I hear inner owl isn't too bad if you are decent at defeating him normally. Have yet to face him tho since I got shura gauntlet just yesterday. p.s. can u cheese demon of hatred in the gauntlet??
From my first run blind:
- Demon of Hatred - 3 tries with dodge and attack
- Isshin Sword Saint - 2 tries (1st try with deflect, 2nd try with dash and attack and was a 5min fight for all 4 stages)
- Owl - some 5 or 6 tries (mostly because I was not with patience and was losing my temper on how long the fight was being because Owl is a pro at countering and running away also have a huge HP for how much Attack I can have at that moment, that is something around +7 Attack).
- Inner Owl (on new NG because I could not do at my first NG but already with some 24 Attack) - some 9 tries or so (again, with nearly +50% damage from what I would have if I had finished the game).

Demon of Hatred to me is like a Demon Prince from Dark Souls 3 but with 3x Miir health.
Isshin is just . . . the culmination of everything but at that point I was being able to beat everything without being touched or being attacked only once in a while so he was not a problem.
Owl at the top of the castle I was fighting tilted because on my first try he was some 50% hp on his second stage and I died, then I wanted to kill Owl fast but . . . could not do it fast and was tilting more and more at each attempt because of my lack of patience.

Inner Owl, I gone with patience, with much more Attack than what I should for a NG and it still took me some 9 tries (if I dont remember it wrong, there is a good time I did it, like nearly 1 year).
Still, if Owl at the top of the castle was a good fight like that I would not be bored and losing my patience over time (Owl at the top of the castle, to me, is just a push over that do 3 moves over and over on 1st stage and on 2nd stage gain 1 or 2 moves and that is it, boring and never liked that fight).
Shizofrend 18 ENE 2021 a las 7:13 
Publicado originalmente por EF_Neo1st:
Publicado originalmente por Lost Soul in a fish bowl:

inner isshin comes in close second and demon of hatred isn't far behind whilst inner genichiro is also pretty dangerous but owl can be even easier then isshin to some. it depends how u play and how many times you defeated isshin or owl. I hear inner owl isn't too bad if you are decent at defeating him normally. Have yet to face him tho since I got shura gauntlet just yesterday. p.s. can u cheese demon of hatred in the gauntlet??
From my first run blind:
- Demon of Hatred - 3 tries with dodge and attack
- Isshin Sword Saint - 2 tries (1st try with deflect, 2nd try with dash and attack and was a 5min fight for all 4 stages)
- Owl - some 5 or 6 tries (mostly because I was not with patience and was losing my temper on how long the fight was being because Owl is a pro at countering and running away also have a huge HP for how much Attack I can have at that moment, that is something around +7 Attack).
- Inner Owl (on new NG because I could not do at my first NG but already with some 24 Attack) - some 9 tries or so (again, with nearly +50% damage from what I would have if I had finished the game).

Demon of Hatred to me is like a Demon Prince from Dark Souls 3 but with 3x Miir health.
Isshin is just . . . the culmination of everything but at that point I was being able to beat everything without being touched or being attacked only once in a while so he was not a problem.
Owl at the top of the castle I was fighting tilted because on my first try he was some 50% hp on his second stage and I died, then I wanted to kill Owl fast but . . . could not do it fast and was tilting more and more at each attempt because of my lack of patience.

Inner Owl, I gone with patience, with much more Attack than what I should for a NG and it still took me some 9 tries (if I dont remember it wrong, there is a good time I did it, like nearly 1 year).
Still, if Owl at the top of the castle was a good fight like that I would not be bored and losing my patience over time (Owl at the top of the castle, to me, is just a push over that do 3 moves over and over on 1st stage and on 2nd stage gain 1 or 2 moves and that is it, boring and never liked that fight).

I feel ya, owl likes to stay back and recover his posture a lot. he has this weakness tho where he think your sword slash wouldnt reahc him so he doesnt block nor deflect but goes for attakc himself since his sword is a bit longer then yours but its oto late cuz u r alrdy swinging and he just gets staggered and takes hp dmg. this neat little trick helped me get his hp to 50% a minute or two quicker.
EF_Neo1st 18 ENE 2021 a las 8:00 
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I feel ya, owl likes to stay back and recover his posture a lot. he has this weakness tho where he think your sword slash wouldnt reahc him so he doesnt block nor deflect but goes for attakc himself since his sword is a bit longer then yours but its oto late cuz u r alrdy swinging and he just gets staggered and takes hp dmg. this neat little trick helped me get his hp to 50% a minute or two quicker.
I dont even really go for Posture at Owl, I go for HP damage . . . still, the "resourcefullness" of Owl to counter the hits then leap away . . . it along with the insane amount of HP Owl have makes the fight much longer than necessary to be enjoyable.
Had Owl half that HP or dont use his leap backward so much he would be nearly enjoyable and less of a push over (but yes, if I was going for Posture alone I dont think I would have made it past stage 1 without using any prostetic like shuriken)
lerntuspel 18 ENE 2021 a las 9:12 
No, you are as strong as you get for the point you are at the game. Unless you want to get some more shinobi/combat arts
lerntuspel 18 ENE 2021 a las 9:15 
Actually, you might be able to get one more prayer necklace because the total is 10 and now you can dive around to find stuff. I remember some beads were hiding in the water in some places
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