㊙️ Sekiro is Hard and it's extremely harder without controller!

[LOVE]

I've just Uninstalled the game because really I don't want to break my keyboard or other stuff 😒

the game is extremely hard, it's all about timing of deflecting the enemy's attacks!

And bosses' attacks are insanely overpowered! Before I buy any game, I take my time and I read about it, I know it's difficult game, just like Dark Souls series, while I'm using keyboard and mouse, it's a bit unstable for me to fully control over the character besides the camera view is changing frequently when I face the wall, but do I have to use controller to master this game? btw I like this game so much it's reminds me one of old Japanese war game, but this one is super hard!

give me tips/hints to make me enjoy this game please 😌😊🙏

[737]

I thought it was way easier than the Dark Souls series, but I played with controler! People have beaten it with mouse and keyboard though!

[LOVE]

Originally posted by 737:

I thought it was way easier than the Dark Souls series, but I played with controler! People have beaten it with mouse and keyboard though!

Yeah, I know there are some folks has beaten it with mouse and keyboard but how can I master skills overall? Especially bosses with undeflectable attacks :(

[Shizofrend]

:laughs in keyboard and mouse: not necessarily. I play it, dark souls, rocket league, hades etc... on keyboard and mouse easier then on controller. except maybe if I really gave rocket league on controller a go. And yeah sure it's hard. Play it for 250 hours and it'll only be hard without kuro's charm then. GitGud

[+Tumbz]

I'm playing with Keyboard + mouse because the joystick feels too slow to move the camera (and i'm in the final stages of the game!). Nothing is too hard tbh, the game just forces you to actually learn most bosses patterns, so yea. The very first few bosses / minibosses were a challenge though, as I was just learning everything.

But yeah, surely it's hard, but not impossible and nothing near unbeatable

[Hitori]

i used to think the game was hard but figured out the sounds of the hit means block on the loud ding then the game became pretty easy, practice it on the butterfly boss

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Lُove:

I've just Uninstalled the game because really I don't want to break my keyboard or other stuff 😒

the game is extremely hard, it's all about timing of deflecting the enemy's attacks!

And bosses' attacks are insanely overpowered! Before I buy any game, I take my time and I read about it, I know it's difficult game, just like Dark Souls series, while I'm using keyboard and mouse, it's a bit unstable for me to fully control over the character besides the camera view is changing frequently when I face the wall, but do I have to use controller to master this game? btw I like this game so much it's reminds me one of old Japanese war game, but this one is super hard!

give me tips/hints to make me enjoy this game please 😌😊🙏

I know it will sound weird but . . . Sekiro is not only aboud deflect (it is just meant to be the easier way but if you are having trouble with it . . . try something else).

The tip is . . . GIT GUD with your mindset and stop trying to win, try to learn and improve with the basics (so you will git gud at the game) and you will not need to try to win, the victory will eventually come.

If you can not stand the punishment, your mindset need to git gud before you start thinking about git gud at the game.

If you can not endure the punishment for your mistakes while you try to master something, then the game will only become harder and harder.
Example of the kind of commitment you must have to improve?
This kind of commitment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOv1usPgLvg
To die over and over even to the most idiotic things untill you nail it consistently enough to get the job done.
With more practice, it only becomes easier and you gain even more consistency.

40min to get the job done there . . . still, if you want to talk about commitment, Sekiro is much less demanding than many games in terms of commitment for improvement and the skill ceiling for "perfection" is high, yes, but if you want to just get through the game, all you need is to chill, go with a good mindset and with some time, paying attention to enemies weapons, stances and what you tested against these enemies, you will master the enemies and the stances to a point where even new enemies and bosses you find on your way will not be so hard (because enemies and bosses using the same weapons will use the same stances for the same purposes).

If you want to practice your reaction timing with keyboard, I suggest MUSYNX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgVtcPPDqdQ
Nothing at Sekiro is as precision demanding or close to be as hard as this (and it is just a below average music there with just 4 keys, there are much harder musics and with 6 keys).

I would say forget your Bayonetta experience, Sekiro is not a hack&slash where you can go head-on against the enemy and spam buttons to victory (be it dodge and attack or deflect or whatever you want to use) so paying attention to enemy weapon, distance from you and stance with the weapn will give you the clues you need to know how and when you will react with better chance of success (or knowing it will be a success).

I would say fighting games can also be a close match to the skills ceiling at Sekiro where it is sort of demanding to learn enough but it only gets harder from there on (fortunatelly, Sekiro is single player only and dont demand that you learn enough to deal against players) but because of "pay attention to enemies distance form you and enemy stance to knowhow you will react to it" it can become a rhythm game like MUSYNX.

Still, if you decide to play with dash through attacks (or around enemies) and attack, you still need to learn the stances to know what you can dash through and what you can not (basically, what your skills are able to let you dash through, Sekiro have iframes but it is ridiculously hard to nail consistently) and you can slash enemies to death instead of deflecting.
You can also dash away and do the slow strategy of 1 hit for every enemy/boss action after you dodge it once, still at Sekiro bosses have insane HP and if you dont hit these constantly, a fight of 5min (like the final boss if you keep up the pressure and dont stop attacking and deflecting him) can very much turn into a 30min, 45min fight that still if you do 1 mistake you can be combo-killed.
I dont recommend you to dash away at Sekiro, no matter the situation, enemies and mostly bosses usually have ways to deal with you at long distance or to make you regret waiting for them to charge at you if you are not confident with your reactions.

[EF_Neo1st]

TL:DR
Hesitation is defeat
Stay at melee range to the enemy, dont ever get away from the enemy and keep up the pressure with whatever you can, be it deflect/jump/mikiri/lightning-reversal/attack, but dont stop, you are the boss at the game and the enemies are the less skilled and less prepared for the fight, so bring hell to the enemies and dont let them get away from you.
Sekiro is the medieval version of the Doomguy:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESRsQ6nXUAIppRf?format=jpg

[Darth_Angeal]

Originally posted by 737:

I thought it was way easier than the Dark Souls series,

If you´ve beaten one of the games (sekiro, bloodborne, DS1/2/3, whatever), none of the following ones will be as hard as the first one was.
And such games aren´t so hard as poeple claim anyway. It´s just about remembering enemy skill-combos and finding that one way (dodge, parry, deflect, ...) to counter them. In kind of sekiro you can cheese any boss with the good old "distance and wait for X" strategy anyway, but that´s super boring.

Playing with controller or keyboard shouldn´t make a difference. It´s still up to the player and his preference. I know a bunch of ppl who don´t even know how to hold a controller.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Darth_Angeal:

Originally posted by 737:

I thought it was way easier than the Dark Souls series,

If you´ve beaten one of the games (sekiro, bloodborne, DS1/2/3, whatever), none of the following ones will be as hard as the first one was.
And such games aren´t so hard as poeple claim anyway. It´s just about remembering enemy skill-combos and finding that one way (dodge, parry, deflect, ...) to counter them. In kind of sekiro you can cheese any boss with the good old "distance and wait for X" strategy anyway, but that´s super boring.

Playing with controller or keyboard shouldn´t make a difference. It´s still up to the player and his preference. I know a bunch of ppl who don´t even know how to hold a controller.

It just is harder than the most common games that aim for the more casual players like Devil May Cry, Bayonetta and such that you can just spam dodge/jump/attack all at once while moving forward pray for the best and it work 90% of the time even on the hardest difficulties (then if you compare the hardest difficulty of these games to playing Dark Souls or Sekiro "normally", meaning without NPC and player help, then yes, the souls-like games can be considered as super hard).

Dark Souls just became the meme for "hard game" because most games at the time (since the early 2000s) were aimed to the most casual players giving a lot of help and perks to ake the player feel super or supreme against the enemies while being story driven.

[Xaphnir]

Originally posted by Lُove:

Especially bosses with undeflectable attacks :(

You paid attention to the tutorial that taught you about jumping sweep attacks, right? Other than those, there aren't many attacks that cannot be deflected, and for those attacks you can still dodge.

Also, this game is built rather well for keyboard and mouse. If you're having issues while using that, a controller isn't going to help you at all.

[Garou]

I always try to play any soulslike with a keyboard first and only switch to controller if there's no other way. Mouse is just so much better at camera control. Besides camera, what matters is adapting to the rules of the game not what inputs you're using.

[Cpt.P1mp]

i would guess most people play with a m+k since its on steam...i did. I cant play with a controller as good as m+kb, i find M+k a lot easyer for me even tho i am not exactly a controller noob since i play a lot of ps4 and 5.

Also if you played the other souls games, should be easy to adapt then. Unless you cheesed your way by overleveling, you cant overlevel here.

All i can say is, its like a dance, not to sound cheesy, most fights have a rhytm.
You can't cancel attacks halfway so well like in souls games, so dont spam attack, just hit attack as many times as needed by looking at your animation and the enemys.
If you see you got room for another attack, press it before the previous one finishes, if you are caught mid-attack and wanna deflect you might end up not being able to.

Its a mix of being agressive and defensive, you cant just parry and deflect even do you will be doing a lot of that, when you parry and they get a very small animation stun you need to also attack, often you can just get 1 hit in or 2.

Practice i guess.

[Spectacular_Insanity]

I prefer Souls games with a controller/gamepad, personally. I've played all of them like that so it comes naturally to me, whereas M+K does not. It depends on the genre of game I'm playing. 3rd person action games I play with controller, first person shooters I use M+K.

But more importantly than what you're using, you have to practice. Yeah, you're going to die, but that's a Souls game for you.

[Kajiya]

Just use firecracker it makes every fight easier.

[Regufyz]

i played it to all Achievements with keyboard in 70h. Was easier than the first two Souls Games. But GOD ♥♥♥♥ THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ APE and Snakeeye