jozu the drunkard cheese needed

[name]

how do i cheese this guy? i. can. NOT. deflect this guy for the LIFE OF ME. his health pool is MASSIVE. i'm forced to SLOG through a whole group of enemies every single attempt. he's like malenia on steroids and i have NEVER struggled this much with anything in a game before. THIS IS THE WORST BOSS EVER.

edit: can someone lock this thread please thanks

[name]

oh gee what do you know another 20 attempts gone on this random purple guy, gee real fair what a great game

[Rg]

Messaggio originale di name:

i just gave up on the drunk guy...scuffed boss design...now i'm stuck on this purple guy and i've just so nearly had it with this game, every 5 minutes there is some absurdly powerful enemy that the game expects you to spend hours mastering their awkward moveset...wtf kind of game is this? none of this bs was in any of fromsoft's other games

Bro thats literally how From design their games, DS just have much more cheeses on every aspect.

As for the Drunkards, you can run around them waiting for drink or strong attack and give them couple hits on the back.
Also, fire vent is pretty strong against them.
Also, Hirata is not the easiest part of the game, I'd say play main location until the castle at least if you struggle there.

[Tungsten.]

Come on, bro. There's always some weird stuff in the game, but the Drunkard really isn't it.

My personal strategy in my own challenge run was to space him out. I snuck around the left side, stealth-killed the shield guy, ran across the field to kill the bowman, before he realized what was up and then spent a few minutes trying to kill the other guys first before I went toe to toe with Jozu.

Jozu hits hard, and has long combo strings that make it unsure about when they end. He does however have attacks that are more easy to distinguish, such as his grab attack, his overhead/double overhead swing and free punishment opportunities, such as his drinking and his poison buff or breath, as long as you remember to get out of the way. You can easily keep an appropiate distance away from him so that when he does an attack, you can move out of the way and then back in to chip away at his health. As long as you keep it cool and only move in when you need to, you can do it. Keep a clear head and remember to bring your friend into the mix as well to wail on Juzo together. I'm sure you can do it.

[name]

Messaggio originale di Rg:

Messaggio originale di name:

i just gave up on the drunk guy...scuffed boss design...now i'm stuck on this purple guy and i've just so nearly had it with this game, every 5 minutes there is some absurdly powerful enemy that the game expects you to spend hours mastering their awkward moveset...wtf kind of game is this? none of this bs was in any of fromsoft's other games

Bro thats literally how From design their games, DS just have much more cheeses on every aspect.

As for the Drunkards, you can run around them waiting for drink or strong attack and give them couple hits on the back.
Also, fire vent is pretty strong against them.
Also, Hirata is not the easiest part of the game, I'd say play main location until the castle at least if you struggle there.

nothing is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ working i just struggle and struggle and struggle at every single aspect...i have NEVER hated a game as vehemently as i do this one...god it is so absolutely rage inducing i just can't anymore i'm so done with this trash game

[name]

Messaggio originale di Alexoferith:

First of all, you can stealth kill ALL the minions. You have to watch the minions. From the idol, you rush and kill the first minion (archer). Then quickly move forward and hide behind the rock on the left right next to the corner of a boundary wall, with flame close by. Don't worry, the flame will not touch you.
Now watch the two (one archer and one axe dude) slowly marching towards your direction. They will turn around once reaching the level of the rock you are hiding behind. When they turn around continuing their march, the archer will always be on your left and the axe dude on the right. Get out from behind the rock and execute a deathblow on the axe dude when you get close enough and the red dot starts to show. Then turn away quickly and kill the archer.
Now, the minions ahead will be alerted. Run back towards the direction where you have killed the 1st archer. Continue back round the corner and stand there. This is to check out if any of the alerted minions is coming down towards your direction. Usually, one will turn back and the other one will come all the way down towards you. You shouldn't have any problem to get rid of this dude. Even if both of them coming down towards you, you should have no problem dealing with them.
Now, if the guy with a torch is still alerted (yellow triangle), run and hide behind the 2nd rock (i.e. beyond the one you have hidden before). Wait for him to return to normal state. Then move up to hide behind the stone or if you can, run up and deal a deathblow. Then if the other minions are not alerted, just rush up and get rid of them.
There are 2 more minions inside the building on the right when you rush up to deal with the guy with the torch. Get inside the house and go to the right corner. There is a low level minion hiding behind the paper wall. Get rid of him first. By this time, the 2nd guy, an axe dude, will be red alerted. You can choose to fight him inside the house or better still, fight him outside the house so you have more room the move about. Get rid of him.
Next, get into the water and go left. I personally never go down the middle.
Crouch down as soon as you are leaving the stone structure in the middle as those enemies will see you. Move in stealth forward and jump up and get into the house. crouch all the time. The axe dude in front of you looking towards the right will never spot you. The aim is to get close to him and execute a deathblow as soon as the red dot show up. But as you get close, even crouching down, the dude outside will start to scream. Don't worry. NO ONE will react to his screaming. Just move up to kill him.
Once you are done with him, crouch and move forward along the corridor, then turn right. Crouching down all the time. NO ONE will see you. The next target is the guy with shield. Move close and take him out with a deathblow. Now, everyone will be red alerted. Your next target will be the archer far ahead at a diagonal direction. As soon as you killed the guy with shield, sprint forward towards the archer. Hopefully, you have attained the combat art where you can follow the shuriken you throw with a slash. This is exactly the way to deal with that archer before he can even shoot you with an arrow. Meanwhile, all the guys would be shouting and "begin" to rush towards you. After you kill this archer, run and avoid any enemies close to you BUT NEVER run towards the water ahead of you. Instead run towards the house on the right. Instead of getting into the house, sprint around it and crouch as soon as you reach the corner. There is a gap there for you to run down there. Crouch as soon as you can. When you get down there to the end corner, the alerted drunkard should be back to normal state. Some of the minions will remain in yellow alert state. Just crouch behind the rock and wait fo all of them to return to normal state.

By now, you should have 4 minions and the Drundard left. By now, you will notice that the Drunkard has moved and stand in the middle of the courtyard facing the water. The next aim is to take out the dude standing by the middle of the entrance to the house (which you cannot enter now until you have dealt with the Drundard) and then the axe dude to his left. So, come out from the rock and then approach the opening in the walking way. You need to jump twice to get back onto the walkway. Always crouch. Follow the walkway and then turn right. Don't walk down the steps which will need to the courtyard as the two guys infront of the entrance of the house will see you. Instead turn left at the steps and then right. At the end, keep crouching down and get down to the ground. Turn left and get behind the 1st dude. Take him out with a deathblow. Now use your axe to take out the 2nd guy with shield. Now, you can either take out the guy to the left of Drunkard but I won't advise you to do that because you never know how far away is the Drunkard. I would normally just sprint round this group of 3 and sprint back to the area where I hid behind the rock. And wait for all of them back to normal state.
The next target will be either the guy to the right of the Drunkard (when standing behind the Drunkard) or the one on his left. Then sprint back to hide behind the rock again.
Next, is to take out the last minion and then sprint back to hide behind the rock again.
Next is the Drunkard, finally. Get to the backside of the Drunkard. Pop a red sugar and then approach his back crouching down until the red dot appears. Then take out one of his life. While he is recovering, hit him once or twice if you can then run away. Keep a distance about 4 to 5 sword length from him but facing him. Better still, lock on to him. If he moves forward towards you, back up, with sprint if needed.
Remember, never talk to the blue and white coat samurai. Yes, he will join you and fight them. But remember, the game will reset and you will notice that now, the Drunkard is back to 2 lives instead of one (as you have taken one out). The samurai is slow and deal little damage. He will die pretty quickly and you are back to square one. If you try to get a hit in while the samurai is attacking the Drunkard, you can get hit by accident. Worst, you can die by the samurai's "friendly" attack. I had learnt it the hard way. And if you get the samurai to join you early one. Same thing. He may be able to take out one or two minions. Most of the case, just one. The samurai will die pretty quickly because he cannot defend attacks to his back!!! Just like you facing a group of low ranking minions. But it is up to you if you want to "extra" fun. :)
Anyway, to fight the Drunkard, you don't really need to deflect any of his attacks. You can rely on your thrust attack. Run up to him while he is either drinking from his gourd, or while he is "spitting" the poison to his sword, then hold on to your attack button. This is issue a "thrust" attack command. Then quickly backup (backwark movement with sprint button pressed). In the beginning while starting the fight against the Drunkard, he will drink, spit quite a few time, So you can use this thrust attack tactics. All you need is to time it right. Meaning, you cannot be far away or you will not have enough time to run in for the thrust attack before he finishes up whatever he was doing, I hope I make sense here. This is the reason for popping a red sugar. This will increase your damage by 15%. At the early stage, the effect of the red sugar will only last 30 seconds. So, be warned.
If I remember correctly, you can in total execute at least 6 thrust attacks due to his drinking, spitting. By this time, his health will be down to half. Now, you will use the 2nd tactics to attack him. When he stops performing his drinking and spitting things, he will start run towards you. Just do the same thing, moving backward with sprint. Now, wait for his overhead chop attack. Whenever he does that, there is a window for you to sprint in and do a thrust attack. In order to do that, firstly, you cannot be too far away. Secondly, time it. What I suggest you to do is to count in your mind or out loud, "one thousand and one, one thousand and two, etc" in the same speed everytime. If you say it fast, do it the same everytime when you count. Start to count whenever he starts his overhead attack. Also, count it when you are running up and execute a thrust attack. OK, you may get hit a few times before you get the timing. This is why the way I say before how to take out the minions. You would have totally avoid using any of your healing stuff. Thereby saving all of them for the Drunkard fight.
Of course, if you have the spear prosthetic, that will make it slightly easier. Since you said you have taken out all other bosses, you should have the spear prosthetic in your inventory. Use it instead of executing a thrust attack with your sword. But that will mean that you cannot use shuriken a lot before this fight. Save the spirit emblems for the spear fight against the Drunkard.
Remember not to get the samurai to join you. Save all your healing stuff and spirit emblems for the Drunkard fight if you can. I hope this will help. Good luck and have fun :)

do you really expect me to read all this like what the actual ♥♥♥♥...when did games start to require you to read a whole damn novel just to play them

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

Messaggio originale di name:

i just gave up on the drunk guy...scuffed boss design...now i'm stuck on this purple guy and i've just so nearly had it with this game, every 5 minutes there is some absurdly powerful enemy that the game expects you to spend hours mastering their awkward moveset...wtf kind of game is this? none of this bs was in any of fromsoft's other games

sounds like the game is just not for you.... i dont know what other tipps i should give you exept get rid of the dark souls and eldenring mindset for this game.

[name]

Messaggio originale di Troja:

Messaggio originale di name:

i just gave up on the drunk guy...scuffed boss design...now i'm stuck on this purple guy and i've just so nearly had it with this game, every 5 minutes there is some absurdly powerful enemy that the game expects you to spend hours mastering their awkward moveset...wtf kind of game is this? none of this bs was in any of fromsoft's other games

sounds like the game is just not for you.... i dont know what other tipps i should give you exept get rid of the dark souls and eldenring mindset for this game.

yup you're right i'm done, thanks for trying

[Crypto Gamer]

All fromsoft games are hard.

This is a well known fact.

I likely died around 100 times on my first playtrough.

First of all make sure you have axe and flame vent.

Then Kill the first mandatory horse boss and upgraded your damage.
You can check where you can upgrade your health and estus flask count.

Make sure to do the rat side quest.

And unlock some of the ashina tree passives as they very strong.




Now that said.


You will fight the Drunkard boss 4 times with slightly different variations.(all 4 fights are optional).


First stealth kill all minions if needed break aggro or divide and conquer 1 by 1.

Sekiro is faster than every other enemy and some enemies like archers and shield users are slow while others are faster and can be killed eg.lure them into the house.

Archer can be quickly R1 spammed then flee.

If enemy is in a house go to a corner spot throw a ceramic shard at him and corner stealth kill him.

Can clear most of a house no matter what NG+ cycle what enemy type.


Shield users get axed then killed.



Once every minion is dead or almost all.

Stealth deathblow the boss so 1 health is gone.

Flee to the NPC he auto aggros if enemy goes like 5 meter to him.

So it is 2vs1 againts his last health bar.

If any minion is alive especially shield one kill them fast so NPC can help more.


Throw and oil+flame vent then hit him while he is burning and can not attack back.

Once burn status ends oil+flame vent again.

This along with npc is enough to kill him.

But good idea to learn his moveset.

[BloodStarvedHoonter]

Messaggio originale di Crypto Gamer:

All fromsoft games are hard.

This is a well known fact.

I likely died around 100 times on my first playtrough.

First of all make sure you have axe and flame vent.

Then Kill the first mandatory horse boss and upgraded your damage.
You can check where you can upgrade your health and estus flask count.

Make sure to do the rat side quest.

And unlock some of the ashina tree passives as they very strong.




Now that said.


You will fight the Drunkard boss 4 times with slightly different variations.(all 4 fights are optional).


First stealth kill all minions if needed break aggro or divide and conquer 1 by 1.

Sekiro is faster than every other enemy and some enemies like archers and shield users are slow while others are faster and can be killed eg.lure them into the house.

Archer can be quickly R1 spammed then flee.

If enemy is in a house go to a corner spot throw a ceramic shard at him and corner stealth kill him.

Can clear most of a house no matter what NG+ cycle what enemy type.


Shield users get axed then killed.



Once every minion is dead or almost all.

Stealth deathblow the boss so 1 health is gone.

Flee to the NPC he auto aggros if enemy goes like 5 meter to him.

So it is 2vs1 againts his last health bar.

If any minion is alive especially shield one kill them fast so NPC can help more.


Throw and oil+flame vent then hit him while he is burning and can not attack back.

Once burn status ends oil+flame vent again.

This along with npc is enough to kill him.

But good idea to learn his moveset.

I probably died at least 100 times to Genichiro and the final boss alone. Plus I started playing Sekiro directly after Bloodborne

[Blind0ne]

Just run around and counter attack him omg lol, not even a boss, just a trash mob.

[Tsunero]

He is a patience boss, just wait for him to drink, run in, do 2 hits, run out, repeat. It's more annoying clearing out his goons. lol

[Silyth]

honestly if you cant get his parrys down hes an enemy type you can just run around and attack when he misses his. but like others said, hes not hard, its sounds like you need to just take a walk haha

[VisciousFishes]

You don't need a cheese strat.

What prosthetic tools do you have? Flame vent? Axe? Feather? Firecrackers?

[name]

guys thanks but stop commenting please i'm done with this drunk guy

[Emperor's Champion]

I know you said your done but i would say like 6 months ago I had just beaten ER, DS3 and was gonna do Sekiro and it was an awful mistake. Yes its a from softgame but I was a roller in Souls like games not a parrier. Fast forward I beat DS1 and DS2 came back and it still did not make ANY sense to me. Honestly was worse. (still spamming rolls as my get away ability).

I did a parry only run in ER and it finally kind of clicked for me. I just started playing Sekiro a few days ago and it makes alot more sense to me now and I get the concepts alot better followed by asking the forums for some help on Lady Butterfly and it fixed my brain decay lol.

This game is blocking,jumping,dashing. But I feel like Jumping and blocking are the most useful. But some attacks its just safer to jump and avoid them.

Give it some time and come back its what I did and i'm better for it now. Games fighting is WAY more satisfying and it actually feels like a boss fight and not smashing heavy attack over and over again. I look forward to adding this in my 100% fromsoft games on my profile.

Good luck though!