Just spent an hour trying to kill an ogre

[Dr. Albert Meowsker]

Very fun experience, who doesn't like spending hours upon hours in the same area fighting the same enemy. Because that's why we play games, to waste our time.
Why is dodging so garbage? I'm dodging his ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ attacks and it's like a casino roulette whether he'll grab me or not. Sometimes he puts his hands directly on me and misses and sometimes he somehow grabs me from two meters away.

[Abaddon the Despoiler]

I thought I was bad at the game until I read this.

[Dext.rar]

When an enemy uses a grab jump backwards. That's the most consistent way to avoid the grabs.

If you're this frustrated this early you are approaching the game wrong. Take a step back and chill, watch a video online explaining the mechanics even, then jump back in. I promise you the gameplay will click if you stick with it.

[Squirel_squire]

Maybe try to follow ingthe tips the game gives you?
Literally IN FRONT of the ogre are some soldiers telling about fire vs red eyed enemies.
Hirata -> flame barrel -> easy ogre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2rRcLWH5fk&pp=ygUMc2tpbGwnbyBvZ3Jl

[Adiana de Orlaith]

Few first bosses in this game are meant to be like this. They serve a purpose which is to teach player the game mechanics.
Chained ogre, for example, is to teach :
(1) To dodge GRAB attacks (by jumping or just dodge appropriately), and
(2) To focus on depleting health on easy-to-hit enemy.

Other bosses also will teach you other things like "don't run, deflect" or "try Mikiri Counter this dude" or "deplete their health first, then deplete their posture" etc.

This game is so unique that you need to FACE THE ENEMY and react to their attacks. Since successful deflect also rewards you with posture damage, the enemy big attack also means opportunity.

In my experience, I beat Genichiro on my third tries, but died 67 times on the purple ninja dude, about 9 times at drunk big dude, and about 7 times on this ogre because I'm bad at dodging.

I am currently playing this game and just beat the corrupted monk. Died 11 times, but very satisfying fight.

Good Luck!

[HRHV87]

If you are getting grabbed then you are doing it wrong. If you are standing right infront of it when it lunges forward, you are f'd. Even if do a pixel perfect dodge you'll get vacummed into its hands.

When you fight one in the open you have to constantly fight to position yourself to its sides. The damn thing turns around quickly so you have to dodge dodge dodge into its sides until it makes a move, take a swing or two while it recovers then resume moving into a side position. Once you get comfortable enough doing that you can punish its moves with charged attacks to stagger it.

You can also use oil urns + flame vent to stun it to give yourself even more leeway.

[It from Bit]

He is easy af when playing without lock-on.

[nam hai pham]

Originally posted by Abaddon the Despoiler:

I thought I was bad at the game until I read this.

for real me too

[Rilgar55]

Is easier to dodge his grabs by jumping

[Báleygr]

Insanity, is trying the same thing over and over expecting the results to change. A good thing to note is that the there are only 6 Invincibility Frames in the Sekiro dodge. which in terms of seconds, if you run the game at 60 fps means you have 100 milliseconds or .1 seconds of invincibility. tips for the ogre include using the jump to avoid the grab attacks and proper spacing and circling to avoid the dropkicks, also deflecting is of course effective too (yes you can deflect every move the ogre throws except the unblockable ones ofc). since your just starting out my best piece of advice to learn to deflect, the timing is way more forgiving than the dodge, plus practically everything in this game can be deflected. once you master deflecting you'll feel amazing, and the fear of fighting anything goes away. hopefully this helps and gets you to keep on trying, you got this!

[⛧NecromancerBree⛧]

howdy friend, the faster you learn this the better.
PARRY EVERYTHING THAT ISNT RED. Now you have won the game

[Brakxel]

I expect OP might be dodging too soon and in the wrong direction. If you dodge backward on his leaping grab, he has a good range. Dodge a little later and to the side. The hard part is positioning. Don't face him when he's above you on the stairs. Always be above him on the stairs and away from the cliff. His attack hit box seems to go into the ground from that position. You can grapple to the tree and heal safely. He will walk under you. Jump to the top of the stairs and try again.
Also, try to beat without resurrecting. If things go pear shaped and you resurrect the first time, just nope out of there and rest at the shrine to reset. Don't keep fighting and dying. The shrine is close. The trash mobs are easy to kill to get back to him. Do this and there is no penalty other than resetting, but dying cost you gold/xp/dragonrot and frustration.
Really, do this with all mini-bosses. They are skill gate keepers. Most mini-bosses give you a way to escape. Bosses don't. If you can't beat mini-bosses without dying, the game is telling you to try something different until can. There is a skill you haven't developed yet, and you WILL need that skill later. So reset and learn.

[Bill Waggoner]

Originally posted by Dr. Albert Wesker:

Very fun experience, who doesn't like spending hours upon hours in the same area fighting the same enemy. Because that's why we play games, to waste our time.
Why is dodging so garbage? I'm dodging his ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ attacks and it's like a casino roulette whether he'll grab me or not. Sometimes he puts his hands directly on me and misses and sometimes he somehow grabs me from two meters away.

DarkSydePhil vibes.

[Xenos]

yeah tbh Chained Ogre is a "skill check" that is placed wall too early to be kind to a first time player. The game has spent all of its time up to that point trying to drill into your head you need to be using stealth and deflections, just to FORCE you into a situation where you can't use stealth and can't deflect very well. He's the first major "grappler" in the game, and they never really tell you that JUMPING is by far the best way to avoid being grapped, with a few key exceptions (Emma the Gentle Jiu-Jitsu Master being an example), they just tell you that you can't block or deflect a grab.

I got my butt ROCKED by him my first playthrough too. He killed me more times on my first playthrough than the total times Sword Saint Isshin has actually ever killed me lol

[pirate crab!]

try doing camera unlock. makes it easier to dodge around him.

also easier to do on a controller cuz u kinda dodge in a circle around him rather than just left or right (although w cam unlocked anyways, ur dodges should be in the clear)

[RoughMountain]

A lot of fights in this game are like this. You're severely impotent, and lacking of means. The main message of the game is that, although being in this position, one can find the rhythm of the fight to succeed. If one is not up to this ascetism, better put the game aside.

You can try three tactics, and see if they fit the fight. For all of them you have to memorize enemies rhythm of strike, defense and movement. If you have:

1. Superior attack: Attack and deflect relentlessly > Break Posture > Kill.
2. Superior defense, inferior attack: Deflect > Attack on heavy attacks opportunities > Chip away enemies life > Until Break Posture > Kill.
3. Superior breath, inferior defense, inferior attack: Attack/Deflect > Jump/Run away to regain posture/position > Chip away enemies life/posture > Until Break Posture > Kill.