Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice

Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice

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What is the purpose of unseen aid?
This is my first time playing Sekiro. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or what, but I don't see any use for it. Same with resurrection.
You enter an area, there are 5-10 normal guys that you can kill, and then a boss. The boss will one-hit kill you every time. The only way to beat a boss is to beat him flawlessly. If you don't beat him flawlessly you are dead. You are probably going to die 20-30 times before you get the exact timing and know his moves well enough to predict them. Everything you collect will be lost a long time ago.
You could use resurrection the first time you die, but after that it has no benefit. And you are pretty much guaranteed to die 10+ times on every "boss". So it seems to me pretty much every item in the game is pointless to pick up, resurrection is useless, unseen aid does nothing, and even the checkpoints have very limited usefulness. Why do I need 3 checkpoints in one small area if i'm just going to easily run through it all to the next gate, just to get one-shotted 35 times by the last guy? Just put one checkpoint near that guy so I can spam respawn until I rage quit or beat him.
And what is with the items, gold coins and crap? It's pretty much impossible to hold onto them for very long. You collect 100 or so and then get one-hit killed a few dozen times and lose it all. You pick up these health potion things, and then get one-hit killed over and over. What good is a health refill that you can never use?
Why even have items, checkpoints, resurrection, and unseen aid whatever that is? As far as I can tell you have to play through the game pretty much entirely the way you started, with no items, no health, no potions, nothing but your sword. So just leave it at that and make that the game. What's the point of adding all this other crap that doesn't do anything or can't ever be used when it might be helpful?
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arthur Mar 25, 2023 @ 7:54pm 
you gonna get when you get to a boss you gonna use
Last edited by arthur; Mar 25, 2023 @ 7:54pm
Master Baiter Mar 25, 2023 @ 8:04pm 
Originally posted by Arthur:
you gonna get when you get to a boss you gonna use
Doesn't make any sense.
Cpt.P1mp Mar 26, 2023 @ 10:32am 
Unseen aid deffinetly seems more usefull for players that arent 'too bad' at the game.
I can get through a few sections and gather a lot of money/skill points. Unseen aid can truly save me from a bad decision of pushing forward and just make me TP back to a shop to use my stuff.
Also as a money saver, try to use vendors and buy the money bags all the time. Cuz u dont lose those on death.
Master Baiter Mar 26, 2023 @ 11:09am 
Originally posted by Cpt.P1mp:
Unseen aid deffinetly seems more usefull for players that arent 'too bad' at the game.
I can get through a few sections and gather a lot of money/skill points. Unseen aid can truly save me from a bad decision of pushing forward and just make me TP back to a shop to use my stuff.
Also as a money saver, try to use vendors and buy the money bags all the time. Cuz u dont lose those on death.
I have never even seen a shop.
Cpt.P1mp Mar 26, 2023 @ 12:02pm 
You got 3 within the first 5h of the game.(depends on how far u get in5h)
1-by ashina outskirts, by a gate. u buy info from him, revisit and he will build a shop with the $ u gave him.

2-one is in the dream/past, by a river.

3-is after you defeat the first major boss(horse guy).
Master Baiter Mar 26, 2023 @ 12:13pm 
1: No options to buy anything from him.
2: He tried to kill me.
3: Not there yet.
Doesn't matter anyway, unless you can buy a bigger health meter the main problem is still the same. Any boss or miniboss can easily one-hit kill me, causing me to instantly lose everything I have collected at the end of each zone. So either I need more health, or some kind of armor, and a much more powerful weapon, or no shops will ever be useful at all.
VisciousFishes Mar 26, 2023 @ 4:21pm 
What shinobi tools have you picked up and fitted to your prosthetic arm?
Master Baiter Mar 26, 2023 @ 8:25pm 
Originally posted by jakethebusker:
What shinobi tools have you picked up and fitted to your prosthetic arm?
loaded shuriken
Aom Mar 26, 2023 @ 8:42pm 
when you die you lose half exp. and half your current money. You also can incur dragonrot, which prevents quest progression for certain npcs.

Don't die with exp or money. when you might die to a boss or miniboss, get a full skill pt and stockpile items or spirit emblems before dying.

dragonrot can be cured after defeating first boss, a merchant will sell you unlimited (single) dragon blood droplet.
Master Baiter Mar 27, 2023 @ 12:06am 
Originally posted by Aom:
when you die you lose half exp. and half your current money. You also can incur dragonrot, which prevents quest progression for certain npcs.

Don't die with exp or money. when you might die to a boss or miniboss, get a full skill pt and stockpile items or spirit emblems before dying.

dragonrot can be cured after defeating first boss, a merchant will sell you unlimited (single) dragon blood droplet.
I have one skill point, but it requires 4 to level up and I don't see any way to get any more.
There is no place to store items, and no merchants or anyone to buy anything from.
I'm pretty sure I have all the dragonrots. I stopped caring about those since the only negative effect the game tells me is that it prevents me from receiving unseen aid, which doesn't do anything anyway.
laaketeknikko Mar 27, 2023 @ 12:57am 
Originally posted by Canadian Snow Toad:
I have one skill point, but it requires 4 to level up and I don't see any way to get any more.
There is no place to store items, and no merchants or anyone to buy anything from.
I'm pretty sure I have all the dragonrots. I stopped caring about those since the only negative effect the game tells me is that it prevents me from receiving unseen aid, which doesn't do anything anyway.

You can literally reach two shops in one minute of sprinting from the beginning of the game. Without having to defeat a single enemy or a single miniboss. Both are before the Chained Ogre.

It's clear you're just frustrated, as everything you say is simply untrue. I would advice you practise the first area enemies until you get it. There is frankly no point continuing with that attitude, as only a whole another level of frustration is going to await you.

I use healing in every boss, my items are automatically stored, I gain skill points with experience.. I'm pretty sure my game works exactly like yours. There isn't a single boss that will one-shot you, unless you just bypass all the minibosses and don't want more health.
BradDandy Mar 27, 2023 @ 1:00am 
It seems like maybe this kind of game isn't for you? Rarely does anyone play this game without dying to the bosses 10+ times before the defeat them, the game is designed to be challenging.

BUT, if you want to give yourself a leg up (it'll take a little bit of time), once you reach a boss you're having a hard time with, just use the idol to travel back to the start of whatever path you're on and everything should have respawned. You can repeat this process to farm up gold and xp from the trash mobs, and occasional items will drop.

This is my first souls-like game, and the only items I have found a use for so far have been the gourd (obvi), the pellets, and the ash (I use the ash when my posture starts to max to buy me a bit of time to recover it). I kinda figure the other items are for those who are better, as guys like myself would be wasting sugars because they don't last long and idk when I should be using them, so I just don't. You don't need them anyway, tbh.

Basically, the only way to defeat any one boss is to accept that you'll die a lot. Make your first few deaths useful: instead of trying to win the first fight, try to dodge and weave and avoid so you can see what the boss does, survive as long as possible to get as much info as possible and then go from there. And as far as loosing what you're picking up: the gold you're collecting before the 1st merchant becomes available is negligible, it's really nothing compared to what you'll be getting later. You can get it back very easily, so I wouldn't stress too much about losing anything at the beginning.

Hope what I've offered helps!
Master Baiter Mar 27, 2023 @ 1:18am 
Farming up items and xp sounds like a great idea, except for the fact that there is no way to use it and as soon as you go to the boss you lose everything. It's basically an automatic game mechanic that when you go to the boss you lose everything, so it makes any kind of farming or item collecting pointless. Right now im sitting on like 900 gold just from running around the same area repeatedly looking for any possible thing i might be able to use it on, because I know that there is a boss at the gate and im going to loss everything as soon as I go there. But no matter how many enemies I kill I never gain stats in any way. I guess i'm getting xp but as far as I can tell it doesn't do anything. I still have the same tiny ass hp meter so I know im getting one shot killed as soon as I go there. It's like all the xp, coins, and items are really just to troll you because you can never use it.
Alexoferith Mar 27, 2023 @ 7:50am 
I think the notion of unseen aid can cause quite a big debate and cultural difference is probably the base of the argument.
Trichouette Mar 27, 2023 @ 9:09am 
Originally posted by Canadian Snow Toad:
Farming up items and xp sounds like a great idea, except for the fact that there is no way to use it and as soon as you go to the boss you lose everything. It's basically an automatic game mechanic that when you go to the boss you lose everything, so it makes any kind of farming or item collecting pointless. Right now im sitting on like 900 gold just from running around the same area repeatedly looking for any possible thing i might be able to use it on, because I know that there is a boss at the gate and im going to loss everything as soon as I go there. But no matter how many enemies I kill I never gain stats in any way. I guess i'm getting xp but as far as I can tell it doesn't do anything. I still have the same tiny ass hp meter so I know im getting one shot killed as soon as I go there. It's like all the xp, coins, and items are really just to troll you because you can never use it.
Farming experience points can be useful if you want a specific ability.
Farming money is pretty useless early in the game.

You don't get stat increase with money/exp, but by defeating mini-bosses & bosses.
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Date Posted: Mar 25, 2023 @ 6:54pm
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