Intro Movie? Spoilers

[FreshRevenge]

What I find bizarre about the intro to Wolfs character, is how his foster father Owl finds him and basically slices his face and then Wolf grabs onto the sword causing more bleeding. Sorry but is this normal in Japan in that era? Or is FromSoftware being edgy?

Also what is this Iron Code? As far as I can tell there is two rules. Protect the Divine Heir and follow the will of the father.

I mean if FromSoftware wanted to tell a story with Wolf or Sekiro, they could have elaborated on his backstory instead of being a servant to a boy. And why does Sekiro have amnesia at the start of the game? Obviously the memory of Hirata Estates elaborates what happens .

I mean it would explain why Sekiro questions things like dragon rot and dragon heritage. You would think he would know all this stuff beforehand.

Also why does Kuro insist using the secret passage that the whole clan of Ashina knows about? I mean you can eavesdrop on two guards talking about it. I mean it doesn't look like a secret passage to me. "um you know about the secret right over there?" "yeah what about it?" "well we need to guard it with our lives" "you know because it's a secret passage and someone might want to use it"

Also the bridge is broken, so how would they manage to escape? I mean Kuro didn't see the bridge broken? Were they going to float to the other side?

Sorry the more I play it, the more plotholes and questions arises from my observations,

[Sanzas]

Just hopping by to answer that small part:

Originally posted by thefreshrevengehaven:

Also what is this Iron Code? As far as I can tell there is two rules. Protect the Divine Heir and follow the will of the father.

The Iron code is, if i recall correctly, to follow the orders of their master. The order from Owl *then* is to protect the divine heir. If one breaks the rule, or their Master dies or something, and one is with no master, then they are called Rōnin (a Samurai with no master).

[FreshRevenge]

Originally posted by Sanzas:

Just hopping by to answer that small part:

Originally posted by thefreshrevengehaven:

Also what is this Iron Code? As far as I can tell there is two rules. Protect the Divine Heir and follow the will of the father.

The Iron code is, if i recall correctly, to follow the orders of their master. The order from Owl *then* is to protect the divine heir. If one breaks the rule, or their Master dies or something, and one is with no master, then they are called Rōnin (a Samurai with no master).

But you are a shinobi, not a samurai.

[Sanzas]

Originally posted by thefreshrevengehaven:

Originally posted by Sanzas:

Just hopping by to answer that small part:



The Iron code is, if i recall correctly, to follow the orders of their master. The order from Owl *then* is to protect the divine heir. If one breaks the rule, or their Master dies or something, and one is with no master, then they are called Rōnin (a Samurai with no master).

But you are a shinobi, not a samurai.

Whoops. You're right. There goes my answer

[vXViper]

To me it's about showing that wolfs character does not fear anything anymore and that he is like a blanket of no emotion to form and mold by Owl with that scene.

[vXViper]

tip to OP a story in most fromsoft games is not cut and dry spelled out to you in ingame movies or stuff, it's usually hidden by lore etc , maybe you allready know this but thats what I would defend the plotholes with. Tho I could agree on even if they escaped im not sure how they would with the bridge beeing broken.

[Goblin]

The only thing that really bugged me is wolf holding the sword. You wouldn't bleed unless if it moved. (Don't try this at home)

[108saimon]

Originally posted by Hooty:

The only thing that really bugged me is wolf holding the sword. You wouldn't bleed unless if it moved. (Don't try this at home)

Or if you very strong collapse it with your hand.

[隻狼]

To me this resembled that Sekiro (defeated man on the battle field, by the time owl meets him)
Had two choices:

a) Join Owl
b) or dont join Owl and die right then and there.

The cut on his face made it clear that it is he that dictates the rules.

The Iron Code is the following:
Parents first, then the master as a close second.
That means when Owl commands to forfeit his master thats the Iron Code.
If he says to protect his master, thats the Iron Code.
Whatever he says is law.

[Krono]

Originally posted by thefreshrevengehaven:

But you are a shinobi, not a samurai.

It would make you a rogue Shinobi, like Sculptor/Orangutan was in the past.

Originally posted by thefreshrevengehaven:

What I find bizarre about the intro to Wolfs character, is how his foster father Owl finds him and basically slices his face and then Wolf grabs onto the sword causing more bleeding. Sorry but is this normal in Japan in that era? Or is FromSoftware being edgy?

The way I saw it, Owl liked his guts, so he decided to raise this "starving wolf pup".

Originally posted by thefreshrevengehaven:

Also what is this Iron Code? As far as I can tell there is two rules. Protect the Divine Heir and follow the will of the father.

Rule one is to follow the will of the father. The father's orders are absolute.

Rule two is to follow the will of the master. The only authority above the master is the father.

That's all

Originally posted by thefreshrevengehaven:

I mean if FromSoftware wanted to tell a story with Wolf or Sekiro, they could have elaborated on his backstory instead of being a servant to a boy. And why does Sekiro have amnesia at the start of the game? Obviously the memory of Hirata Estates elaborates what happens .

I mean it would explain why Sekiro questions things like dragon rot and dragon heritage. You would think he would know all this stuff beforehand.

Answered your own question

Originally posted by thefreshrevengehaven:

Also why does Kuro insist using the secret passage that the whole clan of Ashina knows about? I mean you can eavesdrop on two guards talking about it. I mean it doesn't look like a secret passage to me. "um you know about the secret right over there?" "yeah what about it?" "well we need to guard it with our lives" "you know because it's a secret passage and someone might want to use it"

Kuro's a kid, he might think the passage is more secret than it actually is. Alternatively, the passage is something that Ashina people know about but not outsiders maybe. For Kuro, it would be better to leave through the passage (after Wolf/Sekiro clears it out) and leave Ashina immediately than it would be to try to get through the entirety of Ashina castle and the Ashina Outskirts.

Originally posted by thefreshrevengehaven:

Also the bridge is broken, so how would they manage to escape? I mean Kuro didn't see the bridge broken? Were they going to float to the other side?

Kuro probably didn't even see the broken bridge. When you get there in the intro, you fight Genichiro while Kuro is immediately knocked out and captured by one of the Nightjar Shinobi

This is all how I interpreted everything