Carp Scales

[Sketchazoid]

So I've come across the area where the hidden merchant is and he requires scales. However, I messed up on two of the fish and though I can lock onto them I can't attack them since they're too deep. I read somewhere using ash at the water's edge can lure them, but after 12 wasted ash I can confirm, at least on my end, that this doesn't work at all. One swam close to shore, next to the merchant, and I jumped on top of it and spammed the attack button, but nothing. Tried several times. Nothing. On a YouTube video in the comments someone said something about "don't tempt this until you unlock the ability to dive". I didn't even know that was a thing. That or that guy was talking out of his rear end. Anyone got some suggestions? I tried restarting the game, but the same fish don't come to the surface. Shurikens do barely any damage to them. So that didn't work either.

[SFCrumpet]

I sat crouched and waited for them to resurface, managed to get one by doing a swim dash then attacking, the other I jumped off the bridge and mashed attack as soon as I landed in the water. Maybe I just got lucky, but I'm hoping the burn cure gourd comes in handy.

[Sketchazoid]

Originally posted by Khosatral:

I sat crouched and waited for them to resurface, managed to get one by doing a swim dash then attacking, the other I jumped off the bridge and mashed attack as soon as I landed in the water. Maybe I just got lucky, but I'm hoping the burn cure gourd comes in handy.

Are there more carp throughout the game, or are these the only ones? If there is more, I may just move on. I have sat here for an hour doing what you've said. I get one to the edge, and though I am pressed up against him spamming RB it doesn't register. Maybe my game is bugged. Maybe I am trash. The latter is very plausible. haha

[randir14]

There's more later in that level, I don't know about the rest of the game though.

[Sketchazoid]

Originally posted by randir14:

There's more later in that level, I don't know about the rest of the game though.

I wonder if there is going to be enough to purchase at least the 3 main items. The red gourd, mask fragment, and the floating passage text which allows for a new move. I was able to get one of the fish, and I have just one fish left that is being a booger. Hoping if I need to skip it won't screw me over.

[4rni]

I fear that the amount of carps is limited, regardless if they get killed or run away. Because mine stopped appearing even though the last managed to ran away.
... I will continue the "carp experiments" tomorrow :|

[TheWarden]

NG+

[NoOne]

'B' on Xbone controller makes you 'dash' swim. The fish are easy, met 3, killed all of 'em. Just as easy as crystal lizards.

[Sketchazoid]

Originally posted by SpacialKatana:

'B' on Xbone controller makes you 'dash' swim. The fish are easy, met 3, killed all of 'em. Just as easy as crystal lizards.

They are easy to kill, but I got to this area late last night. So in the midst of me being half way awake, I spammed the wrong button, and fish got away. Now it circles around the merchant, but even when it comes into few, when I attack it doesn't seem to register. I have 4 scales so far, including the one found on shore. How many in total in this area is there again? Anyone know?

[Sketchazoid]

Originally posted by TheWarden:

NG+

Is NG+ a thing in this game? I never even considered it. If so, hopefully they pull a Dark Souls 2 and add some surprises in.

[King in Yellow]

Originally posted by Sketchazoid:

Originally posted by SpacialKatana:

'B' on Xbone controller makes you 'dash' swim. The fish are easy, met 3, killed all of 'em. Just as easy as crystal lizards.

They are easy to kill, but I got to this area late last night. So in the midst of me being half way awake, I spammed the wrong button, and fish got away. Now it circles around the merchant, but even when it comes into few, when I attack it doesn't seem to register. I have 4 scales so far, including the one found on shore. How many in total in this area is there again? Anyone know?

I only managed to get 4 scales from that first area, after that they stopped respawning. A little further down the level I found a 5th carp. Still not sure whether to buy that technique or wait for the mask...

[FallenOverHere]

Yeah so there are 5 total in the beginning bridge/river area. 4 being fish and one on land. The one on land is far left from spawn and the beginning of the bridge behind a big rock. The first fish is immediately under the bridge once you start crossing it. The other 3 are by the pot vendor.
I haven't finished Hirata Estate, but I find another carp, in another river if you continue passed the shortcut and up the stairs to the left. You should be able to jump off the bridge. It's all the way up the river.

I noticed a few things. I believe there are a set amount in the game, however, if you miss and fail it WILL respawn near the same general area. You just have to wait, swim around and spamming R3 to lock on to it and find its location.
You have to kill them when they come to the surface otherwise you'll hit nothing and they'll swim away.

My issue is, sometimes they dont come up. I've tried everything to lure them up. All prosthetic tools, fish full of ash, ceramic shard, etc. Anyone know how to lure them up? I've been writing whole thing while waiting for it to come up and it hasn't moved an inch. Fml

[Sketchazoid]

Originally posted by Crowe:

Yeah so there are 5 total in the beginning bridge/river area. 4 being fish and one on land. The one on land is far left from spawn and the beginning of the bridge behind a big rock. The first fish is immediately under the bridge once you start crossing it. The other 3 are by the pot vendor.
I haven't finished Hirata Estate, but I find another carp, in another river if you continue passed the shortcut and up the stairs to the left. You should be able to jump off the bridge. It's all the way up the river.

I noticed a few things. I believe there are a set amount in the game, however, if you miss and fail it WILL respawn near the same general area. You just have to wait, swim around and spamming R3 to lock on to it and find its location.
You have to kill them when they come to the surface otherwise you'll hit nothing and they'll swim away.

My issue is, sometimes they dont come up. I've tried everything to lure them up. All prosthetic tools, fish full of ash, ceramic shard, etc. Anyone know how to lure them up? I've been writing whole thing while waiting for it to come up and it hasn't moved an inch. Fml

Yeah that's my problem. There is ONE fish left near the pot merchant that just doesn't want to surface. I can see him swimming, can even lock on, but as soon as I think it's close enough to the surface and I attack I still fail. I have tried dozens of times. However I was able to get at least 5 scales and I purchased the Floating Passage Text (I think that's what it's called). Cool moveset.

[Jackal]

Yeah so I have one more fish swimming at the merchant, can't seem to get my attacks to register.

EDIT: Just got really lucky on the difficult fish to hit. He was very close swimming right beside the pot guy, i threw a shuriken, it registered a hit and i immediately jumped on top and swung, it killed it and i got the last one in the area, I think.

[Sketchazoid]

Originally posted by Sage:

Yeah so I have one more fish swimming at the merchant, can't seem to get my attacks to register.

EDIT: Just got really lucky on the difficult fish to hit. He was very close swimming right beside the pot guy, i threw a shuriken, it registered a hit and i immediately jumped on top and swung, it killed it and i got the last one in the area, I think.

Yeah I might give it a go. Doesn't matter though. I bought what I wanted from the merchant. Wonder if scales carry to NG+.

[Adamantoise]

I got to a level a bit later with two carp in a pond, and wouldnt be surprised if theres more later. No way from software would put all that cool looking stuff behind carp scales and not place enough in the game.