Ghost of Tsushima vs. Sekiro - Combat

[ChrisPharmD]

After playing Sekiro, the combat in Ghost of Tsushima looks awful. It almost looks turn based, IMO.

I've attached a Youtube video from Playstation for those who haven't seen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSAvzeopPC8

[Joel]

Slower combat/more time to make decisions to make more accessible? Different design philosophy and intent? Even with the grappling and stealth kill from above this guy seems more like a Samurai than Shinobi, so that would play a part I'd imagine (although I don't claim to be an expert or to know much at all beyond 'i ply'd sekro a cpl tims').

I don't think it looks like a bad game, but I'd be playing it for slightly different reasons than Sekiro. I'm not entirely sure its fair to compare them.

[AGH!Bear]

We'll see. Sucker Punch's other games are very easy.

Keep in mind this is an early portion of the game, maybe a tutorial sort of segment. I don't expect it to be a Soulslike level of difficulty but it might be surprising.

Will probably at least be a rewarding game to play (too bad it's PS4 only)

[his1roguenation]

Tsushima looks like Way of the Samurai with less styles, which means it will be 5 quadragintillion times better than Sekiro.

[vXViper]

It looks diffrent from Sekiro for sure, BUT I think this would also be fun to play in a diffrent kind of way.

[Uugly]

Ghost is more like a game that never going to happen. We haven't see any new trailer and it been a year already. Beside look at the graphic and the promise of an open world. It going to get downgrade.

[Joel]

Originally posted by his1roguenation:

Tsushima looks like Way of the Samurai with less styles, which means it will be 5 quadragintillion times better than Sekiro.

Yeah, was going to mention Way of the Samurai but they seemed more about a random dude appearing while influencing the 'story'.

Again, I don't think comparing the two games is fair. Sekiro is a tailored experience while Way of the Samurai was more of a 'choose your own adventure' style of game. Hopefully Ghosts has a bit more structure but if the game is 'open world' as someone mentioned above then I'm probably going to take a pass.

[Ringlet]

Since it's an open-world game, I feel like Ghost of Tsushima's combat might turns out, more or less, to be another Batman Arkham. Gosh, I hope I am wrong.

[Xengre]

It looks like Way of the Samurai kinda. If that is any indication then some things to consider:

Way of the Samurai combat from enemies and yourself were heavily based on weapons/skills so the pacing/aggression level could change drastically depending on what each party is using.

This doesn't really show any group fights, either, which could get crazy and it doesn't show any particularly elite/crazy fighters like Lady Butterfly/Owl which we can expect to possibly be another ball game entirely.

There may be more complexities as well like pulling your enemy off balance, upper and lower hits/guards/evasions, etc. I get the feeling the gameplay very lightly touched on the actual experience (honestly, prob a bad idea on their end but the may have still been too deep and early into development at the time).

[viktorhallo]

hopefully that ghost game is like sekiro, brutal samurai combat. i have high hopes for that one. hopefullly you actually feel like a strong samurai who gonna play hard and smart to win. not some overpowered samurai in a easy game that stomps all.

[ChrisPharmD]

Originally posted by viktorhallo:

hopefully that ghost game is like sekiro, brutal samurai combat. i have high hopes for that one. hopefullly you actually feel like a strong samurai who gonna play hard and smart to win. not some overpowered samurai in a easy game that stomps all.

I was under the impression that the combat was like Assassin's Creed. *shrugs*

[Go4Pro]

wasnt ghost of tsushima cancelled

[隻狼]

Originally posted by Go4Pro:

wasnt ghost of tsushima cancelled

April Fools Joke

But what i have seen from Ghost doesent impress me.

[EpicD1CK]

Game looks way too easy from looking at the first fight.

First of all enemies doesn't even bother to block or parry and just take the hits. At the very least from Sekiro, you can always expect the lowest goons to block at least one of your attacks.

Secondly, the ai is obviously scripted in group battles where they will only engage you one at a time like in the AC series. I fcking hate games that does that tbh. In sekiro fighting a group battle will get you pummeled if you don't position yourself well as enemies clearly doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about having a honorable fights.

Thirdly the arkham style of fear takedowns they showed at the middle portion just looks so copy and paste. Sure it isn't any better in Sekiro with the blood mist, but at least there in that system depending on how the enemy positions themself you can get only 2 of them in a group or even 4 of them in the group depending on how fast you are. In the system they show in the video it just looks so static where it's probably gonna be like the arkham series where you can only takedown so many people in a group not to mention it's basically free kill without any thought to it whereas is Sekiro you need to consider your spirit emblems.

[隻狼]

Originally posted by EpicD1CK:

Game looks way too easy from looking at the first fight.

First of all enemies doesn't even bother to block or parry and just take the hits. At the very least from Sekiro, you can always expect the lowest goons to block at least one of your attacks.

Secondly, the ai is obviously scripted in group battles where they will only engage you one at a time like in the AC series. I fcking hate games that does that tbh. In sekiro fighting a group battle will get you pummeled if you don't position yourself well as enemies clearly doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about having a honorable fights.

Thirdly the arkham style of fear takedowns they showed at the middle portion just looks so copy and paste. Sure it isn't any better in Sekiro with the blood mist, but at least there in that system depending on how the enemy positions themself you can get only 2 of them in a group or even 4 of them in the group depending on how fast you are. In the system they show in the video it just looks so static where it's probably gonna be like the arkham series where you can only takedown so many people in a group not to mention it's basically free kill without any thought to it whereas is Sekiro you need to consider your spirit emblems.

Lets be real here.
Ghost will not topple Sekiro in terms of combat.
It has other strengths, such as beautiful graphics, open world, etc,..
Combat will not be one of them.

[ChrisPharmD]

Originally posted by 隻狼:

Originally posted by EpicD1CK:

Game looks way too easy from looking at the first fight.

First of all enemies doesn't even bother to block or parry and just take the hits. At the very least from Sekiro, you can always expect the lowest goons to block at least one of your attacks.

Secondly, the ai is obviously scripted in group battles where they will only engage you one at a time like in the AC series. I fcking hate games that does that tbh. In sekiro fighting a group battle will get you pummeled if you don't position yourself well as enemies clearly doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about having a honorable fights.

Thirdly the arkham style of fear takedowns they showed at the middle portion just looks so copy and paste. Sure it isn't any better in Sekiro with the blood mist, but at least there in that system depending on how the enemy positions themself you can get only 2 of them in a group or even 4 of them in the group depending on how fast you are. In the system they show in the video it just looks so static where it's probably gonna be like the arkham series where you can only takedown so many people in a group not to mention it's basically free kill without any thought to it whereas is Sekiro you need to consider your spirit emblems.

Lets be real here.
Ghost will not topple Sekiro in terms of combat.
It has other strengths, such as beautiful graphics, open world, etc,..
Combat will not be one of them.

I think the point is that Ubisoft has had the same crap formula for combat since 2006. A horde of enemies will ambush you and you get to fight one-by-one with flashy moves that ultimately mean nothing.

Like I said, it's pretty much turn based combat.