Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice

Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice

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mr.simpson Mar 29, 2019 @ 4:04pm
I just cant beat Isshin the Sword Saint
I can barely get to the second phase.
Any tips?
Last edited by mr.simpson; Mar 29, 2019 @ 4:29pm
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Evilsod Mar 29, 2019 @ 4:08pm 
Stuck in the same place after about a dozen attempts (several of which were pathetically lost to Genchiro...)

Honestly, I'm trying the 'Git Gud' approach first.

Stab me once in the face with a thrust attack because I try to jump it, shame on you, twice, shame on me, after the 20th time I need to stop being a complete moron and Mikiro counter that ♥♥♥♥!
ProsteCech Mar 29, 2019 @ 4:09pm 
Use the umbrella if you font feel comfortable blocking his wind? attacks also you need to be on him 24/7 don't let him regen his posture and like the only safe time to heal is when he slams his spear straight down ... hang in there 4th phase is easy
ProsteCech Mar 29, 2019 @ 4:12pm 
And for me he mostly did the thrust in 3rd stage so like 75% of the time just mikiri him
mr.simpson Mar 29, 2019 @ 4:12pm 
Originally posted by Alice-senpai:
Use the umbrella if you font feel comfortable blocking his wind? attacks also you need to be on him 24/7 don't let him regen his posture and like the only safe time to heal is when he slams his spear straight down ... hang in there 4th phase is easy

I personally think his first phase is the hardest he just attacks with his light attacks everytime but I think the umbrella is a good idea
ProsteCech Mar 29, 2019 @ 4:14pm 
Yeah, you can use it for the charge cross attack aswell in the 1st phase
Aeiku Mar 29, 2019 @ 4:15pm 
Learn his animations for deflecting. Attack 2-3 times then parry, shuriken is also very useful for closing the gap when he jumps away to get in close and keep his posture from depleting. When he pulls out his spear use more caution instead of aggression because he's relentless and attacks incredibly fast it's hard to read. I just attack two times during his spear phase to keep the posture from going down then parry until he uses an attack that leaves an opening like his charge abilities. The spin attack one I just jump on his head since it builds posture and dodges the aoe. The wind one requires very good timing of dodging left or right.

Edit: Then the last phase (when he does his lightning nonsense). Reversal his backside until he goes down. Can play it safe if you just focus on trying to reversal, otherwise you can beat him up and reversal which is what I prefer.
Last edited by Aeiku; Mar 29, 2019 @ 4:16pm
Kashra Fall Mar 29, 2019 @ 4:25pm 
Someone yesterday was having similar issues and I more or less walked him through possible ways to overcome the issues.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/814380/discussions/0/1771511442684888737/

That's the thread and hope it helps! Good luck!
mr.simpson Mar 29, 2019 @ 4:28pm 
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
Someone yesterday was having similar issues and I more or less walked him through possible ways to overcome the issues.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/814380/discussions/0/1771511442684888737/

That's the thread and hope it helps! Good luck!

Thanks looking good going to try it tomorrow again!
[OTS]EchoZenLogos Mar 29, 2019 @ 4:36pm 
Originally posted by mr.simpson:
I can barely get to the third phase.
Any tips?

Yeah, here are my tips.

In general, get good at deflecting. The sword phases are relatively easy to deflect attacks from since there are predictable attacks. Use the Mikuri counter as well on the predictable stabs, and jump over the sweeps.

Genishiro: For his mortal blade attack, get behind him and get in some free hits. I suggest circling behind him 180 degrees for his first swing, then another 90 degrees before his second swing, moving clockwise around him. Other than that he is the same as he was earlier in the game, and will die fairly fast as long as you are good with your deflects and counters. Watch out for his sweep, stay on top of him, and you'll do fine.

Isshin Phase 1: He has multiple attacks which are annoying here. Stay on the offensive, deflect his counter-attacks. He has an overhead long-ranged slash which I suggest avoiding by sprinting sideways then doing an additional side-dodge just as he swings to make sure you aren't hit. He has a charge with two fast slashes from a sheathed stance that you can deflect for large posture damage, though it requires some getting used to the timing and you can also run away (that drags out the fight though). He has a stab where he runs to your right first, that one is very predictable to Mikuri counter so watch for it. He has a sweep after a horizontal swing as well front a frontal attack which you may want to watch out for. If you are aggressive during this phase and properly deflect, you can beat him fairly quickly.

Isshin Phase 2: This phase is where the fight truly gets difficult. He starts using his spear, and gets a lot more difficult attacks. He gains a gun as well, which he can fire either single powerful shots from as part of a close-ranged combo, or multiple (5 shots or so) rapid-fire shots. To avoid the spear, you need to stay close to him and keep the pressure on. He has a horizontal swing which has a long range on it (a distance slash), but you can deflect it fairly easily and not take damage (jumping sometimes works, running away can work but if you fail to get out of range it does a lot of damage). He has running slashes and will combo his spear attacks with his sword and gun attacks, so you'll want to keep the pressure on and retreat (watching for his gun and spear charges) to heal when needed.

Isshin Phase 3: This phase is actually easier than Phase 2, except being that it's later into the fight, you'll likely have less healing items and such or be more likely to make mistakes. He has the same attacks as in Phase 2 for the most part, but gains some lightning attacks as well. These however are easily used against him by using lightning return - jump into the air as you are hit then hit the attack button to send the lightning back at him, and you'll do massive damage and stun him. If you return lightning 1-2 times, and hit him while he is stunned, you can get his vitality down significantly.

This fight took me a couple of hours to beat. I used the Shuriken mainly since it let me keep up the pressure with the follow-up dash. I also was playing with the bell active however, which meant his vitality was hard to lower - I had to focus on posture. It's a tough fight for sure, but just play it carefully. Deflecting is your most important skill here!
Raziel Mar 29, 2019 @ 4:53pm 
I can't beat em either. I'm starting to just not care, but I'm ok with it. I'll just youtube the endings and move on with my life lol. 3 lifebars with genchiro first is just too much.
[OTS]EchoZenLogos Mar 29, 2019 @ 6:35pm 
Originally posted by Raziel:
I can't beat em either. I'm starting to just not care, but I'm ok with it. I'll just youtube the endings and move on with my life lol. 3 lifebars with genchiro first is just too much.

He's basically the final boss of the game for a reason. He's a culmination of everything you've learned throughout the game, and beating him feels like the great accomplishment it should be.

Though if you're not having fun, then there's no point in continuing of course. I had a lot of fun finally beating him though once I did.
Aria Athena Mar 29, 2019 @ 6:40pm 
Originally posted by Raziel:
I can't beat em either. I'm starting to just not care, but I'm ok with it. I'll just youtube the endings and move on with my life lol. 3 lifebars with genchiro first is just too much.

I would suggest dodging through Genichiro's mortal blade attacks, while landing 1-2 hits in between.

Also for Isshin's double draw attack during 1st phase, you should look for a flash on the hilt of his sword. That's your queue to double deflect him.
Last edited by Aria Athena; Mar 29, 2019 @ 6:43pm
Jotun Mar 29, 2019 @ 7:27pm 
If you want to keep him in phase 1 slightly longer and get some poison in: use sabimaru as soon as his first HP bar is down. It should give you a slight edge before phase 2 really starts.
Call Sign: Raven Mar 29, 2019 @ 7:44pm 
Take a break from it and come back in a day or two.
Aria Athena Mar 30, 2019 @ 7:48am 
Also for me half the difficulty was the field of flowers or hay. You can lure him towards the broken bridge where there is no vegetation.
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